Cosmic Cube Thanos vs Chaos King

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
That was a pretty hungry Galactus. As far as Eternity goes, the guy essentially admitted that striking against the CK would be like striking at himself since Mikaboshi embodied his dark half, so that point is moot. I doubt that he was more powerful than Eternity even after everything he'd devoured throughout the series.

being Eternity dark half already puts him above Galactus..and he was whoopin the guy who has enough power to restore 97% of the universe..that alone puts him way beyond Galactus level..

Eternity has been defeated by a cube before...

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
That was a pretty hungry Galactus. As far as Eternity goes, the guy essentially admitted that striking against the CK would be like striking at himself since Mikaboshi embodied his dark half, so that point is moot. I doubt that he was more powerful than Eternity even after everything he'd devoured throughout the series.

Oh yeah, he definitely wasn't at the levels he was against the celestials that's for sure, but it was still a pretty bad showing against one of CK's creations, and bodes very badly for him against CK himself.

My impression was that if he fought CK he'd be going down with him. Not that their power was the same so much. I can see it both ways though I suppose.

Thanos still stomps!

Originally posted by DTM

CK was virtually an Infinity Gauntlet level power,

Aside from ridiculous feats performed by single Cubes,
Thanos already replaced Eternity with one before.

Thanos wins. Cubes, in the right hands, have been know to threaten the entire OMNIVERSE.

Hey Master, question. Would you put Oblivion higher than Eternity on the cosmic scale? CK was an aspect of Oblvion, and that 1 aspect stalemated 616 Eternity.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Thanos still stomps!

naw ... not even close.

Aside from ridiculous feats performed by single Cubes,
Thanos already replaced Eternity with one before.

Chaos King (what a stupid name) loses because he doesn't exist. I refuse to believe it.

Depends on how much of the universe hes absorbed to regain his full power, but at best showings id say CK without a doubt.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Depends on how much of the universe hes absorbed to regain his full power, but at best showings id say CK without a doubt.

But you really think CK > Competent Cube Wielder? Thanos unseated Eternity with one just to impress his girlfriend 😛

Originally posted by zopzop
Woot welcome back GS! Happy New Year to you.

But you really think CK > Competent Cube Wielder? Thanos unseated Eternity with one just to impress his girlfriend 😛

What youve got to remember is that with the retcon the Cosmic Cubes were rendered between Galactus and top ranking Celestials in power.

The cubes were experiments of the race of Beyonders to study evolution, development and desire. The retcon states that interactions between the cubes and the universe were merely played along with or permitted by the Abstracts at the Beyonder race's request.

The "minute" power was allowed to interact with the universe on various occasions. The great power was allowed to be placed in mortal hands and the effects were allowed so that the Beyonders could observe and study.

All of the powers played along with the Beyonders' cube experiments-

As such, i would take caution with cosmic cube showings.

The cube beings themselves state that they are clearly and without a doubt below the Celestials

and yet you get the cube beings and the cubes doing universal scale stuff.

Confusing? Not really?

That is explained to:

In comics at least, there are differing levels of infinity. The scan uses the the example of there being infinite even numbers, infinite odd numbers, but both those infinite subsets are encompassed by whole numbers which covers both.

So the cubes may be able to destroy matter on a universal scale, but that doesnt put them up there with Eternity for example, its not simply the act of doing something, its how its done, the comparative ease, the execution etc.

There are levels of infinity.

In Mighty Thor recently you had Odin channeling and redirecting energies collected by Surtur sufficient to blow up the multiverse through Otherworlds connection to all realities:

and yet in the same series Odins been shown to be below Galactus. Such a feat doesnt suddenly propel Odin to Abstract level, he is still a skyfather, he is still below the cube beings, who are below the Celestials and Abstracts etc, however it demonstrates the point that he is in his own right infinite in power. He could pull off universal scale manipulations, reach out and do things which can be felt across the multiverse, however he could not do so as easily as someone higher in the hierarchy.

So to summarize, the cubes may be able to warp the matter of the entire universe, however we are told on panel, by their own admission and those of other cosmics that they are minor omnipotents, we are told their interactions with the universe were merely allowed for the purposes of knowledge so we cant use an instance where Thanos takes on Eternitys role as definitive proof of a cubes power level.

Eternity placed Chaos King on par with himself, the Chaos King consumed the majority of the universe. He was no permitted experiment, he was just THAT powerful.

Originally posted by zopzop
Woot welcome back GS! Happy New Year to you.

Happy New Year bro 🙂

Thanos unless CK kick the cube out of his hand.....

When a cosmic cube is retconned to being on par with the Abstracts as opposed to its current sub-Celestial power status, then Thanos with the Cosmic Cube stands a chance.

But what good are matter restructuring powers against a consumer of reality, a black nothingness against which powers and energies have been shown to have no effect and are just absorbed.

Cubes are by canon below Celestials in power.

Chaos King is regarded by Eternity to be his equal in power and he proved it by consuming most of 616 before being tricked NOT overpowered. There was no known way to defeat him bar a creation event/Big Bang which reduces him to a god/Amatsu-Mikaboshi level.

Originally posted by Estacado
Thanos unless CK kick the cube out of his hand.....

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It's not that good Imo...

Thanos still stomps.

😆 ... at Cubes being allowed to rape Eternity,
or compress the Omniverse. I guess when they create Universes,
or re-arrange them,
or warp reality within RealitieS across Trans-Multiversal space-time,
they're supposedly being "allowed" therefore you know ... they're not exercising any power.

I don't know about yall, but the depths of bull shit have hit a new bottom.

"Abstracts played along" ... "All the powers played along with Beyonder"

My lord .. still 😂 over here.

PS. I guess mistress Death enjoys getting a taste of her own medicine:

Official Marvel Handbook ... Death's bio 2006 ...

What kind of game is this?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Thanos still stomps.

😆 ... at Cubes being allowed to rape Eternity,
or compress the Omniverse. I guess when they create Universes,
or re-arrange them,
or warp reality within RealitieS across Trans-Multiversal space-time,
they're supposedly being "allowed" therefore you know ... they're not exercising any power.

I don't know about yall, but the depths of bull shit have hit a new bottom.

"Abstracts played along" ... "All the powers played along with Beyonder"

My lord .. still 😂 over here.

PS. I guess mistress Death enjoys getting a taste of her own medicine:

Official Marvel Handbook ... Death's bio 2006 ...

What kind of game is this?

No game. Just exactly what we're told on panel.

If that does not fit in with your idea of the hierarchy, then go make some fan-fiction 🙂

Its stated on panel by LT and the Abstracts, even Kubik himself that the Cosmic Cube were permitted experiments, that the Beyonders wanted to study what less beings would do if great power was placed in their hands.

My last post on this matter above still holds strong.

The cubes/cube beings are considered by the Abstracts to be "minor omnipotents" cube beings themselves state that they are below the Celestials in power.

My scans in my previous posts above show Kubik explaining the point of differing levels of infinity. Something you fail to understand.

Your logic seems to be, if you can manipulate matter on a universal scale, if youre powerful enough to blow up a universe then youre Abstract level and likely greater than Eternity. WRONG

Just so this seeps into your head i will reiterate the example Kubik gave when explaining why he a cube being is nothing compared to a Celestial despite having infinite power and being able to create pocket dimensions etc

You have infinite even numbers.

You have infinite odd numbers.

Both of those infinite sets are encompassed by the greater category that is whole numbers.

So whilst beings like Odin, the Cube Beings, a fully powered Galactus. Elder Gods etc have practically infinite power and can effect matter on a universal scale, can do things which have multiversal effects, that does NOT make them abstract level.

If someone can manipulate matter on a universal scale, to create a universe it again does not necessarily place them on Abstract level.

It is all about the comparative ease with which these beings can pull off such feats.

Odin can manipulate energies powerful enough to blow up a universe, can unleash power that can be felt throughout the multiverse.

Can he do so to a greater extent than Cube Beings? ❌

Can they do so to a greater extent than Eternity? ❌

That is the very reason why the Beyonders had to make a request to the Abstracts, if they were so much greater in power it wouldve been more like The Infinites situation where they just came into 616 and did what they pleased manhandling Eternity without a thought.

If the Cube Beings say the power of the cubes is less than a Celestial then you must accept that.

Just because a Cube can manipulate universal scale matter does not mean a thing.

So can Odin and he is below Galactus.