Originally posted by 9jaboy
Point is reflex commands are not increased when you are in a moving object..its like speed of electron or current..I've yet to see feats of wonder woman being faster reflex wise..
...and you probably never will because the WW supporters don't have any proof whatsofriggin' ever.
Now watch some idiot reply to me "reflex speed' is not same thing as "travel speed". LOL. To all of them I say "yeah, no shit you dumb@sses." I know the difference well and Superman is far faster in both and this is based on actual showings between the two characters not on what Batman and Diana stupidly think.
I wonder why its only superman fans trying with all their might to downplay a statement from two characters who know all about superman with one of them knowing FAR more than the other? When a statement is for superman, such as.... you are benching the earths weight or you are the strongest on earth comes from characters you rarely see and know NOTHING about superman, the statements are the ringtones on the superman shaped phone in the house of el. But low and behold, let a statement thats against superman appear in a comic and a call goes out to all with some form of superman symbol on their page and they huddle together to dismiss it as talk... Cherry picking at its best with a large amount of butthurt to boot.
Originally posted by JBL
I wonder why its only superman fans trying with all their might to downplay a statement from two characters who know all about superman with one of them knowing FAR more than the other? When a statement is for superman, such as.... you are benching the earths weight or you are the strongest on earth comes from characters you rarely see and know NOTHING about superman, the statements are the ringtones on the superman shaped phone in the house of el. But low and behold, let a statement thats against superman appear in a comic and a call goes out to all with some form of superman symbol on their page and they huddle together to dismiss it as talk... Cherry picking at its best with a large amount of butthurt to boot.
This coming from the guy that cherry-picks the shit out of things to suit his own arguments.
Please, don't be that transparent.
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As far as the Diana feat goes, it doesn't really matter that Steve was talking to her; comics pull that shit all the time. She was moving pretty ****ing fast, so please, people, move on.
Just don't expect to be able to use that kind of outlier as being indicative of some kind of average.
Originally posted by -Pr-I use facts, i don't cherry pick to suit my arguments.
This coming from the guy that cherry-picks the shit out of things to suit his own arguments.Please, don't be that transparent.
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As far as the Diana feat goes, it doesn't really matter that Steve was talking to her; comics pull that shit all the time. She was moving pretty ****ing fast, so please, people, move on.
Just don't expect to be able to use that kind of outlier as being indicative of some kind of average.
Originally posted by carver9
That ft was good...this ft is freaking amazing.She is slapping heat vision out of the air from a being that had the powers and speed of the entire JLA. That's reflexes.
Yes, Superman vision + Flash speed.
Star426...and you probably never will because the WW supporters don't have any proof whatsofriggin' ever.
Now watch some idiot reply to me "reflex speed' is not same thing as "travel speed". LOL. To all of them I say "yeah, no shit you dumb@sses." I know the difference well and Superman is far faster in both and this is based on actual showings between the two characters not on what Batman and Diana stupidly think.
"You have no proof! Now let me mention in-universe evidence by experts that I'll dismiss just because...."
There's also WW's performance against Zoom, there's WW at the start of Sacrifice blocking rapid-speed heat vision, there's WW getting more hits than vice-versa once they're on the ground facing each other in Sacrifice, there's the Amazo feat above....
Originally posted by JBL
I use facts, i don't cherry pick to suit my arguments.
I don't care who you side with, but at least be honest about it. Hypocrisy and lies don't help anyone.
Originally posted by SquallX
I seriously think this should be close.
It's going to end up that way. Certain people can't behave themselves, and shit gets closed. You would think they would have learned by now how to have a mature discussion, especially seeing as this is an actual subject that can be reasonably debated.
Originally posted by -Pr-And we are supposed to ignore the fact that Steve was reacting to those shards too?
This coming from the guy that cherry-picks the shit out of things to suit his own arguments.Please, don't be that transparent.
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As far as the Diana feat goes, it doesn't really matter that Steve was talking to her; comics pull that shit all the time. She was moving pretty ****ing fast, so please, people, move on.
Just don't expect to be able to use that kind of outlier as being indicative of some kind of average.
Originally posted by abhilegend
And we are supposed to ignore the fact that Steve was reacting to those shards too?
Nope. It just doesn't mean she gets yanked down to his level because you want her to. You shouldn't even be using the feat at all, but people keep doing it.
It's the equivalent of using the Infinite Book feat to prove Superman is stronger. It's pointless, and most of all (not to mention most importantly), unquantifiable.
Originally posted by Q99Heh, the old arguments again? How many times you've repeated those now? Fact is Superman outright stopping professor zoom is vastly better than Diana getting rsgdolled and catching a distracted zoom. Blocking hv had nothing on superman as he is actually done better things while weakened. In sacrifice it had nothing to do with speed and amaxo had his speed stolen by flash. Anything else?
Yes, Superman vision + Flash speed."You have no proof! Now let me mention in-universe evidence by experts that I'll dismiss just because...."
There's also WW's performance against Zoom, there's WW at the start of Sacrifice blocking rapid-speed heat vision, there's WW getting more hits than vice-versa once they're on the ground facing each other in Sacrifice, there's the Amazo feat above....
Originally posted by -Pr-A human didn't help lift that book. The book made it very clear that shattered god was teleporting his shards in, not speeding them. Heck he was collecting those shards for millennia and they were still at the center if universe where he started milllenia earlier.
Nope. It just doesn't mean she gets yanked down to his level because you want her to. You shouldn't even be using the feat at all, but people keep doing it.It's the equivalent of using the Infinite Book feat to prove Superman is stronger. It's pointless, and most of all (not to mention most importantly), unquantifiable.
It's not a feat at all.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Nope. It just doesn't mean she gets yanked down to his level because you want her to. You shouldn't even be using the feat at all, but people keep doing it.It's the equivalent of using the Infinite Book feat to prove Superman is stronger. It's pointless, and most of all (not to mention most importantly), unquantifiable.
PR Albi is the Ruler of the House of El, tread carefully 😄
Originally posted by abhilegend
A human didn't help lift that book. The book made it very clear that shattered god was teleporting his shards in, not speeding them. Heck he was collecting those shards for millennia and they were still at the center if universe where he started milllenia earlier.It's not a feat at all.
It says he was summoning them. If you can show me where it says he was teleporting them, I'll re-evaluate my point.
She's still shown blocking multiple projectiles though. I don't see how that's not a reflex feat.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
PR Albi is the Ruler of the House of El, tread carefully 😄
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Not the fastest reflexes, but a microsecond is time equal to one millionth (10−6 or 1/1,000,000) of a second.
Originally posted by -K-M-
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Mentions he needs to react in a microsecond, and he does temporally escaping from the Anti-Life Entity.1. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_162.jpg [/B]