Originally posted by leonidas
that wasn't meant for you u, not at all. i'd just seen a couple people express the idea that they thought the way the battle was shown was clearly depicted g as far above odin. always amazes me in the forum how people can see things so completely differently. part of what makes this place fun and, at times, infinitely frustrating! 😂
Agreed 😄
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
On another note, I doubt that Odin automatically gets amped in Asgard the way Mephisto or Cyttorak do in their native realms. Sure he can harness the magical power flowing within Asgardians and their land, but that doesn't prove a relation similar to Asgard like a Hell-Lord's to their native realm. If that is what you're implying Leo, by asking what would the outcome would've been had the battle been set in Asgard.
i'm not sure about that. i've argued the exact same thing in the past, but it was intimated in certain places that odin's powers on earth aren't as great, so clearly he has some attachment to asgard itself. he can also draw on the life force of the asgardians like you mentioned and the land. not sure he could have done so, or how easily, being where he was. maybe could have, but i think a battle in asgard proper could well have been depicted--justifiably--a little differently. i do think we agree about where odin sits--at least relatively--to galactus.
Originally posted by leonidas
i'm not sure about that. i've argued the exact same thing in the past, but it was intimated in certain places that odin's powers on earth aren't as great, so clearly he has some attachment to asgard itself. he can also draw on the life force of the asgardians like you mentioned and the land. not sure he could have done so, or how easily, being where he was. maybe could have, but i think a battle in asgard proper could well have been depicted--justifiably--a little differently. i do think we agree about where odin sits--at least relatively--to galactus.
Originally posted by zopzop
Yeah, but by that logic, what's stopping Galactus from devouring Asgard like he would have devoured Mephisto's hell if Mephisto didn't relent?
well, i'd guess odin himself would stop him. he is more powerful than mephisto, so maybe he could just not allow it. g didn't absorb aggomotto's realm either. speculation, of course. and it's likely as probable that g COULD absorb asgard. but there were a lot of asgardians present as well as odin himself. had he tried, odin could have simply called on the destroyer armor.
Originally posted by leonidas
well, i'd guess odin himself would stop him. he is more powerful than mephisto, so maybe he could just not allow it. g didn't absorb aggomotto's realm either. speculation, of course. and it's likely as probable that g COULD absorb asgard. but there were a lot of asgardians present as well as odin himself. had he tried, odin could have simply called on the destroyer armor.
As we've seen, Galactus' stock has risen sharply in the recent years (and I gave some examples).
I don't think Odin is more powerful in his realm than Mephisto is in his Hell. A recurring theme in Marvel comics is that Hell Lords are more or less supreme in their own kingdom.
If Mephisto in his Hell couldn't stop Galactus from attempting to devour Hell, then I don't think Odin would be more successful.
But like I've said, different writers depict characters differently (duh 😛), so who knows?
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Mephisto/ssjd596qq.jpg
Read the words, and keep in mind this is a Galactus who was stopped from feeding right before
Mephisto being serious has some really ridiculous showings.
Originally posted by Galan007
Odin in Asgard is more powerful than Mephisto in Hell, you think?
well, mephisto was in hell during that arc where he had odin's soul and he didn't seem to be too thrilled about possibly meeting up with odin at some point iirc. and he certainly wouldn't travel to asgard, so....shrug
and true, the meph/g battle threatened the universe, but....what about odin/seth? even odin/surtur? even in the recent fear arc, the devils were pretty intimidated by the serpent. to me it has seemed for a long time that odin was intended to represent a class just above the devils. even dormmy appeared to be more powerful than meph while meph was in hell. and i've always thought odin/dormmy equals.
all that of course is to simply say....who knows. 😂 especially nowadays. thanos/odin was a poor showing for odin, but meph/ss was a poor showing for meph at one point. meph's highs are higher in hell (read: retcon feat) than odin's are in asgard, though he lost to adam with the soul gem and odin did stop thor with the power gem. probably unfair comparison, so, meh.
and meh, again. call it my generalized opinion based on looking at the overall histories while knowing someone could make a strong case for meph being stronger in hell.
Originally posted by leonidas
i'm not sure about that. i've argued the exact same thing in the past, but it was intimated in certain places that odin's powers on earth aren't as great, so clearly he has some attachment to asgard itself. he can also draw on the life force of the asgardians like you mentioned and the land. not sure he could have done so, or how easily, being where he was. maybe could have, but i think a battle in asgard proper could well have been depicted--justifiably--a little differently. i do think we agree about where odin sits--at least relatively--to galactus.
Galactus has a pretty variable power level, wherein one world can sometimes satiate him for quite a while, while on other occasions he just becomes hungrier after every meal(like he was before the battle with Mephisto). Plus, after feeding on an Old-Power world, instead of getting satisfied for the next 100000 years as projected, he became addicted to it.
Galactus isn't a good measuring stick imo, for comparing omnipotent characters to each other.
Originally posted by leonidas
all that of course is to simply say....who knows. 😂 especially nowadays. thanos/odin was a poor showing for odin, but meph/ss was a poor showing for meph at one point. meph's highs are higher in hell (read: retcon feat) than odin's are in asgard, though he lost to adam with the soul gem and odin did stop thor with the power gem. probably unfair comparison, so, meh. [/B]
It's not that unfair a comparison when you think about how Thor basically "cleared" hell and then beat Mephisto 😄
Originally posted by Sundipped
All I have to say is if G puts his hands on Odin like he did that mad Celestial or like he did Inbetweener it's game over.Well if Mjolnir can manage to do this and Thor can tank a Starbrand blast (along with Cap and Tony), it shouldn't be that hard for G.
😛
Where would thor rank in destructive power?
