Cosmic Cube Thanos vs Chaos King

Originally posted by leonidas
the battle lasted nearly the full book. the tp battle was intended to show they were close--were g so much more powerful, why not get out of tp and just kill him? the headbutt was just.....the most idiotic thing i've ever seen in any battle. ever. imo the writer did intend to show the gap between the 2 was small, though g was the more powerful. put g in a different state of hunger, or put odin in asgard, and i wouldn't be at all surprised to see odin win that battle. meh, i guess it depends on your definition of close.

Galactus that just got released from Annihilus' machinery one shotted a Watcher, yet Odin held out for multiple issues.

@bran--that's why i've never really liked quasar. 😄

Originally posted by zopzop

Unless I'm mistaken, it lasted multiple books no? It took like 2 or 3 issues for the battle to resolve itself in Galactus' favor.

Based on #5 one can argue that they were pretty close in power. Based on the #6, one can argue that Galactus was indisputably more powerful of the 2.

Anyways, the truly impressive feat for Odin in this battle(apart from the headbutt 😛), is him penetrating Galactus' mind when Oblivion described Galactus as being tp-proof in the Thor Annual.

Originally posted by zopzop

You ain't seen nothing yet! Get ready to hate him even more :

That's Quasar shielding mourners at Eon's funeral from a blast by Thanos with the IG!

Originally posted by zopzop

Unless I'm mistaken, it lasted multiple books no? It took like 2 or 3 issues for the battle to resolve itself in Galactus' favor. That's a HUGE showing for Odin considering the stuff Galactus has done recently.

Galactus that just got released from Annihilus' machinery one shotted a Watcher, yet Odin held out for multiple issues.

You ain't seen nothing yet! Get ready to hate him even more :

That's Quasar shielding mourners at Eon's funeral from a blast by Thanos with the IG! 😆 [/B]

oh, i know all about quasar. i have the series in its entirety. weird. not even sure why. i liked some of the earlier stuff, but some of the later stuff really kinda sucked imo. used to be i'd collect about anything.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
The battle began in Mighty Thor 5 and ended in Mighty Thor 6. The latter of which began with an unconscious Odin summoning and animating the Destroyer in order to match up against Galactus.

Based on #5 one can argue that they were pretty close in power. Based on the #6, one can argue that Galactus was [b]indisputably more powerful of the 2.

Anyways, the truly impressive feat for Odin in this battle(apart from the headbutt 😛), is him penetrating Galactus' mind when Oblivion described Galactus as being tp-proof in the Thor Annual. [/B]

I agree with most of what you said GK... The only corrections I would make it they didn't seem close at all in 5.. That was basically a mind battle.. not a battle of power. Sure I would clarify that by saying.. Odin seemed like he was in Galactus' league or close enough in re: TP.

Also, I don't even think that was THAT impressive... Thanos seemed to be closer to raping Big G's mind than Odin was.

^Which is exactly what I stated: based on #5 one could try to make an argument that they were close in power. #6 portrayed Galactus as the indisputable superior of the 2.

Iirc, Thanos required Moondragon's assistance in penetrating G's mind, and he was repelled out once G got serious. Odin was overwhelmed via a war of attrition of sorts. Which one is more impressive, I'll let the onlookers decide.
Edit: Not to mention that Galactus was described as being more or less tp-proof in a thor comic not long after the Odin battle, unlike the Thanos showing which as far as I recall, didn't indicate the magnitude of Thanos' shared feat by hyping up Galactus' telepathic defenses from a high-level Abstract of the multiverse.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
^Which is exactly what I stated: based on #5 one could try to make an argument that they were close in power. #6 portrayed Galactus as the indisputable superior of the 2.

Iirc, Thanos required Moondragon's assistance in penetrating G's mind, and he was repelled out once G got serious. Odin was overwhelmed via a war of attrition of sorts. Which one is more impressive, I'll let the onlookers decide.
Edit: Not to mention that Galactus was described as being more or less tp-proof in a thor comic not long after the Odin battle, unlike the Thanos showing which as far as I recall, didn't indicate the magnitude of Thanos' shared feat by hyping up Galactus' telepathic defenses from a high-level Abstract of the multiverse.

Again though, you keep using close in "power" in 5.. I would again say, you could make an argument they looked close in TP.

Moondragon simply set up the astral plane for them to talk and battle if need be. She wasn't involved in the mind rape portion of the fight.

I for one would be cautious to try and compare the Thanos incident with the Odin incident because the encounter is based on two different scenarios, atleast imo.

Originally posted by Utrigita
I for one would be cautious to try and compare the Thanos incident with the Odin incident because the encounter is based on two different scenarios, atleast imo.

Last man standing vs Galactus Engine, holding off four Mad Celestials (till they merged), laughing in the face of a Kree Nega Bomb, destroying a galaxy while not at 100% health (because of Annihilus), facing off against BOTH Scrier and the Other (even though we couldn't really gauge their true power level), etc...

It looks like his stock has risen sharply and I say this as someone who is NOT a big fan of Galactus.

the 'there is a great disparity' is a line of argument i can't quite follow. imo the intent of the tp battle was to show that the 2 were indeed meant to be close in terms of power. the battle also took place in space, AWAY from odin's source and seat of power. again, if g was that much more powerful, (and no one has ever done to him what odin did in tp battle) he should have broken off the tp assault and taken odin out immediately. the length of the battle alone to me tells me that odin was given massive props. factor in the idea he was away from asgard and i think the intent was pretty clear. at least imo. g was the more powerful (at least given the battlefield) but odin's showing was more than respectable and g did not trounce him by any stretch of the imagination. the headbutt CERTAINLY hurt him--quite badly. he simply had more reserves to draw upon at the time and so was able to heal himself. odin also seemed able to heal himself imo, just that instead he sent his anima into the destroyer. i really wish that battle had gone down....

Originally posted by leonidas
the 'there is a great disparity' is a line of argument i can't quite follow. imo the intent of the tp battle was to show that the 2 were indeed meant to be close in terms of power. the battle also took place in space, AWAY from odin's source and seat of power. again, if g was that much more powerful, (and no one has ever done to him what odin did in tp battle) he should have broken off the tp assault and taken odin out immediately. the length of the battle alone to me tells me that odin was given massive props. factor in the idea he was away from asgard and i think the intent was pretty clear. at least imo. g was the more powerful (at least given the battlefield) but odin's showing was more than respectable and g did not trounce him by any stretch of the imagination. the headbutt CERTAINLY hurt him--quite badly. he simply had more reserves to draw upon at the time and so was able to heal himself. odin also seemed able to heal himself imo, just that instead he sent his anima into the destroyer. i really wish that battle had gone down....

Yep and it lead me to believe that Galactus at his typical levels would have been wasted by Rune King Thor. A point that I made in the past, but couldn't be seen due to hierarchical tier pegging that has plagued the minds of many comic readers.

Originally posted by leonidas
the 'there is a great disparity' is a line of argument i can't quite follow. imo the intent of the tp battle was to show that the 2 were indeed meant to be close in terms of power. the battle also took place in space, AWAY from odin's source and seat of power. again, if g was that much more powerful, (and no one has ever done to him what odin did in tp battle) he should have broken off the tp assault and taken odin out immediately. the length of the battle alone to me tells me that odin was given massive props. factor in the idea he was away from asgard and i think the intent was pretty clear. at least imo. g was the more powerful (at least given the battlefield) but odin's showing was more than respectable and g did not trounce him by any stretch of the imagination. the headbutt CERTAINLY hurt him--quite badly. he simply had more reserves to draw upon at the time and so was able to heal himself. odin also seemed able to heal himself imo, just that instead he sent his anima into the destroyer. i really wish that battle had gone down....

If this was directed towards me Leo, if not disregard, I'll just like to point out that, the battle between Odin and Galactus wasn't at all what I was addressing but rather people trying to compare Galactus vs Thanos and Galactus vs Odin, something I think based on the context in each situation isn't a valid approach.

Originally posted by leonidas
the battle also took place in space, AWAY from odin's source and seat of power.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Again though, you keep using close in "power" in 5.. I would again say, you could make an argument they looked close in TP.

Moondragon simply set up the astral plane for them to talk and battle if need be. She wasn't involved in the mind rape portion of the fight.

They were different scenarios, and back then Galactus wasn't described as being tp-proof by one of the top Abstracts of the multiverse in a later arc.

Originally posted by zopzop
I'll one up you and say I'd be cautious of comparing incidents because of how Galactus has been portrayed since then :

Last man standing vs Galactus Engine, holding off four Mad Celestials (till they merged), laughing in the face of a Kree Nega Bomb, destroying a galaxy while not at 100% health (because of Annihilus), facing off against BOTH Scrier and the Other (even though we couldn't really gauge their true power level), etc...

It looks like his stock has risen sharply and I say this as someone who is NOT a big fan of Galactus.

Originally posted by Utrigita
If this was directed towards me Leo, if not disregard, I'll just like to point out that, the battle between Odin and Galactus wasn't at all what I was addressing but rather people trying to compare Galactus vs Thanos and Galactus vs Odin, something I think based on the context in each situation isn't a valid approach.

that wasn't meant for you u, not at all. i'd just seen a couple people express the idea that they thought the way the battle was shown was clearly depicted g as far above odin. always amazes me in the forum how people can see things so completely differently. part of what makes this place fun and, at times, infinitely frustrating! 😂

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
It was Asgard-space.

ah, you're right. pologies. wasn't meant to be misleading. for some reason i always think it was normal space--maybe cuz there's never been as asgard space battle? least not that i recall. i wonder though--had they been fighting in asgard itself (like odin fought thanos and surtur) if things would have had reason to maybe be depicted differently? maybe not. still, it was an odd choice of bf imo.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Now all that we need is Galactus one-shotting the Starbrand in order to complete the list. 🙂

Originally posted by leonidas
ah, you're right. pologies. wasn't meant to be misleading. for some reason i always think it was normal space--maybe cuz there's never been as asgard space battle? least not that i recall. i wonder though--had they been fighting in asgard itself (like odin fought thanos and surtur) if things would have had reason to maybe be depicted differently? maybe not. still, it was an odd choice of bf imo.

Anyways, Odin feeling the need to animate the Destroyer in order to hang with Galactus physically tells me that the Destroyer is his trump card when going up against cosmic heavyweights like Galactus and the Celestials, and depending on the writer, it can be anything from very effective to useless. Fraction shied away from going the traditional route of portraying omnipotentVSomnipotent fights so I don't know how Mighty Thor # 6 would have ended had they continued the fight.

Under Kieron Gillen though, Odin-Destroyer could be a tough opponent for Galactus, and would probably waste any Celestial short of Exitar or the like. At least that's the impression I got of the way Gillen treats Celestials, from Uncanny X-Men.

Originally posted by zopzop
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On another note, I doubt that Odin automatically gets amped in Asgard the way Mephisto or Cyttorak do in their native realms. Sure he can harness the magical power flowing within Asgardians and their land, but that doesn't prove a relation similar to Asgard like a Hell-Lord's to their native realm. If that is what you're implying Leo, by asking what would the outcome would've been had the battle been set in Asgard.

All I have to say is if G puts his hands on Odin like he did that mad Celestial or like he did Inbetweener it's game over.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Now all that we need is Galactus one-shotting the Starbrand in order to complete the list. 🙂

Originally posted by zopzop
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Well if Mjolnir can manage to do this and Thor can tank a Starbrand blast (along with Cap and Tony), it shouldn't be that hard for G.

😛