Trading punches

Started by Rage.Of.Olympus12 pages
Originally posted by carver9
And that shows you how powerful Hulk is. In this same arc that you are trying so hard to brush off, Umar was still unable to stop the Mindless Ones and again, this was stated on panel. They were recently referenced as powerful and in the same arc you are trying to downplay, they were still referenced as being capable of being unstoppable, even to a high level skyfather.

I don't have access to the arc right now but if this is the scan you're referring to:

Originally posted by carver9
Umar was unable to beat the Mindless which was stated and shown on panel.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8319255/Incredible_Hulks_633_014.jpg.html

Then, well, you're being delusional.

Also, I'm not trying to brush off anything, I'm just pointing out that characters like the Mindless Ones aren't consistently as powerful across the board. Otherwise I could just reference Thing/Blastaar (One of the two) owning a group of them and mock Hulk for being so unimpressive.

I have to go to work now, please try and refrain from lying about shit.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I wasn't talking about you specifically but just skimming through this thread, it's clear that Hulk destroying that planet was an incredibly big deal and probably the main reason why you think he wins.

If by in a completely different manner you mean it was more impressive because they accomplished the feat simply by cutting loose with their raw power, then yes, I agree.

That's not what happened at all. Why are you going to lie to me about Beta Ray Bill of all people? Bill grabbed Stardust weapon and the force of him striking the blade to impale the herald destroyed the planet.

Now that I think about it, Bill destroying the planet is a lot more impressive than Hulk because he did it solo.

Hey, if you can't handle discussing facts with me and have to run to Philo, then by all means go ahead. Not my style on picking on the weak anyways.

Like I said before, the way he destroyed said planets and moons (with a single strike without even touching the planet) was far more impressive in a PHYSICAL NATURE.

LOL...I can't believe you are trying to discuss Beta Ray Bill with me, especially since I've posted the scans of this encounter NUMEROUS of times. Stardust is blasting Bill, Bill use his hammer to absorb the attack. He then bomb rush Stardust for quite some distance at light speed ramming him into a planet (while energy was circling their body). If you don't see the difference then thats you. One is with a connection of a planet, actually making physical contact and the other didn't even have to lay a glove to destroy a planet and took two moons with it. Big difference buddy.

I dont know who post you were reading because it wasn't mine. I NEVER said Hulk destroying the planet was the deciding factor of this fight even though its better than any punching ft Doomsday or any Herald or Skyfather had ever done. Deal with it.

Originally posted by carver9
Like I said before, the way he destroyed said planets and moons (with a single strike without even touching the planet) was far more impressive in a PHYSICAL NATURE.

LOL...I can't believe you are trying to discuss Beta Ray Bill with me, especially since I've posted the scans of this encounter NUMEROUS of times. Stardust is blasting Bill, Bill use his hammer to absorb the attack. He then bomb rush Stardust for quite some distance at light speed ramming him into a planet (while energy was circling their body). If you don't see the difference then thats you. One is with a connection of a planet, actually making physical contact and the other didn't even have to lay a glove to destroy a planet and took two moons with it. Big difference buddy.

I dont know who post you were reading because it wasn't mine. I NEVER said Hulk destroying the planet was the deciding factor of this fight even though its better than any punching ft Doomsday or any Herald or Skyfather had ever done. Deal with it.

Phew! Here you are carter my good buddy. Thought I'd lost you for a sec there!

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't have access to the arc right now but if this is the scan you're referring to:

Then, well, you're being delusional.

Also, I'm not trying to brush off anything, I'm just pointing out that characters like the Mindless Ones aren't consistently as powerful across the board. Otherwise I could just reference Thing/Blastaar (One of the two) owning a group of them and mock Hulk for being so unimpressive.

I have to go to work now, please try and refrain from lying about shit.

That's not the scan I am talking about, im talking about the scene where Strange states that with their help, they can aid Umar in stopping the Mindless Ones since she can't stop them...then Hulk said that she doesn't need them when she have him to stop the Mindless ones.

Recent portrayals have the Mindless Ones as an unstoppable force. In HOM, they were referenced as an unstoppable force. Previous portrayals, you might find a couple of low showings (which every character have) but the average portrayal of them have them brushing off everything, running off Heralds and tackling skyfathers/making skyfather piss on themselves.

Wow...dmills. I'm done here.

Carter wait for me man!

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Now that I think about it, Bill destroying the planet is a lot more impressive than Hulk because he did it solo.
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Originally posted by carver9
Like I said before, the way he destroyed said planets and moons (with a single strike without even touching the planet) was far more impressive in a PHYSICAL NATURE.

LOL...I can't believe you are trying to discuss Beta Ray Bill with me, especially since I've posted the scans of this encounter NUMEROUS of times. Stardust is blasting Bill, Bill use his hammer to absorb the attack. He then bomb rush Stardust for quite some distance at light speed ramming him into a planet (while energy was circling their body). If you don't see the difference then thats you. One is with a connection of a planet, actually making physical contact and the other didn't even have to lay a glove to destroy a planet and took two moons with it. Big difference buddy.

I dont know who post you were reading because it wasn't mine. I NEVER said Hulk destroying the planet was the deciding factor of this fight even though its better than any punching ft Doomsday or any Herald or Skyfather had ever done. Deal with it.

Please define the phrase physical nature and in what sense the Hulk's feat was more impressive.

Anyone who's read up on World Breaker Hulk can tell you that this incarnation of the Hulk has crossed over from pure muscle power only. If you want to ignore all the raw gamma energy and such, then that's fine but I'll adopt the same policy.

Look everybody, Morg and Surfer destroyed Celestial bodies with a casual headbutt:
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4205/silversurferannual07303ff4.jpg

Man, Silver Surfer/Morg are a lot stronger than those weaklings Hulk/Red She-Hulk.

Unfortunately Carver, I have the scans here and Bill impaling Stardust as they were nearing the planet was the force that resulted in planetary destruction, not them flying into it:
http://m673.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/galanphotos/brb_strike1.jpg.html?src=www&action=view&current=brb_strike1.jpg
http://m673.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/galanphotos/brb_strike2.jpg.html?src=www&action=view&current=brb_strike2.jpg

Lol, poor Hulk's so weak compared to Bill, dude needed assistance in planetary destruction. Zero swag.

I never said that you said that, but it's pretty obvious after reading through this thread. I'm not the one who has trouble dealing with facts to the point he makes up lies.

Originally posted by Galan007
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Wbh not oNly destroyed the planet but several other planets..

Wbh busting (at the very least 3 planets with a single punch) makes brbs feat look like childs play, they are not in the same league.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Wbh [and Betty] not oNly destroyed the planet but all the moons...
Fixed for accuracy.

Originally posted by carver9
That's not the scan I am talking about, im talking about the scene where Strange states that with their help, they can aid Umar in stopping the Mindless Ones since she can't stop them...then Hulk said that she doesn't need them when she have him to stop the Mindless ones.

Recent portrayals have the Mindless Ones as an unstoppable force. In HOM, they were referenced as an unstoppable force. Previous portrayals, you might find a couple of low showings (which every character have) but the average portrayal of them have them brushing off everything, running off Heralds and tackling skyfathers/making skyfather piss on themselves.

Well, post the scan then as I don't have comics available to me at the moment. You're description right now suggests that it's not the evidence you claimed it to be earlier.

Obviously not if Hulk and co. could take them out. Debatable. Show me a Skyfather wetting themselves or admit to being a liar.

Originally posted by Galan007
Fixed for accuracy.
The intensity of the blast made it seem that even at 1/2 power it wouldnt still have done the feat, those planets were vaporised.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Moons are weak shit

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Tell that to superman who knocked himself out trying to bust one. 😕

Lets see thor bust three moons with a shockwave of one punch.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
The intensity of the blast made it seem that even at 1/2 power it wouldnt still have done the feat, those planets were vaporised.
Point is, it was still a SHARED feat between Hulk and Betty. Hulk, on his own, didn't do shit.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Tell that to superman who knocked himself out trying to bust one. 😕
The dark energies said moon was emitting, and Superman flying near the speed of light when he ran into it, had nothing to do with him being ko'd, right?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
The intensity of the blast made it seem that even at 1/2 power it wouldnt still have done the feat, those planets were vaporised.

The planet was not vaporized. Destroyed, shattered etc. yes, but not vaporized.

I think it's very telling that those in favor of the Hulk spin shit.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Tell that to superman who knocked himself out trying to bust one. 😕

Lets see thor bust three moons with a shockwave of one punch.

Whatever, I was gonna make a joke but forgot to finish it.

Anyways, I'm late. Remember, no lying Carver.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Please define the phrase physical nature and in what sense the Hulk's feat was more impressive.

Anyone who's read up on World Breaker Hulk can tell you that this incarnation of the Hulk has crossed over from pure muscle power only. If you want to ignore all the raw gamma energy and such, then that's fine but I'll adopt the same policy.

Look everybody, Morg and Surfer destroyed Celestial bodies with a casual headbutt:
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4205/silversurferannual07303ff4.jpg

Man, Silver Surfer/Morg are a lot stronger than those weaklings Hulk/Red She-Hulk.

Unfortunately Carver, I have the scans here and Bill impaling Stardust as they were nearing the planet was the force that resulted in planetary destruction, not them flying into it:
http://m673.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/galanphotos/brb_strike1.jpg.html?src=www&action=view&current=brb_strike1.jpg
http://m673.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/galanphotos/brb_strike2.jpg.html?src=www&action=view&current=brb_strike2.jpg

Lol, poor Hulk's so weak compared to Bill, dude needed assistance in planetary destruction. Zero swag.

I never said that you said that, but it's pretty obvious after reading through this thread. I'm not the one who has trouble dealing with facts to the point he makes up lies.


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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Please define the phrase physical nature and in what sense the Hulk's feat was more impressive.

Anyone who's read up on World Breaker Hulk can tell you that this incarnation of the Hulk has crossed over from pure muscle power only. If you want to ignore all the raw gamma energy and such, then that's fine but I'll adopt the same policy.

Look everybody, Morg and Surfer destroyed Celestial bodies with a casual headbutt:
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4205/silversurferannual07303ff4.jpg

Man, Silver Surfer/Morg are a lot stronger than those weaklings Hulk/Red She-Hulk.

Unfortunately Carver, I have the scans here and Bill impaling Stardust as they were nearing the planet was the force that resulted in planetary destruction, not them flying into it:
http://m673.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/galanphotos/brb_strike1.jpg.html?src=www&action=view&current=brb_strike1.jpg
http://m673.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/galanphotos/brb_strike2.jpg.html?src=www&action=view&current=brb_strike2.jpg

Lol, poor Hulk's so weak compared to Bill, dude needed assistance in planetary destruction. Zero swag.

I never said that you said that, but it's pretty obvious after reading through this thread. I'm not the one who has trouble dealing with facts to the point he makes up lies.

I already defined it for you...Hulk ripping a planet without touching it is more impressive...MUCH more impressive. Hulk energy had nothing to do with what he did in the dark dimension and if you have proof of this, please provide it.

Lol at you using Surfer and Morg using energy to lay waste a planet...good Job Rage.

The impact from Bill and Stardust colliding with the planet played a huge roll in the ft.

Who said Hulk needed assistance? Who even said that Hulk tried to lay waste to the planet? Didn't look like something he intentionally did.

If you never said that and I never said that the planet busting was the be all end all ft, why are we discussing this then? Your post wad boo boo.