Which is better: Avengers or The Dark Knight?

Started by The_Tempest19 pages

Better acted, yes. Better written? That's much tougher.

Whedon is wittier and far more entertaining, but pretty much runs at breakneck speed with little room for more somber, delicate scenes. Nolan's script is heavier and captures the gravity of the situation, but can be ponderous and boring.

I'm inclined to say it's a wash. Both have their strengths and both have their flaws.

But acting, yeah, I'd give it to TA all day. Ledger is the standout performance by far in TDK, everyone else is incessantly grim and one-note. Bale has all the depth of a contact lens. TA is a much stronger and more dynamic ensemble.

Watchmen.

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Story: DK
Acting: DK
Dialogue: Avengers
Action: Avengers

I'd say that Dark Knight is the "better" movie in terms of production, but I find Avengers more rewatchable.

TDK dragged at the end.....badly due to the Two-Face plot.

Avengers finished right were it was supposed to.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Story: DK
Acting: DK
Dialogue: Avengers
Action: Avengers

I'd say that Dark Knight is the "better" movie in terms of production, but I find Avengers more rewatchable.


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Avengers was a more rewatchable film.

This point alone makes it a better film.

Plus TDK rode on Ledger's back. Which was part of what made everybody "Lose their fricken minds!".

Originally posted by -Pr-
Story: DK
Acting: DK
Dialogue: Avengers
Action: Avengers

I'd say that Dark Knight is the "better" movie in terms of production, but I find Avengers more rewatchable.

Story: TDK
Acting: TA
Dialogue: TA by lightyears
Action: TDK? (This one's tough because I got bored with TA's last act after the first watch. TDK uses it more sparingly so I might actually give it the nod.)

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Action: TDK? (This one's tough because I got bored with TA's last act after the first watch. TDK uses it more sparingly so I might actually give it the nod.)

TDK flipped a truck.

Avengers had an attack on New York City by an invading army of militant super zombies.

No.

Originally posted by the ninjak
TDK flipped a truck.

Avengers had an attack on New York City by an invading army of militant super zombies.

No.

TA unquestionably had more action. But I was pretty much exhausted by it as the Battle of New York stretched on and on and on and on and on and on and on and there was no tension because the Big Bad was ineffective as a physical threat and the Chitauri were only dangerous because of Zerg Rushing.

TDK had a similarly ineffective Big Bad, but I wasn't exhausted by TDK's use of action.

Neither of them were particularly memorable for their action scenes, frankly. I would give Avengers the nod on action if only because its scenes were enhanced by Whendon's comedic timing.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Yeah kind of like it's just your opinion that Khan beats Yoda in a fight.

But your outvoted 46-3 which is the only FACT.

And btw if you account for inflation and 3d ticket sales, I'm not sure there is much difference in the financial success of TDK and Avengers.

Except Batman did so on his own. So perhaps Marvel are the ones who should be taking notes mhmm

A fictitious fight is subjective. I'm right. Avengers made more money than the Batman films. I am right again.

I am right on the subjective and the objective fronts.

Marvel is a well oiled machine crushing dc at the box office. 😂

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Please tell me you're joking. Please tell me that even you can't be this far gone into the world of tooney loons....Ugh, who am I kidding, you were deep in that territory the moment you were born. 😘
This is my opinion. You are another sheep. Think for yourself every once in a while you might like it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
A fictitious fight is subjective. I'm right.

It's actually pretty objective. Just look at the poll results 👆

Originally posted by quanchi112
Marvel is a well oiled machine crushing dc at the box office. 😂

Avengers didn't crush TDK at all when you account for inflation and 3d ticket prices. Despite Avengers starring many more superheroes and being more of a family movie.

You've been crushed in your own poll though 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is my opinion. You are another sheep. Think for yourself every once in a while you might like it.

The thing is that your opinion is usually always wrong. In your attempts to "stand out among the sheep", you do end up standing out...as one that has had all its wool removed.

Because, honestly speaking, only a complete moron, a tool, or an imbecilic troll would claim that the Dark Knight was the worst of the trilogy. Last I checked, you qualified in all 3 categories, so there.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
The thing is that your opinion is usually always wrong. In your attempts to "stand out among the sheep", you do end up standing out...as one that has had all its wool removed.

Because, honestly speaking, only a complete moron, a tool, or an imbecilic troll would claim that the Dark Knight was the worst of the trilogy. Last I checked, you qualified in all 3 categories, so there.

Batman begins was the best. Hands down. Third one was the second best. Dark knight was boring. Get over it.

I'm always right just like about whether or not Sookie used the super nova attack. I am also recently correct about the Potter franchise going back to the theaters. Are you ever correct about anything ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Batman begins was the best. Hands down. Third one was the second best. Dark knight was boring. Get over it.

I'm always right just like about whether or not Sookie used the super nova attack. I am also recently correct about the Potter franchise going back to the theaters. Are you ever correct about anything ?


Wrong. The trilogy as a whole consisted of high-quality films, but TDK was definitely the top of the tri-podium. Even if one doesn't think it was at the top, to claim that it was the worst of the trilogy is either public display of retardation or borderline trolling.

Lol, what the phuck does Sookie or the Harry Potter franchise(something I never even discussed with you) have anything to do with you being completely and utterly wrong in your opinion about TDK being the worst of the Nolan Batman Trilogy?

Originally posted by The_Tempest
lol seriously?

No, he's not. It is extremely rare to get a serious post from that guy. Argue about Star Wars: it gets serious responses (sometimes).

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
It's actually pretty objective. Just look at the poll results 👆

Avengers didn't crush TDK at all when you account for inflation and 3d ticket prices. Despite Avengers starring many more superheroes and being more of a family movie.

You've been crushed in your own poll though 😂

It is over a subjective topic. Do you not understand the word subjective ?

Quit making up excuses.

Avengers is at the top of the heap. Give into Despair, Batman.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Wrong. The trilogy as a whole consisted of high-quality films, but TDK was definitely the top of the tri-podium. Even if one doesn't think it was at the top, to claim that it was the worst of the trilogy is either public display of retardation or borderline trolling.

Lol, what the phuck does Sookie or the Harry Potter franchise(something I never even discussed with you) have anything to do with you being completely and utterly wrong in your opinion about TDK being the worst of the Nolan Batman Trilogy?

No, it was not. Only someone truly full of himself would claim an opinion to be a fact. Worst of the bunch. I was bored.

It has to do with me being right.

That is subjective but guess what that is my opinion, kiddo. Nothing you can do to change my mind so quit being insecure when someone disagrees with you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it was not. Only someone truly full of himself would claim an opinion to be a fact. Worst of the bunch. I was bored.

It certainly was. Only someone full of himself would claim that it was "worse of the bunch".
Originally posted by quanchi112

It has to do with me being right.

Then it has nothing to do with anything whatsoever, because you're usually never right.
Originally posted by quanchi112

That is subjective but guess what that is my opinion, kiddo. Nothing you can do to change my mind so quit being insecure when someone disagrees with you.

Concession accepted.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
It's actually pretty objective. Just look at the poll results 👆

Well, you're sort of correct. It could be an objective measure of a sample, of the current active KMC members of the Movie Discussion forum. And we need to define what that measure is: it is a measure of an opinion.

Since we have quite a few results in that sample and it is definitely greater than 30, we can determine whether or not a particular result is meaningful.

I can tell you, without doing the math, the difference between TDK and Avengers is so small that it is not statistically significant with a P-Value set to .05.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
It certainly was. Only someone full of himself would claim that it was "worse of the bunch".

Then it has nothing to do with anything whatsoever, because you're usually never right.

Concession accepted.

I am always right but again my opinion is my own. Just be content with your own opinion.

I did not concede. Batman Begns the best of the Batman bunch.