Cosmic Cube Thanos vs Chaos King

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Originally posted by Bouboumaster
How could it be, since Galactus was the very first being of the universe, along Death and Eternity?

I mean, the dude was there before the uniserve was created, so...

its his gigantic teeth that makes em older than g

😛

its silly writing

Originally posted by guy222
its his gigantic teeth that makes em older than g

😛

its silly writing

Lol...

Seriously, IMO, Greg Pak is able of both the best and the worst. Basically, he's like Jeph Loeb.

great point

loeb will make nova a cosmic force

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Lol...

Seriously, IMO, Greg Pak is able of both the best and the worst. Basically, he's like Jeph Loeb.

Pak's capable of one good story. Planet Hulk.

Originally posted by guy222
great point

loeb will make nova a cosmic force

By jobbing everyone else out

yeppers

same as demogorge during incredible herc run

Originally posted by Mr Master
So did Oblivion according to the same type of information.

The Infinity Being, which is supposed to be the previous Universe,
never had a beginning, always was ... so ...

... I don't know where these cats are pre-dating from. 😬

The only room for either of them is the nothingness before the first Big Bang,
which created current Eternity/Infinity & formed Galactus.

If they wanna share that spot that's fine.

Only problem is, that spot's been reached at-least 4 times on panel,
and neither of them were of any significance.

If they are the nothingness embodied
where Thanos/Genis-Entropy-Rick-Epiphany/Sise-Neg & AE-Reed reached,
then it's a pointless status/power to be/have since said characters were just fine
and in control within said nothingness.

... and in fact and indeed did re-create all reality without interruption or problem.

You could say Oblivion got retconned into being created just like Eternity,Infinity and Death.Chaos King on the other hand seems to be a combination of Oblivion and Entropy.Chaos King is regarded as the Darkness and Chaos that existed before creation.Nothingness in the sense that preceeded everything.Now on to the Entropy part, If we remember Entropy, the abstract entity that was convinced to create thus becoming the new Eternity.Chaos King on the other hand has no choice.Remember what Athena said in CW#4?Existence would emerge again and get it right this time.Athena was using CK as a catalyst in order to change creation into whatever she wants.Hence CK getting booted out even if he did succeed in his objective in Chaos War.And the Abstracts like Eternity,Death,Infinity and Oblivion will just emerge again in the new Universe/Multiverse.Hence why Chaos King can also be viewed as an Entropy type character as well.

Originally posted by Igniz

You could say Oblivion got retconned into being created just like Eternity,Infinity and Death.
Chaos King on the other hand seems to be a combination of Oblivion and Entropy.


It's possible, but until further on panel and handbook supported info is provided by Marvel,
for me it's not fact.
Originally posted by Igniz

Chaos King is regarded as the Darkness and Chaos that existed before creation.

Nothingness in the sense that preceeded everything.


This is an on panel depiction of that very moment:

I know CK wasn't a character at this time (2006) but
imo, if anything, CK embodies this nothingness, (the only way it makes sense)
and Oblivion embodies the nothingness within reality after the Big Bang creates everything.

That's as far as I'll go retconning established Marvel continuity (on panel/handbooks)
with this CK business.

That aside ...

There's too many Concepts trying to or wanting to turn Eternity into chaos/unity/nothingess:

Entropy - Abraxas - Oblivion - Death - Bete Noir - Dweller in Darkness

and now Chaos King as well.

Originally posted by Igniz

Now on to the Entropy part, If we remember Entropy,
the abstract entity that was convinced to create thus becoming the new Eternity.

Chaos King on the other hand has no choice.Remember what Athena said in
CW#4?Existence would emerge again and get it right this time.Athena was using
CK as a catalyst in order to change creation into whatever she wants.Hence CK
getting booted out even if he did succeed in his objective in Chaos War.And the
Abstracts like Eternity,Death,Infinity and Oblivion will just emerge again in the new
Universe/Multiverse.Hence why Chaos King can also be viewed as an Entropy
type character as well.


I agree with your take on the Athena and CK scenario,
but Entropy wasn't really "convinced" ... he was reminded of his inevitable role.

Yes of course it's some dumb shit when humanoids are schooling an Abstract of its duties,
but I guess this is how writers PIS their way into explaining what's going on.

Let's just all agree that Greg Pak is an idiot who should never be allowed to write for Marvel again.

I wish Steve Englehart would publish some stories about cosmics and / or magical characters for Marvel again...

Marvel's abstract category is too convulted at this point.

Actually, apparently CK is merely an aspect of Oblivion. So does this mean Oblivion is way stronger than Eternity?

who knows

CK easily..the guy is Eternity level being..Thanos is nowhere near that level..

Thanos with a couple hours of prep almost killed Galactus add the cosmic cube is every wish he could make come true through reality warping. Thanos could possibly create a UN and kill CK

Originally posted by golem370
Thanos with a couple hours of prep almost killed Galactus add the cosmic cube is every wish he could make come true through reality warping. Thanos could possibly create a UN and kill CK

Galactus is nowhere near CK level of power either..and i don't think he can create the UN..he can't create something that is far more powerful than himself..

Not even with a Cosmic Cube's powers

Originally posted by golem370
Not even with a Cosmic Cube's powers

UN can destroy and recreate entire reality..i don't think a single CC can do that..i could be wrong thou..maybe someone with a bit more knowledge about CC can come in and explain..anyone??

Zeus amped by Chaos King raped galactus. Chaos king himself was absurdly powerful. I doubt eternity would have been able to stop him either.

I am not saying Galactus is as powerful as Chaos King I am saying that with Thanos' everyday powers and abilities he almost killed Galactus now add the power of a cosmic cube then he could do alot more.

CK was virtually an Infinity Gauntlet level power, and IMHO, IG >>>>>>>> CC.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Zeus amped by Chaos King raped galactus. Chaos king himself was absurdly powerful. I doubt eternity would have been able to stop him either.

That was a pretty hungry Galactus. As far as Eternity goes, the guy essentially admitted that striking against the CK would be like striking at himself since Mikaboshi embodied his dark half, so that point is moot. I doubt that he was more powerful than Eternity even after everything he'd devoured throughout the series.