Originally posted by CosmicComet
The Shadow Moon feat is well above planetary now that I have digested it more.Thanks to Biensala for some more info on the matter.
Him using his body as a high speed dumbbell is more than a planetary ft? WTF. If that's the case, what was Grey Hulk ft at that crack an asteroid twice the size of Earth?
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Seeing as a moon moving at the speed that it was moving at it is orders of magnitudes times above what it would take to pulverize a planet, absolutely.
The moon was moving though, it was being created right beside Earth iirc. You are getting the fts mixed up. How would you calculate this?
http://www.mynetimages.com/viewimage/fd94c647a7
Savage Hulk is fist fighting and their fight is destroying an "infinite" (key word, infinite) amount of dimensions.
Remember, its an infinite amount of dimensions that is getting wrecked by a fist fight with Hulk but think about the size of dimensions as well.
Originally posted by Galan007So destroying probes that are only powerful enough to destroy a state when they explode, with punches is more impressive than throwing punches that cause shock waves powerful enough to destroy a planet? Interesting.
Your low-balling makes me literally lol. EVERY character (sans DD) that beat a Probe was significantly amped--yet none of them beat a Probe (let alone SEVERAL) as effortlessly as Doomsday did. He was literally one-shotting them.Think.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I wasn't talking about you specifically but just skimming through this thread, it's clear that Hulk destroying that planet was an incredibly big deal and probably the main reason why you think he wins.If by in a completely different manner you mean it was more impressive because they accomplished the feat simply by cutting loose with their raw power, then yes, I agree.
That's not what happened at all. Why are you going to lie to me about Beta Ray Bill of all people? Bill grabbed Stardust weapon and the force of him striking the blade to impale the herald destroyed the planet.
Now that I think about it, Bill destroying the planet is a lot more impressive than Hulk because he did it solo.
Hey, if you can't handle discussing facts with me and have to run to Philo, then by all means go ahead. Not my style on picking on the weak anyways.
Rage i know that CArver is a clown but even you cant believe this stuff....Beta ray bills feat a lot more impressive? lol give me a freaking break.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Please define the phrase physical nature and in what sense the Hulk's feat was more impressive.Anyone who's read up on World Breaker Hulk can tell you that this incarnation of the Hulk has crossed over from pure muscle power only. If you want to ignore all the raw gamma energy and such, then that's fine but I'll adopt the same policy.
Look everybody, Morg and Surfer destroyed Celestial bodies with a casual headbutt:
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4205/silversurferannual07303ff4.jpgMan, Silver Surfer/Morg are a lot stronger than those weaklings Hulk/Red She-Hulk.
Unfortunately Carver, I have the scans here and Bill impaling Stardust as they were nearing the planet was the force that resulted in planetary destruction, not them flying into it:
http://m673.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/galanphotos/brb_strike1.jpg.html?src=www&action=view¤t=brb_strike1.jpg
http://m673.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/galanphotos/brb_strike2.jpg.html?src=www&action=view¤t=brb_strike2.jpgLol, poor Hulk's so weak compared to Bill, dude needed assistance in planetary destruction. Zero swag.
I never said that you said that, but it's pretty obvious after reading through this thread. I'm not the one who has trouble dealing with facts to the point he makes up lies.
The force when they are nearing the planet? You cant even show that that WAS a planet they hit and so had an atmosphere in the first place. We see Bill and stardust RAM into the object in a huge conflagration at high speeds. There is nothing to show that him hitting stardust as they were approaching the planet is what did it since right after he hits stardust WE see them ram into the planet. There is no proof whatsoever that it was his hitting stardust that caused it and really the panels display the contrary. Further Surfer and Morg destroyed a planet via energy attack (the feat was not physical at all) is rather irrelevant to the impressiveness or not impressiveness of Hulks feat
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Also, I'm not trying to brush off anything, I'm just pointing out that characters like the Mindless Ones aren't consistently as powerful across the board. Otherwise I could just reference Thing/Blastaar (One of the two) owning a group of them and mock Hulk for being so unimpressive.I have to go to work now, please try and refrain from lying about shit.
Mindless ones have high and low feat yes but in that arc we KNOW that Umar would not have survived them without the Hulk which indicates they were operating at quite a high level of physicality. Thus Bringing up Thing/Blastaar against them would be rather irrelevant and would NOT prove anything