Most powerful things/entities in the Marvel Omniverse

Originally posted by DTM
LT is definately weaker than PreRetcon Beyonder, as he was one of the many Cosmic Beings that were afraid of what he would do, and was routinely talked down to by the Beyonder. By that same token, LT would also be weaker than PR Molecule Man as well. The Beyonder back in the day was stated to be millions of times more powerful than the entire universe (possibly multiverse) combined, he essentially was GOD. Shame they RetConned him, TWICE, into now simply a mutant Inhuman.

lt is hmm

You need to add Lucifer and Michael and the New Presence, Elaine. I would put her on the tops.

Originally posted by cpd12589
1. The One Above All
2. Pre Recon Beyonder
3. The Heart of the Universe(Heart of the Infinite)
4. Living Tribunal
5. Nemesis
6. Infinity Gaunlet
7. Multi-Eternity merged with Multi-Infinity
8. Multi-Eternity/Multi-Infinity
9. Eternity and Infinity merged together
10. Full Powered Galactus with the Ultimate Nullifier
11. Abraxas/Eternity/Infinity/Full Powered Galactus/Death/Oblivion/Phoenix Force(the force itself not the avatars)
12. The Seven Friendless/Zom/Sise-neg/Mikaboshi(Chaos King)
13. Infinites/Makers/Beyonders and many other powerful entities could take this spot and so on

Do you agree with the order? and if not what should be changed/added/removed?

who is the goat monk 😛

Jim Shooter's Beyonder was the Big daddy of the omnipotent beings and introduced as the most powerfulest being ever to exist in the Marvel Universe before his retcon. Beyonder was peeping into his Beyonder microscope and saw microbe multiverses. He must of had an eye of the size of Omniverse.

Originally posted by DTM
LT is definately weaker than PreRetcon Beyonder, as he was one of the many Cosmic Beings that were afraid of what he would do, and was routinely talked down to by the Beyonder. By that same token, LT would also be weaker than PR Molecule Man as well. The Beyonder back in the day was stated to be millions of times more powerful than the entire universe (possibly multiverse) combined, he essentially was GOD. Shame they RetConned him, TWICE, into now simply a mutant Inhuman.

Most of you are wrong.

Some of you are right.

Some of you know something.

Others seem to know nothing.

pre retcon characters no longer exist 😛

Originally posted by guy222
pre retcon characters no longer exist 😛

I claim that "Purple Haze" WILL BE the most powerful being of All Time.

Purple Haze is the love-child spawned by the Tri-Union marriage of Living Tribunal, Pre-Retcon Beyonder and The One Above all in the 45th Century of Marvel Universe 616.

First Appearance, April 2021 issue of "Infinite Powerful Fighting Guys #62". Birthed in the 45th Century, as written in the future comic book series.

You WILL agree with me. 9 Years From Now.

Originally posted by the Darkone
^^ Your list doesn't make any sense what so ever, Captain Britain w/ Amulet of Power and Excalibur can rewrite the whole Omniverse, you have HOFTU below Classic Beyonder are on crack, if anything they are equal.

You must feel very passionate about Captain Britain or HOTU to think drugs might have something to do with someones opinions about comic book characters. But anyway, what exactly do you think Excalibur is?

Also Captain Britain and the Amulet of Power have never came in contact. Are you referring to the Amulet of Right?

The Heat of the Universe(Heart of the Infinite) has power over everything within the Omniverse. That's why the LT was powerless against it when Thanos wielded it since he along with everything else exists in the Omniverse. But Pre Recon Beyonder exists outside the Omniverse, thus he's the "Beyonder". That is actually the first thing addressed in that comic. In 1984 when the Beyonder first came about there was no Omniverse yet, that concept was not thought of yet. There was just the Multiverse and the Beyonder was outside of that, thus outside of everything. Therefore Pre Recon Beyonder is only second to The One Above All, usually represented by Stan Lee but also Jack Kirby....

Originally posted by lilshogun
You need to add Lucifer and Michael and the New Presence, Elaine. I would put her on the tops.

Originally posted by cpd12589
Most powerful things/entities in the Marvel Omniverse

Originally posted by cpd12589
The Heat of the Universe(Heart of the Infinite) has power over everything within the Omniverse. That's why the LT was powerless against it when Thanos wielded it since he along with everything else exists in the Omniverse. But Pre Recon Beyonder exists outside the Omniverse, thus he's the "Beyonder". That is actually the first thing addressed in that comic. In 1984 when the Beyonder first came about there was no Omniverse yet, that concept was not thought of yet. There was just the Multiverse and the Beyonder was outside of that, thus outside of everything. Therefore Pre Recon Beyonder is only second to The One Above All, usually represented by Stan Lee but also Jack Kirby....

Couple things wrong here.

1. Thanos with the HOTU did not, in fact, absorb the omniverse. He absorbed the multiverse, but it was shown that Adam Warlock and Death both left the multiverse and were unaffected by Thanos in Marvel: The End.

2. Beyonder was a part of the Marvel omniverse when he was introduced, even if the term "omniverse" didn't exist then on panel. By definition the Marvel Omniverse is the entirety of Marvel. It's a word that was created afterwards, but it's definition can still be applied appropriately.

Originally posted by Cogito
Couple things wrong here.

1. Thanos with the HOTU did not, in fact, absorb the omniverse. He absorbed the multiverse, but it was shown that Adam Warlock and Death both left the multiverse and were unaffected by Thanos in Marvel: The End.

2. Beyonder was a part of the Marvel omniverse when he was introduced, even if the term "omniverse" didn't exist then on panel. By definition the Marvel Omniverse is the entirety of Marvel. It's a word that was created afterwards, but it's definition can still be applied appropriately.

Yeah I never got into that whole Marvel: The End thing. Just knew most basic things about it. I also never said anything about anyone absorbing anything....?

I understand what you are saying about the definition of the word Omniverse. But back in 84' the Living Tribunal existed in the Multiverse, but now the Living Tribunal is outside the Multiverse in the Omniverse. The Beyonder trumped everyone and everything because he was in fact beyond all.

Basically all I'm saying is in 1984 when Beyonder came about everything was in the Multiverse except the Beyonder and that was why he was omnipotent. Just by Beyonder thinking to much suns implode, worlds collide, parallel dimensions collapse, etc.

C'mon I'm sure you've read it, you know what I'm talking about. The Infinites exist outside the Multiverse but they don't have the Living Tribunal and the rest of everything on their knees begging. That's the difference I'm talking about.

For those that haven't read it. http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t412978.html

Originally posted by Horrificus
True. 🙂
So, if he can be used here, we should also be able to use characters that haven't existed "Yet", but "Will". 😄

I claim that [b]"Purple Haze" WILL BE the most powerful being of All Time.

Purple Haze is the love-child spawned by the Tri-Union marriage of Living Tribunal, Pre-Retcon Beyonder and The One Above all in the 45th Century of Marvel Universe 616.

First Appearance, April 2021 issue of "Infinite Powerful Fighting Guys #62". Birthed in the 45th Century, as written in the future comic book series.

You WILL agree with me. 9 Years From Now. [/B]

have a good saturday 🙂

squirrel girl because she defeated thanos

Originally posted by guy222
have a good saturday 🙂

You have a good one too, man.

i sure will stay blessed

There might be a cat or two I'm missing friends,
but this is off the top of the dome,
so ... bare with me.

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0. Toaa/god
(depicted as the Artists and Writers of Marvel Comics)

THOTI:
(raw power & status of the Supreme Being withIN the Omniverse)

.......................................................................

1. Classic Beyonder

beneath him ... Classic Molecule Man:

(yall know why)

.......................................................................

2. The Infinity Being:
(his power was the first to create all the Realities in current Marvel
he also simultaneously created the Infinity Gems)

.......................................................................

3. (SHARED Spot) with Protege somewhere > LT and Scathan somewhere > both.

The LT
(only TOAA is above him Now, only THOTI has defeated him)

In the 31st Century (1000 years from now)

1. Scathan

2. Protege

3. LT

.......................................................................

(Shared Spot)

Alien Entity
(folded the entire Omniverse to the point before its creation (the Void)
then re-created the Omniverse with Reed's mind literally from nothingness)

Sise-Neg
(absorbed all existing energy across Marvel,
re-created Marvel via the Big Bang)

The BeyonderS
(tiny fraction of their energy empowers CCUs)

HOM Wanda:
(completely re-structured 616, subconciously collapsed the Omniverse,
consciously rebuilt the Omniverse from its collapse)

.......................................................................

6. (SHARED Spot) in no particular order:

Classic Jaspers 616
(more powerful than Merlyn, could only be defeated by a Plot Device - the Fury)

Not too sure how I should rank the Fury itself.

Jamie Braddock:
(Warped the WHR, can create from scratch using Quantum Strings,
controls entire Universes if he chooses, Merged Jaspers & Fury,
manipulated the salvation of the Omniverse during HOM ... oh yes, that's right)

.......................................................................

7. SHARED Spot: (Omniversal powers) in no particular order:

Matrix empowered Merlyn: (if applicable)
(fused the life-force of the entire Omniverse into tiny Crystals)

Edifice Rex:
(was going to return the Omniverse to it's Cosmic Egg)

Havok merged with the Nexus of All Realities: (if applicable)
(the embodiment of Omniversal connection)

FP CCU:
(Remade the Omniverse,
and in another story nearly destroyed the Omniverse for good)

IG:
(4 Gems nearly collapsed ALL the Realities,
were creating UniverseS back to back and stacking them,
so imagine the 6 Gems in the IG)

Captain Britain w/Excalibur and Amulet of Right:
(the Hand of God, that can sunder the Omniverse)

FP Meggan:
(absorbed power from the Pan-Dimensional Beyond "BeyonderS" ...
paused the Chaos Wave for a moment)

###

(These Two I'll leave here ... but beneath the others,
since they can't affect the Omniverse completely simultaneously)

Vangaard:
(can erase any Universe in the Omniverse he so chooses)

The Celestial Nullifier:
(can erase any Universe in the Omniverse)

.......................................................................

8. The Brothers:
(guardians/embodiments/creators of Two MegaverseS)

.......................................................................

(Multiversal Powers)

9. Masters of the Matrix:
(their Realm - the Martix Microverse - a small micro-Universe outside the Multiverse, they overlook the "Blueprint Matrix" the focal point of Creation from which the entire Multiverse was spawned)

.......................................................................

10. The UN:
(can erase and Remake the Multiverse)

.......................................................................

11. Abraxas:
(can re-order reality in a Universe just by coming near it,
can kill a being and all his counter-parts across the Realities simultaneously,
proved to be unstoppable against the power of the multiversal space-time continuum,
had only one weakness)

.......................................................................

12. Molecule Man:
(Warped Reality within every Universe in the Multiverse, nearly collapse the Multiverse)

.......................................................................

13. (SHARED Spot)

Entropy:
(can Re-Create the Multiverse (and indeed marvel) from nothingness)

Umar:
(Possesses/shares the Totality of Eternity's Power) ... Canon PIS.

Multi or (Totality) of Eternity/Infinity (or 616 consciousness)
(embodiment of the Multiverse)

Multi or (Totality) of Death and Oblivion (or 616 consciousness of said Concepts)
(embodiment of Multiversal Death and Nothingness)

Nth Man:
(embodiment of another Multiverse,
can absorb Universes from the Prime Multiverse easily)

.......................................................................

14. Multi or (Totality) of the rest of the Major Concepts/Abstracts of the Multiverse.

.......................................................................

15. (SHARED Spot) in no particular order:

The Infinites:
(handled an Aspect of Eternity, they maintain the Multiverse)

The Makers:
(they can Re-arrange entire Universes to fit their desires)

Atleza:
(Anchors the Prime Universe (616) from being pulled into the Void/Obivion)

Galactus Insatiable:
(only seen once) ... Potentially Higher on this list ...
(was in the process of absorbing a Universal Timeline connected to 616,
according to Reed & GOTG, Galactus was going to absorb the Omniverse basically)

Genis Insane/Photon or Full potential:
(seen during HOM) can blink a Universe In and Out of existence)
was seen by the Thunderbolts erasing 616 Reality and all its Timelines in the Future)

The Rot:
(erases Time & Space/Reality)

The Hunger:
(devours Time & Space/Reality)

Slorioth:
(absorbs Universal Reality at all times)

.......................................................................

16. (SHARED Spot) in Order:

1. The Phoenix Force:
(has destroyed two alternate realities)

2. Korvac:
(empowered by Galactus' World Ship)
(made subtle warps in the 616 Universe, shielded his presence from Eternity and company)

.......................................................................

17. (alternate and divergent UniverseS) in Order:

1. ALL Other Eternity/Infinity's

2. ALL Other (Death - Lord Chaos & Master Order)

3. rest of the Abstracts

What about Astaroth who was going to be a threat to the multiverse or omniverse when she gained more power, or the Post-Retcon Brothers, Zom/Shuma-Gorath, or of course the true Supreme Being of Marvel, Squirrel Girl?

Originally posted by Mr Master
There might be a cat or two I'm missing friends,
but this is off the top of the dome,
so ... bare with me.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

0. Toaa/god
(depicted as the Artists and Writers of Marvel Comics)

THOTI:
(raw power & status of the Supreme Being withIN the Omniverse)

.......................................................................

1. Classic Beyonder

beneath him ... Classic Molecule Man:

(yall know why)

.......................................................................

2. The Infinity Being:
(his power was the first to create all the Realities in current Marvel
he also simultaneously created the Infinity Gems)

.......................................................................

3. (SHARED Spot) with Protege somewhere > LT and Scathan somewhere > both.

The LT
(only TOAA is above him Now, only THOTI has defeated him)

In the 31st Century (1000 years from now)

1. Scathan

2. Protege

3. LT

.......................................................................

(Shared Spot)

Alien Entity
(folded the entire Omniverse to the point before its creation (the Void)
then re-created the Omniverse with Reed's mind literally from nothingness)

Sise-Neg
(absorbed all existing energy across Marvel,
re-created Marvel via the Big Bang)

The BeyonderS
(tiny fraction of their energy empowers CCUs)

HOM Wanda:
(completely re-structured 616, subconciously collapsed the Omniverse,
consciously rebuilt the Omniverse from its collapse)

.......................................................................

6. (SHARED Spot) in no particular order:

Classic Jaspers 616
(more powerful than Merlyn, could only be defeated by a Plot Device - the Fury)

Not too sure how I should rank the Fury itself.

Jamie Braddock:
(Warped the WHR, can create from scratch using Quantum Strings,
controls entire Universes if he chooses, Merged Jaspers & Fury,
manipulated the salvation of the Omniverse during HOM ... oh yes, that's right)

.......................................................................

7. SHARED Spot: (Omniversal powers) in no particular order:

Matrix empowered Merlyn: (if applicable)
(fused the life-force of the entire Omniverse into tiny Crystals)

Edifice Rex:
(was going to return the Omniverse to it's Cosmic Egg)

Havok merged with the Nexus of All Realities: (if applicable)
(the embodiment of Omniversal connection)

FP CCU:
(Remade the Omniverse,
and in another story nearly destroyed the Omniverse for good)

IG:
(4 Gems nearly collapsed ALL the Realities,
were creating UniverseS back to back and stacking them,
so imagine the 6 Gems in the IG)

Captain Britain w/Excalibur and Amulet of Right:
(the Hand of God, that can sunder the Omniverse)

FP Meggan:
(absorbed power from the Pan-Dimensional Beyond "BeyonderS" ...
paused the Chaos Wave for a moment)

###

(These Two I'll leave here ... but beneath the others,
since they can't affect the Omniverse completely simultaneously)

Vangaard:
(can erase any Universe in the Omniverse he so chooses)

The Celestial Nullifier:
(can erase any Universe in the Omniverse)

.......................................................................

8. The Brothers:
(guardians/embodiments/creators of Two MegaverseS)

.......................................................................

(Multiversal Powers)

9. Masters of the Matrix:
(their Realm - the Martix Microverse - a small micro-Universe outside the Multiverse, they overlook the "Blueprint Matrix" the focal point of Creation from which the entire Multiverse was spawned)

.......................................................................

10. The UN:
(can erase and Remake the Multiverse)

.......................................................................

11. Abraxas:
(can re-order reality in a Universe just by coming near it,
can kill a being and all his counter-parts across the Realities simultaneously,
proved to be unstoppable against the power of the multiversal space-time continuum,
had only one weakness)

.......................................................................

12. Molecule Man:
(Warped Reality within every Universe in the Multiverse, nearly collapse the Multiverse)

.......................................................................

13. (SHARED Spot)

Entropy:
(can Re-Create the Multiverse (and indeed marvel) from nothingness)

Umar:
(Possesses/shares the Totality of Eternity's Power) ... Canon PIS.

Multi or (Totality) of Eternity/Infinity (or 616 consciousness)
(embodiment of the Multiverse)

Multi or (Totality) of Death and Oblivion (or 616 consciousness of said Concepts)
(embodiment of Multiversal Death and Nothingness)

Nth Man:
(embodiment of another Multiverse,
can absorb Universes from the Prime Multiverse easily)

.......................................................................

14. Multi or (Totality) of the rest of the Major Concepts/Abstracts of the Multiverse.

.......................................................................

15. (SHARED Spot) in no particular order:

The Infinites:
(handled an Aspect of Eternity, they maintain the Multiverse)

The Makers:
(they can Re-arrange entire Universes to fit their desires)

Atleza:
(Anchors the Prime Universe (616) from being pulled into the Void/Obivion)

Galactus Insatiable:
(only seen once) ... Potentially Higher on this list ...
(was in the process of absorbing a Universal Timeline connected to 616,
according to Reed & GOTG, Galactus was going to absorb the Omniverse basically)

Genis Insane/Photon or Full potential:
(seen during HOM) can blink a Universe In and Out of existence)
was seen by the Thunderbolts erasing 616 Reality and all its Timelines in the Future)

The Rot:
(erases Time & Space/Reality)

The Hunger:
(devours Time & Space/Reality)

Slorioth:
(absorbs Universal Reality at all times)

.......................................................................

16. (SHARED Spot) in Order:

1. The Phoenix Force:
(has destroyed two alternate realities)

2. Korvac:
(empowered by Galactus' World Ship)
(made subtle warps in the 616 Universe, shielded his presence from Eternity and company)

.......................................................................

17. (alternate and divergent UniverseS) in Order:

1. ALL Other Eternity/Infinity's

2. ALL Other (Death - Lord Chaos & Master Order)

3. rest of the Abstracts

The master has spoken!!

Originally posted by the Darkone
The master has spoken!!

The word "Omniversal" seems to have been thrown around an awful lot, considering it's meaning.