Originally posted by TheHulk
I Know I'm Just Skeptical....Cause Hulks Brain Was Shut Down, But In This Case It's RIPPED From His Head!
Martian Manhunter would have to completely bypass Hulks durability to do that...his enhanced skull, et, etc, that ain't happening. Martian Manhunter even attempting this would make Hulk more powerful.
Originally posted by carver9MM Can Use His Intagibility And Than Make His Hand Solid While It's In Hulks Head Wouldn't That Work?
Martian Manhunter would have to completely bypass Hulks durability to do that...his enhanced skull, et, etc, that ain't happening. Martian Manhunter even attempting this would make Hulk more powerful.
Originally posted by carver9
Pretty much. I can't think of a way MM could win this. Draining doesn't work anymore, physically trying to overpower Hulk doesn't work anymore, Herald strength doesn't work anymore, then he is surrounded by energy and even if he didn't surround himself in this energy, the wave of his arms sends out shockwaves powerful enough to melt Heralds and send them flying. Hulk is pretty much the ultimate brick and Martian Manhunter thought he had problems facing Doomsday, WBH is a completely different beast.
You cant? I told you how he wins. And with ease.
Fair enough, guess it got derailed for a bit.
My point was that MM did it to Prometheus, and to about 40 White Martians, to the extent that some of them were even able to work as firemen. And he maintained it effortlessly, going about his normal business with having to strain.
So if he did the same to the Hulk, created false memories so detailed and of sufficient depth to make the Hulk believe he had won, would he not calm down?
I then asked for instances of Hulk/Savage Hulk resisting or waking up from an alternate reality only to find that everything he had known for the past two weeks or whatever had been a false memory. The thread then got derailed lol.
You mean in the heat of battle, rather than afterwards when everything was wrapped up nicely and he could afford to kick back and take his time? Not that I know of, no.
But as we've already ascertained that Hulk cannot physicallydo anything to MM when phased, I assumed (feel free to disagree) that he could take his sweet time.
I may be wrong, I'm happy to discuss and be convinced, but it was just that theHulk and carved didn't really have anything, but I've read onedumb and your posts, so you guyswould probably be able to offer a discussion at least...
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
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Sorry, what I meant was:
In all the scans I have seen of the Hulk resisting illusions, they would have the illusion caster mocking the Hulk, and saying something like 'now, Hulk, prepare to meet my illusions!' or words to that effect. The Shaper of Worlds even told the Hulk he was going to create a dream world for the Hulk.
What I was looking for was the Hulk fighting off something much more subtle. Similar to Superman and the 'For the Man who has Everything' storyline, or when the Key attacked the JLA, I envisioned the Hulk not knowing that he was in a made up reality, because MM had created it in such depth. and then slowly realising some things were wrong, then breaking free of it (like Wolverine in HoM).
Originally posted by DarkSaint85On the underlined part, Wolverine actually knew that the HoM reality was wrong in the first place because among his greatest wishes, he wanted to remember everything. It was actually an ironic loophole: she incidentally fulfilled a wish of Wolverine's that would reveal the reality shift... a reality shift that was meant to fulfill wishes so that nobody would bother realizing the reality shift occurred.
Sorry, what I meant was:In all the scans I have seen of the Hulk resisting illusions, they would have the illusion caster mocking the Hulk, and saying something like 'now, Hulk, prepare to meet my illusions!' or words to that effect. The Shaper of Worlds even told the Hulk he was going to create a dream world for the Hulk.
What I was looking for was the Hulk fighting off something much more subtle. Similar to Superman and the 'For the Man who has Everything' storyline, or when the Key attacked the JLA, I envisioned the Hulk not knowing that he was in a made up reality, because MM had created it in such depth. and then slowly realising some things were wrong, then breaking free of it (like Wolverine in HoM).
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
On the underlined part, Wolverine actually knew that the HoM reality was wrong in the first place because among his greatest wishes, he wanted to remember everything. It was actually an ironic loophole: she incidentally fulfilled a wish of Wolverine's that would reveal the reality shift... a reality shift that was meant to fulfill wishes so that nobody would bother realizing the reality shift occurred.
Yes, I know, I was just using it as an example of what I was hoping to see - which you supplied, thanks!
The first time I've seen this, all the other ones were examples like Strange appearing before WWH and explicitly telling him he was now in a world where Strange was king; which would obviously piss the Hulk off even more.
Originally posted by Odekahnhere, mentallo gets his power boosted by technology and hulk eventually rejects the fantasy. this happened before the x-men incident
That's NOT a telepathic attack that the Hulk repelled. They were trying to trick him with technology. MM gets in Hulks head and it's game over.
