Originally posted by -Pr-Yeah, people seem to [selectively] forget that Betty had an equal role in Hulk's 'world breaking' feat. Hell, she was there stalemating him the entire time.
Remember, Hulk had help after all, even if people like to forget that.
...And I don't see Betty nearly killing Darkseid with 4 punches, but that's just me. /shrug
Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, people seem to [selectively] forget that Betty had an equal role in Hulk's 'world breaking' feat. Hell, she was there stalemating him the entire time....And I don't see Betty nearly killing Darkseid with 4 punches, but that's just me. /shrug
I was talking about the asteroid thing, but yes, that too.
Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, people seem to [selectively] forget that Betty had an equal role in Hulk's 'world breaking' feat. Hell, she was there stalemating him the entire time....And I don't see Betty nearly killing Darkseid with 4 punches, but that's just me. /shrug
I don't see Darkseid and Doomsday punching each other melting Heralds and beings that survive and walk around in Neutron stars as a daily job.
Originally posted by carver9
If you all can't see the significant gap in strength with these people then something is seriously wrong or you are clearly lowballing.
Originally posted by carver9
I don't see Darkseid and Doomsday punching each other melting Heralds and beings that survive and walk around in Neutron stars as a daily job.
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Originally posted by carver9You've got to get over this 'collateral damage pwns ALL' idea you've got stuck in your head. Like I mentioned earlier: Sodam Yat TANKED a planet-busting(++) explosion at ground zero. He TANKED multiple blasts from Anti-Monitor. However, neither of those massive durability feats stopped Superboy Prime from beating the ever-loving shit out of him -AFTER he received a HUGE amp-, without destroying so much as a single city (let alone an entire planet) in the process.
I don't see Darkseid and Doomsday punching each other melting Heralds and beings that survive and walk around in Neutron stars as a daily job.
Point: just because we don't see Prime's punches 'melting teh heraldz' doesn't mean he isn't powerful enough to kill beings with that type of durability. Same goes with Doomsday.
What's not computing?
^What Carver (despite it being Carver) just mentioned is valid no matter how you slice it. Collateral damage to the environment and what not only goes so far and is certainly not the only indicator of power since different writers use different power indicators but what we have here is MORE than just environmental damage and so your examples fall flat. In this case we have a case of actual characters being involved and annihilating them as sideffects is much greater than doing the same when actually hitting them. Trying to conflate the two and pretend like their is not a clear difference is silly.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Just to point out the irony.
But the truth though...then the punching power was consistent throughout the comic.
Sending Heralds flying from the shockwaves.
High tier beings can't even get close to them because of the might from their fist.
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk9.jpg
The gap of strength is enormous. It's debatable if HP is as strong as WWH. I can't see Doomsday taking an amped Rulk out with a thunderclap, can you?
Originally posted by carver9
But the truth though...then the punching power was consistent throughout the comic.Sending Heralds flying from the shockwaves.
High tier beings can't even get close to them because of the might from their fist.
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk9.jpg
The gap of strength is enormous. It's debatable if HP is as strong as WWH. I can't see Doomsday taking an amped Rulk out with a thunderclap, can you?
Your claims don't change the irony of your earlier post.
and, your heralds don't equate to Doomsday. Or Darkseid for that matter.
Originally posted by Galan007
You've got to get over this 'collateral damage pwns ALL' idea you've got stuck in your head. Like I mentioned earlier: Sodam Yat TANKED a planet-busting(++) explosion at ground zero. He TANKED multiple blasts from Anti-Monitor. However, neither of those massive durability feats stopped Superboy Prime from beating the ever-loving shit out of him -AFTER he received a HUGE amp-, without destroying so much as a single city (let alone an entire planet) in the process.
srslyPoint: just because we don't see Prime's punches 'melting teh heraldz' doesn't mean he isn't powerful enough to kill beings with that type of durability. Same goes with Doomsday.
What's not computing?
You are missing the point. Can Superboy Prime punch Superman and kill every member of the Teen Titans as a side effect.? No, it ain't happening. This is what I am trying to get clear here. I understand you 200% but the power behind one punch from Hulk is pretty much above anything I have seen Prime do in a fist fight. Prime higher showers involves collateral damage, his punching power against opponents isn't that amazing.
Originally posted by Naija boyCertainly you're not directing this post toward me..? If so, you must have missed my point.
^What Carver (despite it being Carver) just mentioned is valid no matter how you slice it. Collateral damage to the environment and what not only goes so far and is certainly not the only indicator of power since different writers use different power indicators but what we have here is MORE than just environmental damage and so your examples fall flat. In this case we have a case of actual characters being involved and annihilating them as sideffects is much greater than doing the same when actually hitting them. Trying to conflate the two and pretend like their is not a clear difference is silly.
Originally posted by carver9😂 @ you still FAILING to recognize that it was a SHARED feat between Hulk and Betty.
You are missing the point. Can Superboy Prime punch Superman and kill every member of the Teen Titans as a side effect.? No, it ain't happening. This is what I am trying to get clear here. I understand you 200% but the power behind one punch from Hulk is pretty much above anything I have seen Prime do in a fist fight. Prime higher showers involves collateral damage, his punching power against opponents isn't that amazing.
Originally posted by Naija boyApparently not. Hulk alone did not 'melt teh heraldz'. Hulk+Betty did. 🙂
^It was directed at you and no I got your point pretty well.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Your claims don't change the irony of your earlier post.and, your heralds don't equate to Doomsday. Or Darkseid for that matter.
I agree but Doomsday and Darkseid isn't running through Wendigo and Bi Beast in a fist fight either unless we focus on their lower showings. The two have consistently fought against Savage Hulk and done well...I would put Savage Hulk strength around Doomsday and Darkseid level.
Originally posted by Galan007
😂 @ you still FAILING to recognize that it was a SHARED feat between Hulk and Betty.Apparently not. Hulk alone did not 'melt teh heraldz'. Hulk+Betty did. 🙂
You can split the ft in half and it would still be more impressive imo. Prime has shown nothing to make me suggest that if he collided with another Prime, they would kill off some heralds with mere shockwaves. What punching fts of Prime are you basing this off of?
