Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Flash is FASTER than Superman and has better reactions than Superman.. How on earth how this discussion lasted this long?
Even knows and agreed on that part. The continuous argument stems from others believing that yes Superman is faster travel wise than Diana, but not reaction time.
Originally posted by abhilegendWhere in your scan does it states that flash was in attosecond mode when they talked???? You take a scan of flash telling superman what he can perceive and then take another with him talking to superman fast and to you ( and other misleading superman fans ) its a attosecond feat?? REALLY ABHIL???? Also where did that writer state that superman matched flash in attosecond mode?? I just want you to clear this up for me please.
Ah, now its time for pure denial. Out of context scans ran out of stock for you? Tell you what, post a reflex speed like this where she matches Flash in reflexes.Flash is moving at such an insane speed that it looks like he’s actually warping reality – he recreates the town Superman is in to look like Krypton, not only the costumations, but entire buildings and landscapes (imagine that besides building all of those – he actually has to get all the materials from other locations around the world).
Superman tracks him down and proceeds to match his speed and catch him.http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supermanbarrywarping2.jpg
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supermanbarrywarping3.jpg
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supermanbarrywarping4.jpg
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supermanbarrywarping5.jpg
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supermanbarrywarping6.jpg“Always wondered..which of us…was fastest.” (note that this takes place after Flash Rebirth; also note that he says fastest not faster which denotes the fact that Superman considers that they are the two fastest heroes by default).
After stopping at a coffee shop, they have a lengthy conversation for pages in which they even use flashbacks while seemingly time stops around them with Superman again matching Flash’s level of perception/speed.http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supesbarrytimestop1.jpg
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supesbarrytimestop2.jpg
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supesbarrytimestop3.jpg
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supesbarrytimestop4.jpg
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supesbarrytimestop5.jpg
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supesbarrytimestop6.jpgWhat is Flash’s level of perception and speed – well, it’s good you asked because in the same issue, he makes it quite clear.
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/FlashPerception.jpg“I can perceive events that last for less than an attosecond”
And the writer specifically mentioned that he was matching Flash in attoseconds.
Originally posted by SquallX
Lowballed at it's finest. Flash has also run at least that fast a few times and he never leaves the Earth and we don't question it. Yet when Diana does it is wrong.Clark has also been able to talk to Lois when he carries her, and that's never a problem. But Diana does it, is wrong.
Also, Steve was also posses, hence the red eyes.
So please, continue being butthurt. Superman doesn't flies lightspeed with Lois, he'll kill her at that speed.
He was still human, so yeah.
Originally posted by JBL
Where in your scan does it states that flash was in attosecond mode when they talked???? You take a scan of flash telling superman what he can perceive and then take another with him talking to superman fast and to you ( and other misleading superman fans ) its a attosecond feat?? REALLY ABHIL???? Also where did that writer state that superman matched flash in attosecond mode?? I just want you to clear this up for me please.
It's a fair question, to be sure. I wasn't thinking of Superman "activating" his superspeed perceptions, like it was a light switch that could be turned on and off, so much as it was shifting his perceptions to bring superspeed events and sounds into focus. Like the human eye looking at something small and close up and then adjusting when the viewer looks at something large and far away, I think Superman is perceiving all of these things, ALL of the time, and it's just a question of what he chooses to focus on. But I think Superman is also capable of focusing on macro-scale, "normal" speed events at a rate something similar to that in the typical human range, so that he wouldn't spend a subjective eternity between each word in every sentence that Lois says to him. Similarly, he can chose to perceive visual information much like we do, or he can expand his perceptions and see far into the electromagnetic spectrum, or narrow his focus far enough to see individual atoms. But just like he doesn't see Lois as merely a cloud of electrons, neutrons, and protons, he doesn't perceive every second as composed of a huge number of attosecond-scale events--unless he wants to, of course.But that's just one fan's opinion, too!
Best,
Chris Roberson
He doesn't sees time in attosecond units, unless he wants to.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Seems like someone failed in physics. Unless the friend has reaction speed of that level, he would be frozen in time at that speed.And you think Wonder Woman can fly at trillions of times lightspeed? Odd that she could outfly "shard crossing universe in moments" yet didn't even reached orbit while outflying them.
Seems that someone was you.
Google time diation h t t p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation (it's an aspect of Relativity) and you hear how people living on the international space station for a year age 0.007 of a second slower for the speed of their orbit. With only the slow speed of being carried by an orbiting vehicle the astronaughts have a different perspective on time.
In Relativity of simultaneity it talks about how two events occuring at the same time may noth be if observed by somoeon traevling in flight between the two because of their relativistic frame of reference.
Originally posted by vdoxII
Seems that someone was you.
Google time diation h t t p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation (it's an aspect of Relativity) and you hear how people living on the international space station for a year age 0.007 of a second slower for the speed of their orbit. With only the slow speed of being carried by an orbiting vehicle the astronaughts have a different perspective on time.In Relativity of simultaneity it talks about how two events occuring at the same time may noth be if observed by somoeon traevling in flight between the two because of their relativistic frame of reference.
Real world physics has nothing to do with comics😂
Originally posted by vdoxIIOh no! "No you" arguement!!!!!!!!!!!
Seems that someone was you.
Google time diation h t t p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation (it's an aspect of Relativity) and you hear how people living on the international space station for a year age 0.007 of a second slower for the speed of their orbit. With only the slow speed of being carried by an orbiting vehicle the astronaughts have a different perspective on time.Again with this real life science shit? Wow, you're trying so hard.
In Relativity of simultaneity it talks about how two events occuring at the same time may noth be if observed by somoeon traevling in flight between the two because of their relativistic frame of reference.facepalm
Why is it relevant here exactly? You know what, bring a single reference of WW doing something like this.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Ah, now its time for pure denial. Out of context scans ran out of stock for you? Tell you what, post a reflex speed like this where she matches Flash in reflexes.Flash is moving at such an insane speed that it looks like he’s actually warping reality – he recreates the town Superman is in to look like Krypton, not only the costumations, but entire buildings and landscapes (imagine that besides building all of those – he actually has to get all the materials from other locations around the world).
Superman tracks him down and proceeds to match his speed and catch him.http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supermanbarrywarping2.jpg
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supermanbarrywarping3.jpg
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supermanbarrywarping4.jpg
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supermanbarrywarping5.jpg
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supermanbarrywarping6.jpg“Always wondered..which of us…was fastest.” (note that this takes place after Flash Rebirth; also note that he says fastest not faster which denotes the fact that Superman considers that they are the two fastest heroes by default).
After stopping at a coffee shop, they have a lengthy conversation for pages in which they even use flashbacks while seemingly time stops around them with Superman again matching Flash’s level of perception/speed.http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supesbarrytimestop1.jpg
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supesbarrytimestop2.jpg
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supesbarrytimestop3.jpg
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supesbarrytimestop4.jpg
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supesbarrytimestop5.jpg
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supesbarrytimestop6.jpgWhat is Flash’s level of perception and speed – well, it’s good you asked because in the same issue, he makes it quite clear.
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/FlashPerception.jpg“I can perceive events that last for less than an attosecond”
And the writer specifically mentioned that he was matching Flash in attoseconds.
Originally posted by abhilegendSuperman never matched flash reflex speed. He speed up to talk to flash and people were frozen, that's a speed feat. Show superman moving his arms, feet, or any part if his body at speeds over light in combat where he is reacting to multiple light speed objects, fists, light speed energy blasts etc. Superman cannot come close to flash reaction/reflex speed, you show things where flash is allowing him to hang around, it is well noted that flash could make superman look like a fool in any kind of speed if he wants to. WW reflex speed is faster than supermans. I remember you asking me for a gladiators speed feat.... Well, lets take a page from your book.... The fantastic 4 along with thor was increased in speed that faster than light speed starships were frozen, gladiator perceived then from a Vast distance, increased his speed to engage them in combat and hold a conversation with them ( same as superman was talking to flash, but it was light speed starships frozen, not humans ) all while tired as hell. He was operating at that speed and perception for a long time.
Oh no! "No you" arguement!!!!!!!!!!!
Again with this real life science shit? Wow, you're trying so hard.facepalm
Why is it relevant here exactly? You know what, bring a single reference of WW doing something like this.
Superman matching the reflex speed of Flash himself. But wait, that's travel speed, right?
Originally posted by vdoxII
Seems that someone was you.
Google time diation h t t p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation (it's an aspect of Relativity) and you hear how people living on the international space station for a year age 0.007 of a second slower for the speed of their orbit. With only the slow speed of being carried by an orbiting vehicle the astronaughts have a different perspective on time.In Relativity of simultaneity it talks about how two events occuring at the same time MAY noth be if observed by somoeon traevling in flight between the two because of their relativistic frame of reference.
keyword 'may' so its debatable if they can actually view it at the same timeframe..........if the human in the flight is able to think at such speeds...shouldn't there be a LARGE gap in reaction speeds between him and the human at a stationary position??
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Real world physics has nothing to do with comics😂
Spoken like someone who's never read a comic. Of course there is suspension of belief because of powers and how they work. Many comics however refer and reference real world science- Flash prime example.
Not to mention it was Abhi who brought up relativity and claimed someone must have failed science in the first place and vox only showed that he was in error. He should have pace palmed when his arguments can be broken that easily 😆
Originally posted by abhilegendSuperman matching the reflex speed of Flash himself. But wait, that's travel speed, right?
Your third scan proved my point for me. The first time Superman tried to grab the Flash he couldn't react fast enough. It wasn't until he was up to the same travel speed of the Flash that he could, when he was on the same relativistic viewpoint.
Nice work Einstein for proving that the real world science of Relativity applies with your own scans and evidence to counter it.
In future perhaps you shouldn't chastize others for lacking in knowledge on areas of Science you haven't grasped yourself. Also if there is no place for real work science in comics then don't bring it up and you can't be shot with it.
Originally posted by beatboks
Spoken like someone who's never read a comic. Of course there is suspension of belief because of powers and how they work. Many comics however refer and reference real world science- Flash prime example.Not to mention it was Abhi who brought up relativity and claimed someone must have failed science in the first place and vox only showed that he was in error. He should have pace palmed when his arguments can be broken that easily 😆
You clearly have missed the point.
Originally posted by JBL
Superman never matched flash reflex speed. He speed up to talk to flash and people were frozen, that's a speed feat. Show superman moving his arms, feet, or any part if his body at speeds over light in combat where he is reacting to multiple light speed objects, fists, light speed energy blasts etc. Superman cannot come close to flash reaction/reflex speed, you show things where flash is allowing him to hang around, it is well noted that flash could make superman look like a fool in any kind of speed if he wants to. WW reflex speed is faster than supermans. I remember you asking me for a gladiators speed feat.... Well, lets take a page from your book.... The fantastic 4 along with thor was increased in speed that faster than light speed starships were frozen, gladiator perceived then from a Vast distance, increased his speed to engage them in combat and hold a conversation with them ( same as superman was talking to flash, but it was light speed starships frozen, not humans ) all while tired as hell. He was operating at that speed and perception for a long time.
And I have posted those scans several times.
Originally posted by vdoxII
Your third scan proved my point for me. The first time Superman tried to grab the Flash he couldn't react fast enough. It wasn't until he was up to the same travel speed of the Flash that he could, when he was on the same relativistic viewpoint.Nice work Einstein for proving that the real world science of Relativity applies with your own scans and evidence to counter it.
In future perhaps you shouldn't chastize others for lacking in knowledge on areas of Science you haven't grasped yourself. Also if there is no place for real work science in comics then don't bring it up and you can't be shot with it.
