Originally posted by RobtardSo, in your opinion, if Magneto and Iron Man fight, and Magneto simply strips the armor away from Tony, that's not a win for Magneto?
They'd win, but not by defeating the Hulk. They can only make him go away.it's no different than if you and Nemebro where going to fight, but he calls the cops(something he'd do) and has you arrested for threatening his life and then declaring a 'fight victory'.
Originally posted by marwash22
So, in your opinion, if Magneto and Iron Man fight, and Magneto simply strips the armor away from Tony, that's not a win for Magneto?
Apples to Oranges. As the Hulk is essentially a separate entity to Banner and the IM Suit is more akin to a tool/weapon.
Also, Magneto doesn't have to strip away the armor to win, he can simply crush Tony in it.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Banner claimed Hulk can't die, he blew his brains out and survived, don't see a reason to doubt him. So stalemate it is.
I would think that the anxiety/excitement of trying to kill yourself is what turned him into Hulk right before he pulled the trigger. His fingers get fatter, so his fatty fingers would force the trigger to pull as he changed.
Originally posted by Robtardmy example is more valid than yours, in which you compare altering someone's physical state to calling the cops and not doing anything to the person at all.
Apples to Oranges. As the Hulk is essentially a separate entity to Banner and the IM Suit is more akin to a tool/weapon.Also, Magneto doesn't have to strip away the armor to win, he can simply crush Tony in it.
Originally posted by marwash22
my example is more valid than yours, in which you compare altering someone's physical state to calling the cops and not doing anything to the person at all.
In your scenario the twilight crew isn't doing anything to harm the Hulk, they're just making him go away and saying "win!". Just as Nemebro could only defeat you in a fight if he made you go away. See?
I also agreed they'd win here, but not by defeating the Hulk.
Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, no.In your scenario the twilight crew isn't doing anything to harm the Hulk, they're just making him go away and saying "win!". Just as Nemebro could only defeat you in a fight if he made you go away. See?
Then wouldn't that be more like a BFR (sort of) rather than calling for backup?
But if you want to eliminate Jasper's g@y magic ability, that's fine. I say do it for the sake of having a thread.
Hulk would not harm someone like Edward or that hottie Alice: they were shown being able to continuously dodge fighters that can figh super-humanly fast due to their "abilities". Based on feats, the twivamps are in Hulk's neighborhood of strength so I think the fight would play out similar to how Thor fought against Hulk.
Hulk did not seem to take much damage, if any at all, against Thor. This is why the fight doesn't really get anywhere.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Then wouldn't that be more like a BFR (sort of) rather than calling for backup?But if you want to eliminate Jasper's g@y magic ability, that's fine. I say do it for the sake of having a thread.
Hulk would not harm someone like Edward or that hottie Alice: they were shown being able to continuously dodge fighters that can figh super-humanly fast due to their "abilities". Based on feats, the twivamps are in Hulk's neighborhood of strength so I think the fight would play out similar to how Thor fought against Hulk.
Hulk did not seem to take much damage, if any at all, against Thor. This is why the fight doesn't really get anywhere.
Despite they're supposed blinking-like speeds, the "vampires" fight much slower, this is seen on multiple occasions when they face off against the wolf-boys. IMO, Hulk would tag them in time, if they're fighting at speeds shown.
I don't believe any one of the "vampires" showed Hulk-like strength. Maybe there's a feat I'm ignorant too?
When Thor hit Hulk in the face with Mjolnir it only managed to send him back, there was no visible damage as far as I recall.
Originally posted by Robtard
Despite they're supposed blinking-like speeds, the "vampires" fight much slower, this is seen on multiple occasions when they face off against the wolf-boys. IMO, Hulk would tag them in time, if they're fighting at speeds shown.
It doesn't work that way. We use them both at their best, not worst. Vamps fight like Flash. 🙂
Originally posted by Robtard
I don't believe any one of the "vampires" showed Hulk-like strength. Maybe there's a feat I'm ignorant too?
Easily calced Edward at hundreds of tonnes of force: in the ball-park of Hulk punching that behemoth.
Originally posted by Robtard
When Thor hit Hulk in the face with Mjolnir it only managed to send him back, there was no visible damage as far as I recall.
I agree, which is why it's kind of a stalemate.
Originally posted by dadudemon
It doesn't work that way. We use them both at their best, not worst. Vamps fight like Flash. 🙂Easily calced Edward at hundreds of tonnes of force: in the ball-park of Hulk punching that behemoth.
I agree, which is why it's kind of a stalemate.
The Flash now? Hahahahaaahahahaa.
If you're talking about Edward pushing a tree over, a bulldozer can do the exact same feat. Edward is no where near Hulk's ball-park, he's not even close enough to be teabagged.
Considering one has the ability to harm the other and the other can only essentially evade. It logically goes to Hulk.
Originally posted by Robtard
The Flash now? Hahahahaaahahahaa.
Yes. 🙂
Originally posted by Robtard
If you're talking about Edward pushing a tree over, a bulldozer can do the exact same feat. Edward is no where near Hulk's ball-park, he's not even close enough to be teabagged.
Sorry, sir, but this has been covered, scientifically, with a white-paper. It cannot be debated because it's SCIENCE. 🙂
No, I am not joking.
Originally posted by Robtard
Considering one has the ability to harm the other and the other can only essentially evade. It logically goes to Hulk.
No, considering Hulk does not have the speed to actually land a hit on most of the Twivamps, it goes to the vamps because they can eat/tear Hulk's flesh to shreds. 🙂
Originally posted by dadudemon
Yes. 🙂Sorry, sir, but this has been covered, scientifically, with a white-paper. It cannot be debated because it's SCIENCE. 🙂
No, I am not joking.
No, considering Hulk does not have the speed to actually land a hit on most of the Twivamps, it goes to the vamps because they can eat/tear Hulk's flesh to shreds. 🙂
And I continue my: Hahahhaaahahaa. Ha.
Sorry, but a bulldozer can knock over a tree as large as the one Edward pushed, this is a fact. So Edward's as powerful as a large bulldozer, if that's his best showing. Hulk > That.
They've not shown the power to get past Hulk's durability. Which includes the showings of high-calibre bullets to higher showings of being hit by Thor with Mjolnir. So they can only evade and pray Hulk never makes contact. Logical win to Hulk.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I would think that the anxiety/excitement of trying to kill yourself is what turned him into Hulk right before he pulled the trigger. His fingers get fatter, so his fatty fingers would force the trigger to pull as he changed.
Originally posted by Robtard
And I continue my: Hahahhaaahahaa. Ha.
And I continue to "hah" back at you.
Originally posted by Robtard
Sorry, but a bulldozer can knock over a tree as large (and larger) than the one Edward pushed, this is a fact. So Edward's as powerful as a large bulldozer, if that's his best showing. Hulk > That.
"hahahahahaha"
Sorry, but you have no idea what you're talking about.
At this point, you're obviously trolling. It is not up for debate. Deal with the fact that Edward is a 100+ Tonner. 🙂
Originally posted by Robtard
They've not shown the power to get past Hulk's durability.
They have. Already said how. We are not very far into this discussion and you're already forgetting where your points have been routed? Looks like you'll be getting a copy paste routine.
Originally posted by Robtard
Which includes the showings of high-calibre bullets to higher showings of being hit by Thor with Mjolnir. So they can only evade and pray Hulk never makes contact. Logical win to Hulk.
Fact: Vampires from Twilight are bullet-proof. 😐
Fact: Carlisle, the most knowledgeable and educated person on the planet said no human army could stand up against 20 New Born Vamps. 🙂
I agree that Hulk is strong enough to bust them up.
But how can he finish them unless he burns them?
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That assumes incorrectly that he can even connect with them: he won't.
Originally posted by dadudemon
And I continue to "hah" back at you."hahahahahaha"
Sorry, but you have no idea what you're talking about.
At this point, you're obviously trolling. It is not up for debate. Deal with the fact that Edward is a 100+ Tonner. 🙂
They have. Already said how. We are not very far into this discussion and you're already forgetting where your points have been routed? Looks like you'll be getting a copy paste routine.
Fact: Vampires from Twilight are bullet-proof. 😐
Fact: Carlisle, the most knowledgeable and educated person on the planet said no human army could stand up against 20 New Born Vamps. 🙂
I agree that Hulk is strong enough to bust them up.
But how can he finish them unless he burns them?
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That assumes incorrectly that he can even connect with them: he won't.
My haha's are grounded and backed though.
Sorry, bulldozers exist and they can knock down trees.
Considering I'm not arguing what Edward's range is, it's not for me to deal with. Just deal that his feat doesn't compare to what the Hulk has shown; not even close. But if someone is trolling here, it's likely you.
Your premise is flawed. Pushing tree strength doesn't = Harm the Hulk.
Yes, I'm aware they're bullet-proof, which is irrelevant. They're not Hulk proof.
Hulk has a chance though, even if it's ridiculously small. Small Chance > No Chance. Hulk wins by default.