Black Lantern Kal-L vs The Keeper (Surfer)

Started by Endless Mike7 pages

Well I knew that already...

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Well I knew that already...

Now its confirmed.

The answer is in the scans that Abhi just posted.

Dr. Light was able to artifically create not just white light, but emotional spectrum white light.

Originally posted by abhilegend
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/DC/16-17.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/DC/19.jpg

First scans shows her experiencing the requisite emotions, and then channeling those into the light she created in the second scan.

That seems pretty obvious, no? 😕

Surfer, frankly, doesn't usually show a wide range of emotions so I don't think he's pulling that off.

Originally posted by Cogito
The answer is in the scans that Abhi just posted.

Dr. Light was able to artifically create not just white light, but emotional spectrum white light.

First scans shows her experiencing the requisite emotions, and then channeling those into the light she created in the second scan.

That seems pretty obvious, no? 😕

Surfer, frankly, doesn't usually show a wide range of emotions so I don't think he's pulling that off.


BLASEPHAMY.

You suggest there are energies that marvel's energy manipulators can't manipulate? How dare you!!!!!!!!!!

uhuh

Originally posted by Stoic
I have a question. Why wouldn't the bright light trick work on BL Kal L, but would work on all of the other Black Lanterns?

because then this would be a stomp and there would be not point of this thre.... I mean because Kal is special and just deal with it.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
because then this would be a stomp and there would be not point of this thre.... I mean because Kal is special and just deal with it.

Or because its transplanting feats from one character to another and using ABC logic.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Or because its transplanting feats from one character to another and using ABC logic.

agreed, can't use what works on one black lantern and assume it would work on another black lantern with the same type of ring and powered by the same energy.

Thats why im surprised new kyrpton was able to make a device that keep out all black lanterns like seriously wtf.

Also light that is white is definitely unique to DC, and Marvel should not in anyway be able to reproduce this even for someone such as surfer who can manipulate energy and matter as easy as he does much less a amped surfer.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
agreed, can't use what works on one black lantern and assume it would work on another black lantern with the same type of ring and powered by the same energy.

Exactly. All black lanterns retained their abilities. Its like saying someone koed john stewart with some attack so it would ko sodam yat too.

Thats why im surprised new kyrpton was able to make a device that keep out all black lanterns like seriously wtf.

Doom jacked galactus' power with tech. Surfer can jack it too, obviously. I didn't know keeper has kryptonian tech in this fight.

Also light that is white is definitely unique to DC, and Marvel should not in anyway be able to reproduce this even for someone such as surfer who can manipulate energy and matter as easy as he does much less a amped surfer.

You see surfer creating gloves using willpower collected throughout universe, call me.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Exactly. All black lanterns retained their abilities. Its like saying someone koed john stewart with some attack so it would ko sodam yat too.

Doom jacked galactus' power with tech. Surfer can jack it too, obviously. I didn't know keeper has kryptonian tech in this fight.

You see surfer creating gloves using willpower collected throughout universe, call me.

Swing a miss on every point 💃

Surfer has no emotional connection to Kal-L, he won't experience the necessary range of emotions (all of them) to generate the white light of life.

It's not just generating white light.

/thread.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Swing a miss on every point 💃

Wow, great reply!

Originally posted by Cogito
Surfer has no emotional connection to Kal-L, he won't experience the necessary range of emotions (all of them) to generate the white light of life.

It's not just generating white light.

/thread.

Okay I guess I could buy that bit about you need a emotional connection + white light powers.

But "/thread" nawww someone like surfer does not simple rely on that to win.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Wow, great reply!

Yep gonna frame that baby. Then call my parents over to marvel at my accomplishments. ring ring "why yes mr. president you can come over too!"

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Yep gonna frame that baby. Then call my parents over to marvel at my accomplishments. ring ring "why yes mr. president you can come over too!"

Yeah, I'm speechless.🙄

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Okay I guess I could buy that bit about you need a emotional connection + white light powers.

But "/thread" nawww someone like surfer does not simple rely on that to win.

It explicitly showed her light-based powers not work.

Then it explicitly showed her becoming highly emotional across all spectrums.

Then it explicitly showed her create the white light that did work.

I don't know how much more obvious it could get. I suppose they could have written it out in size 50 font, but that approach lacks a kind of elegance.

Originally posted by Cogito
It explicitly showed her light-based powers not work.

Then it explicitly showed her becoming highly emotional across all spectrums.

Then it explicitly showed her create the white light that did work.

I don't know how much more obvious it could get. I suppose they could have written it out in size 50 font, but that approach lacks a kind of elegance.

Or you can just accept that I am agreeing with you in a less than enthusiastic way.... 🙁

But if you are upset about thinking that, thats surfers only route via win then well i disagree.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Or you can just accept that I am agreeing with you in a less than enthusiastic way.... 🙁

But if you are upset about thinking that, thats surfers only route via win then well i disagree.

Black Lanterns are hax. I don't see any way for someone like Surfer to win. It's not his fault. He's not lacking for power, it's just the wrong power in this case.
😬

OK. So, why exactly, can't the Keeper duplicate the way Halo or Dr. Light was able to win?

Did you read?

Originally posted by Cogito
Surfer, frankly, doesn't usually show a wide range of emotions so I don't think he's pulling that off.
Are you kidding?

You have just proven that you have no idea what you are talking about.

The Keeper can't duplicate this feat because Surfer doesn't have a wide enough emotional range?

From this point forward, ANYTHING you claim, involving Surfer, is suspect. You do not have enough experience with the character to be making any kind of knowledgeable argument.

Surfer is one of the "squishiest", emotional, sissy, whining characters in comic books. And, I have even stated this in other threads.

He is constantly throwing fits. Getting depressed. Has fallen in love.
He is in a constant state of "menstruation"!

As you can tell, I am not a big fan. But, at least I have read 95% of the Surfer-related books out there.

Is there anybody out there that would like to disagree with me on this, UNTIL I roll up a bunch of scans and stuff them up your a**es?

Or, can we agree on this as FACT?

And, if the Keeper IS in fact a VERY emotional being, AND he can duplicate the generation of light/energy feats that others have used to defeat Black Rings, can somebody give a reason why it won't work?