Originally posted by Bullmonkéy
Minato couldn't take on his own student and couldn't perfect his own rasengan. He didn't advance early on like itachi did...I see a possibility closer to the final valley with senju vs uchiha. That wasn't a pun...
itachi is more than just susano'o and I think he could get in closer plus eye sight itself plus other tricks could cast minato in illusion. If minato wins I think it'd have to be in hands of masashi kishimoto first.
What are talking about? he pwned Tobi, with 2 moves.
He created the rasengan. A brand new technique. Adding an element unsuccessfully does not take away from that. Only Naruto has been able to exceed Minato in mastery of the rasengan, and well, he's Naruto. He eventually masters every tech he wants to learn.
Minato was heralded as a genius as well. What manga are you reading?