Was not a fan of this movie. Everything about this movie reminds me of a Saturday morning cartoon (could be a good thing, I suppose, depending on who you are). The two leads had no chemistry at all and their romantic progression seems forced (and awkward) as hell. And yea it recycled ideas from lots of other movies.
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Jesus, I don't understand the negativity with this when people crowd Michael Bay shit in droves. It was great, but it also helped that I saw it on an amazing 3D IMAX screen and I'm a big sci-fi fan. But I stand by the fact that the Wachowskis are largely misunderstood.
Seriously. Visually and world-building wise, it was flat out incredible. Action was great. The technology was very clever. Captures a sense of scale nicely.
Plot wise? It was a bit of a romance story, except instead of Bella Swan there's someone much better than Bella Swan, and instead of Edward, you have someone better than Edward.
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I mean, you had Space Queen facing off with Prince Ass while Space Werewolf Boyfriend fought Captain Space Dragon, all taking part in a giant exploding factory inside a big hurricane in space while the Space Police in the Normandy try and get to them.
I suspect we'll have a cult classic ala Fifth Element.
Also had plenty of shades of Dune in it, and a bit of warhammer 40k and Mass Effect (the Aegis ship is Normandy-esque, and the Captain was pretty badass. Makes me want to play as Black Femshep).
Originally posted by Lestov16
The general consensus seems to be that this movie is a lazily-unoriginal and bland Star Wars clone with ideas ripped off from the Matrix amongst many other sources, a confusingly complex plot, and OTT hammy acting and dialogue. IOW, this movie sucks ass.
I think the disappoint more comes from it *not* being a Star Wars- or Guardians of the Galaxy- clone.
Female centric romance story in a baroque visually stunning space setting is way off from many people's expectations.
And the plot was pretty darn straightforward.
I will say I don't know if I'd have liked it as much if I went in with high expectations, but knowing going in 'romance focus, don't expect it to be a top SF film,' it actually positively surprised me some.
I don't think comparisons to Twilight are fair, despite Caine being spliced with something like a wolf. He never shape shifted or anything and this movie wasn't nearly as stupid and dreadfully bad as those movies. The action was great and it wasn't only romance. There is plenty of social commentary about corporate greed at the expense of the common people and the destruction of nature (ie planets and entire civilizations).
I thought it was fabulous. Don't understand what was disappointing. The Wachowskis have proven themselves to be just as savvy as the top CGI / action directors in the business... if not better, because they understand drama, character, and story.
Originally posted by Q99
Seriously. Visually and world-building wise, it was flat out incredible. Action was great. The technology was very clever. Captures a sense of scale nicely.
Precisely. The sense of scale to me was fantastic. Interstellar did not properly capture scale. It was directed in such a way as to completely negate the fantastic scale that it should have had. Jupiter Ascending had such amazing visuals to encapsulate the world building or perhaps more appropriate: universe building.
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Precisely. The sense of scale to me was fantastic. Interstellar did not properly capture scale. It was directed in such a way as to completely negate the fantastic scale that it should have had. Jupiter Ascending had such amazing visuals to encapsulate the world building or perhaps more appropriate: universe building.
And the scale is not only visual, but in dialog too.
A Captain has a throw-away line about losing two million people under her command in a battle.
In a lot of Space Opera who *don't* get scale, that's a "oh no, two million! That's so huge!" number. In a civilization with, at minimum, thousands of worlds, that's, well, a throw-away line, as it should be!
Worlds live and die, millions is a common-place number, and this is a Big and Old civilization.
Originally posted by Patient_LeechBecause Michael Bay films are shitty but fun.
Jesus, I don't understand the negativity with this when people crowd Michael Bay shit in droves. It was great, but it also helped that I saw it on an amazing 3D IMAX screen and I'm a big sci-fi fan. But I stand by the fact that the Wachowskis are largely misunderstood.
Haven't seen this one yet, but every trailer I've seen hints at it being melodramatic and ultra srs business- in which case its going to have to actually be a well made film in regards to plot, characterization, acting etc.
Originally posted by Tzeentch
Because Michael Bay films are shitty but fun.Haven't seen this one yet, but every trailer I've seen hints at it being melodramatic and ultra srs business- in which case its going to have to actually be a well made film in regards to plot, characterization, acting etc.
There are fun moments. The action's very good. There's a bureaucracy scene with Terry Gilliam making a cameo! The cops are awesome.
I mean, the characters are rather standard- Normal girl finds out she's heir to being space queen, hot badass guy, yadda yadda. They do the job, though, and the worldbuilding in the story is good.
It's doing solidly internationally.
Makes sense that it'd do well in Russian, what with a daughter of Russians main character. That and Russia having a big SF tradition.
Originally posted by Q99
It's doing solidly internationally.Makes sense that it'd do well in Russian, what with a daughter of Russians main character. That and Russia having a big SF tradition.
that prolly won;t be enough to not call this a total misfire, disaster flop, bomb, etc
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
that prolly won;t be enough to not call this a total misfire, disaster flop, bomb, etc
Yea. Though at least if it's worldwide total is above production costs it won't be as big of a one.
Trajectory-wise, it looks pretty similar to Fifth Element, the last weird original-property space opera. While I like them, I don't think weird setting space opera have enough public draw yet...
Originally posted by Q99
It's doing solidly internationally.Makes sense that it'd do well in Russian, what with a daughter of Russians main character. That and Russia having a big SF tradition.
I heard that Kunis wipes from back to front. Just what I heard