CISless Surfer vs HP Doomsday

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
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So now you're backtracking on what this thread's origins were ("stfu, this thread has nothing to do with Hulk"😉 to manufacture pretense for singling me out when I didn't even bring up Hulk in the first place ("stfu, it's obvious this was about Hulk the entire time if you read between the lines"😉?

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But, congratulations! You win the weekly phail award for "biggest-foot-in-mouth-post-exchange." It was a close race, but you definitely clinched it with your arbitrary anger at the poster who didn't even bring up Hulk in the first place. The whole reversing course 180 degrees on your other justification for anger certainly clinched it for you. Not often you can take the role of a b1tch-mode backseat mod and make it even worse for yourself.

You, sir, are a phucking internet warrior. /salute kinda

I was right about you being behaving like a child. I love the smileys by the way. You are the god of ad hom and smileys. Is it your way of getting a "reaction" out of me lol... I mean you know you are going to look foolish either way, I think you're going for a thread lock or for me to "get angry" so I get warned to save face. Tactics like that are easy to recognize, its the type of things people resort to when they have no way out.

Proof of Butthurt:

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Phucking christ. I can honestly say that this thread is starting to p1ss me off.

🙂

^ Right. Like you have any excuse to accuse others of ad hominem when you're the genius who decided to yell at a poster for discussing Hulk with other people who had already brought up Hulk in the first place.

You've got one tactic down straight: chewing on the shoe presently in your mouth. The only way you could have avoided this epic e-trainwreck was admitting, "oops.... sorry, didn't realize other people brought up Hulk and not you." But, no. That wouldn't have soothed the Hulk-shaped imprint on your tuckus.

But please, keep projecting a feigning sense of bemusement. We all believe that you haven't just made a colossal bumbling goon of yourself. kinda

Originally posted by -Pr-
Guys, tone down the hostility, please.

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Lulz at this thread.

Hey, hey, hey wanna know something?

Proof of Butthurt:

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Phucking christ. I can honestly say that this thread is starting to p1ss me off.

^ Hey hey? Wanna know something? Artificially expanding posts isn't going to cover up the bumbling mess you created for yourself. kinda

And, yes, I am annoyed that people think Doomsday is faster than Surfer or Superman. I was annoyed about that from page 1, before Hulk was brought up... by three other people before me... which somehow makes it only my fault that Hulk was being discussed...

hysterical

Let me know when you start trolling carver9, leonidas and Odekahn for bringing up Hulk in this thread. Of course, it'd be awkward considering you were defending carver9's intentions when he made this thread to justify b1tching me out. 😂

I don't think Doomsday is faster than Superman or Surfer.

I'd say he's faster than Hulk though. Otherwise he's not quite the "Superman killer" he's supposed to be, imo.

And guys, seriously?

This isn't a race from Jupiter to Earth, this is a fight. HP DD kills SS so fast it makes Thanos GREEN with envy.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
before Hulk was brought up... by three other people before me... which somehow makes it my fault that Hulk was being discussed...

hysterical

No you did.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
It's intentional.

The real irony lies in people not recognizing that.

Proof of Butthurt:

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

Phucking christ. I can honestly say that this thread is starting to p1ss me off.

🙂

^ Still chewing on that foot of yours I see. I like how you spent two pages trying to convince me that this thread didn't have anything to do with Hulk and only now, having realized your folly, that you're trying to convince us that we all should have been reading between the lines and see it was about Hulk from the start... like I told you. Nice failure attempt to save face. It might be working. mhmm

But anyway, feel free to prove that Doomsday is faster than Surfer and Superman though. laughcry

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't think Doomsday is faster than Superman or Surfer.

I'd say he's faster than Hulk though. Otherwise he's not quite the "Superman killer" he's supposed to be, imo.

And guys, seriously?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You have got to be kidding me. A post fact does not suddenly solidify Booster Gold's statement as being faithfully literal. What he did in Death of Superman, Savage Hulk has surpassed on-panel. And Doomsday being some genetic freak of Kryptonian science doesn't justify reverse-projection of all of Superman's feats. Phucking christ. I can honestly say that this thread is starting to p1ss me off.

If Hulk would be in the same situation, and somebody with nanosecond-level combat speed (which Superman was, at this point) commented on his difficulty in matching his speed while in hand to hand combat for the fate of the world, you'd be dripping happiness in your pants. Don't pretent otherwise. You can dance around it all you want, but the issues have made it very clear, repeatedly, that his combat speed is high-end, by different fighters, in the same arc, twice of which being implied to be on Superman/Flash level, and third by another person with superspeed expressing stupefaction at him moving as fast as he does.

Originally posted by carver9
Let me post the Darkseid showing anyways. Superman comment on his speed as well. Would you like to see Grundy?

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Supermanvol2003p08.jpg

The sooner you proceed to accepting or improving either of those, the beter.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Why wouldn't I categorically rule out this flimsy reverse-projection for what it is? Doomsday exhibit some of the most basic Kryptonian powers there are? No. Flatly, no, he hasn't. Sorry if don't take for granted that he inherited others through "inference."

You and I both know full well that all of Doomsday's incarnations have exhibited nothing beyond what Hulk has. And your garbage false absolutes don't change that. My reading everybody's statements of DD for what they are, i.e., statements that are categorically referenced towards almost all agile bricks, does not necessitate me dismissing them as pure PIS. What I won't do is take Superman being surprised by an elbow from Doomsday as any different than Professor Hulk dodging Speedfreak.

The authors' intentions are, and have always been, fairly obvious. Doomsday isn't a slow hulking brute and his speed and agility belie his size and power. Now where exactly do you think that concept came from?

you seem to be laboring under the impression that i'm trying to convince you of something.....

fact is, you don't really seem to be taking a stance beyond 'he's fast, but....' or maybe you're simply saying hulk=dd's speed. i don't really know. but where are the speedsters who hulk has overwhelmed with his speed? for the most part, hulk was abused by speedfreek iirc that fight.

as far as reverse-projection: i'm simply using the origin as one more source of inferential and implied data. one more brick in the house.

the thing about dd vs hulk--his speed was referrenced OFTEN. and it wasn't just by slow guys. a POINT WAS MADE in its referrencing. you'll say the same point is made when hulk's speed is referrenced but that is different because the context and intent differs. superman says he's as fast as lightning. hyperbole? perhaps, but it certainly is made to appear less so because it was referrenced so many times. is he faster than flash? no. but was there a point in such a declaration? of course. i don't see anyone saying hulk is faster than quicksilver. given his ltd appearances and the number of times his speed is referrenced, i think it clear as day that we are to assume a level of superspeed well beyond hulk.

and as to your claim that we both know hulk's done everything speed wise dd has....? well, no. he hasn't. show hulk actually overwhelming someone with his speed (anyone, forget people with legit dc-esque superspeed) instead of simply surprising them. that is a very large distinction.

so, yeah.

I'd have said that DD wins, but he loses here.

If only he had some kind of energy projection (and in order to tag Surfer, it'd have to be multi-directional), and had a strength amp (perhaps sufficient to smash, or BREAK, a world?), then he could do it.

I'm kidding. Surfer wins, especially if we follow the OP's line of thought regarding what CISless means. Even if 'CIS off' does not mean the same thing that the OP said, the tactics that have been used (intangibility, planetary level matter manipulating blasts) leads me to believe that this thread was created in order for Surfer to win.

Originally posted by Philosophía
All of the statements are corroborated by Superman later having problems matching Doomsday's speed, in the final fight in Metropolis.

If Hulk would be in the same situation, and somebody with faster than nanosecond-level combat speed (which Superman was, at this point) commented on his difficulty in matching his speed while in hand to hand combat for the fate of the world, you'd be dripping happiness in your pants. Don't pretent otherwise. You can dance around it all you want, but the issues have made it very clear, repeatedly, that his combat speed is high-end, by different fighters, in the same arc, twice of which being implied to be on Superman/Flash level, and third by another person with superspeed expressing stupefaction at him moving as fast as he does.

You didn't read that comic. Darkseid has superspeed. You are dense.

The sooner you proceed to accepting or improving either of those, the beter.

Originally posted by Odekahn
Lol, edited it. Started to sound kinda kinky.

😂

Doomsday imo. Btw what a threat guys! ha

Originally posted by Galan007
Assuming BFR is not permitted, DD beats the shit out of Surfer, and shoves the board up his ass for the lulz.

Originally posted by Philosophía
All of the statements are corroborated by Superman later having problems matching Doomsday's speed, in the final fight in Metropolis.

If Hulk would be in the same situation, and somebody with nanosecond-level combat speed (which Superman was, at this point) commented on his difficulty in matching his speed while in hand to hand combat for the fate of the world, you'd be dripping happiness in your pants. Don't pretent otherwise. You can dance around it all you want, but the issues have made it very clear, repeatedly, that his combat speed is high-end, by different fighters, in the same arc, twice of which being implied to be on Superman/Flash level, and third by another person with superspeed expressing stupefaction at him moving as fast as he does.

You didn't read that comic. Darkseid has superspeed. You are dense.

The sooner you proceed to accepting or improving either of those, the beter.

Originally posted by Juntai
Despite all the spelling mistakes, this is correct.

Originally posted by Philosophía
b;tch, please. I typo'd 'better'.

Originally posted by Juntai
And pretend.

Originally posted by Odekahn
Doomsday has already been killed by a blast much stronger than anything Surfer could dish out. Doomsday can't be killed the same way twice.

👆 Blasts are totally out of the question. Surfer's not replicating a Imperiex level blast anyway. I don't see Surfer winning this at all minus bfr.