Delta1938
True King of House of El
Originally posted by quanchi112
When it was destroyed the threat of Doomsday was over.The ring responded immediately to him and he can't do this without the ring anyway. Can Doomsday fly without the ring ?
Nope.
So, what does Doomsday using the Power Ring to fly have to do with my request for proof on the Guardian couldn't overcome the Ring it's self? Of course, you failed to answer my question if you're saying tear gas>nukes in another thread, so I shouldn't be surprised.
Originally posted by quanchi112
http://s1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/?action=view¤t=DA1_41.jpg
I am saying the Guardian wanted to destroy the ring and he was a major threat because of the ring and his abilities paired together. That's an amp.
When the ring was destroyed he lost. Look at him ko'd and no longer a threat to the Guardian. He is knocked out which is a forum loss. Sorry but the whole reason he was an uber threat was his powerset coupled with the ring.
So what does this have to do with my question? Are you trying to argue that the Power Ring was still protecting him when it was destroyed? Are you saying he was protected when DD got hit with the force that ripped a hole in space?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Imperiex Prime didn't use a pure power blast to kill him. Imperiex prime used a specific attack I would venture to guess the power cosmic could replicate. I think the Radiant's specific attack failed but don't see Doomsday as immune to all energy blasts.
Where was it stated Imperiex Prime used a "specific attack?" We just see him blasted with energy, and a smoldering skeleton. Unless I'm not remembering some important dialogue or narration stating that Imperiex Prime used a SPECIFIC attack? And even if he did, what proof do you have Surfer could replicate it? For one, just because CIS is turned-off doesn't mean that Surfer would suddenly know a specific attack to kill Doomsday. But even if he knew it and could replicate it, what makes you think he'd have enough power to do it at the level Imperiex Prime did?
As for the Radiant's "specific attack," here's a showing from the fight with the original Radiant.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/?action=view¤t=hacsahunter-prey-02-30.jpg
I think calling that a "specific attack" would be stretching it a bit, but it's unclear if attacking him with energy in that manner is what actually killed him. When the second Radiant does that, he doesn't show surprise Doomsday is still standing. He says this--
http://s1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/?action=view¤t=hacsahunter-prey-03-09.jpg
"I remember how you were beaten the first time! FULL INTENSITY ENERGY BLAST!"
Originally posted by quanchi112
The scan makes it clear they can't stay there or they will die. Superman isn't more powerful than that but in the end this kills DD. The writer made it clear physical force in Superman's all out 95 percent mode would be enough for the kill. That's the writer so you acting like he's superior to something the writer disagrees with is delusional thinking. He never contradicted his own story you've also been corrected on the notion that DD did indeed die. You show a lack of comprehending the comic as it made it painfully clear to begin with.
No, I wasn't corrected, I was misunderstood. I was referring to what we see. Them not surviving it indefinitely is a pointless argument because there was nothing left TO survive from. Doomsday was still alive when around it's gravitational force. So, answer my question. Did the writer's opinion contradict his story, or is Superman more powerful than this?
http://s1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/?action=view¤t=Hunter-Prey-03-42.jpg
http://s1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/?action=view¤t=Hunter-Prey-03-43.jpg
Or will you continue to nitpick so you don't answer the question?
Originally posted by quanchi112
A pure power attack is different than say the power cosmic leeching off energy or something to that effect. Surfer isn't close to Imperiex Prime in power but his attack used was never just pure power.
Again, where's it stated Imperiex Prime didn't use a pure blast of power? Second Radiant said Doomsday was originally killed with a "full intensity blast" so it was just a pure blast. As far as I remember, Imperiex Prime did the same thing, just to a greater level. And again, even if you can prove that Imperiex Prime did some effect, it's still an irrelevant argument as you admit Surfer isn't near his level, so you'd have to provide evidence that even if Surfer can produce an equivalent effect, that it'd be powerful enough to work.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor is more powerful than Doomsday.
Not physically. So this is irrelevant. Or do you think Thor is stronger than Doomsday?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk is the poster child of bricks so doing well against him should be enough especially since his strength is dynamic.
Surfer almost always does well against Hulk. Hulk's the ONLY brick I've seen him consistently do well against. Or did you miss that point?
Originally posted by quanchi112
DD has never shown the ability to use teleportation so you can't just give him never before seen abilities just because you say so. It isn't an option is what I am saying.
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You continue to miss the point. But to say Doomsday couldn't develop teleportation is stupid. This creature became immune to time being frozen around him. He didn't show that ability either before he had to. And if you try to argue the teleportational tube during DOOMSDAY WARS, doesn't work. Doomsday was never fully solidified to adapt. Of course I wasn't arguing that Doomsday WILL develop teleportation to deal with Surfer BFRing him in the first place, was merely pointing-out that's the only way I think Doomsday could win a majority here under the scenario given, but then you must say I'm wrong and say it isn't an option that a creature who's whole point is to adapt to new threats in the first place and has adapted to become immune to time freezing around him can't develop teleportation.
Your best bet would be to just drop the teleportation thing. I never argued this WILL happen, but you're utterly wrong to say it isn't a possibility.
