Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
I just showed you Masterson reacting to the real Gladiator though... and considering Masterson won... and Masterson is so much less impressive than real Thor...Also, me showing you a scene from which many Gladiator fans have shown before is akin to using a scene in which Gladiator goes into hyperspeed... something he's never done in 616? Sure thing Carter. That Gladiator was so much faster than 616 it's ridiculous. And he never showed any power advantage either over Thor which is even worse considering how much more impressive he was.
You want to see 616 Glads using his speed in a pissed off state?
http://i49.tinypic.com/24g81hk.jpghttp://i48.tinypic.com/6hp9bl.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/m1oh4.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/16lemn4.jpgAnd yes, there was speedlines in both sets. Add that in with Masterson reacting to him, and you have a guy fully in Thor's range to react to.
You really want to go into high feat mode with Thor? No, let's play that ****ing game.
Let's mix it up though, let's show durability in here too.
Taking shots from Maxam and Drax with the PG:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorDurability32469Blunt.jpgTakes a blast from Surfer:
http://s388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/?action=view¤t=ThorvsSilverSurfer19MightyThor5.jpgTakes a board throw from Surfer:
http://s388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/?action=view¤t=ThorvsSilverSurfer15.jpgAnd I bet you know why both of these are relevant don't you? It's because a weaker Surfer has taken out Savage Hulk with attacks, while it barely caused Thor any damage at all.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/SurfervsHulk3.jpghttp://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/SurfervsHulk02.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/SurfervsHulk03.jpgLet's move onto output, shall we? Keep in mind, none of these beings has a weakness to magic like Gladiator does.
Dents Surfer's head:
http://s388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/?action=view¤t=ThorvsSilverSurfer11MightyThor3.jpgOne shots upgraded Thing:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/fi5oroboroscps012.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/231/fi5oroboroscps013.jpg/Manages to hurt Galactus:
http://s388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/?action=view¤t=ThorvsSilverSurfer17.jpgAnd here:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsGalactus02.jpgBeats Ego:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsEgo04.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsEgo05.jpgDamages Celestials and since it works as durability too...
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsCelestials01300.jpgKnocks out Drax with the Power Gem:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsInfinityWatch01469.jpgKnocks it out of him:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsInfinityWatch06.jpgAnd I'm going to stop there. That's all that's needed for now, but know that there is many many more feats of this type of shit. Look at how pathetic Gladiator's high feats look against that. Sad really.
Yes Carver, that is going to happen though just because they never fought, we don't know... but it could!
Except none of those people are on Thor's level, and even Masterson showed that was just him holding back later on.Plus, the Masterson case was before the magic weakness as well. You add in the magic weakness, and how hard Thor is able to hit... seriously, terrible odds for Glads. Yes he overcame the magic, but it effected him still. Add in the serious magic of Thor and how hard the guy hits? There is no way he's going to simply overcome it like so.
You're playing the "He might be able to shrug it off" case against one of the bigger hitters in Marvel. Thor is your favorite character, you should know how futile this is. If you honestly think that's a possibility then you know nothing of both characters. Simply put.
Strength and durability edge? Even so, Thor went against Kurse who's 4 times stronger than him and ended the battle like so:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsKurse05486.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsKurse06.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsKurse07.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsKurse08488.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsKurse09.jpgYou think any sort of strength advantage Gladiator might have won't be offset by the massive hitting power of Mjolnir or something? You think durability is going to matter when Thor hits as hard as I've shown.
Also, funny at the Phoenix comment. Comparable opponents doesn't turn out well for Gladiator either.
Thor's never been beaten as bad against Hulk as Glads has.
A mind controlled Thor came out unharmed against Nova. Same can't be said for the opposite.
Thor actually beat Black Bolt, where as Glads has been KO'ed by him, stalemated, and needed help against him.
And Thor was never knocked absolutely silly against Masterson.And half of Thor's fights aren't losses either.
Lol at you using scans of a fatigued Gladiator that j"ust got through running through an entire elite army" as some type of evidence. He was fatigued for one...
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/190/86433487.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/218/52609522.jpg/
...and he underestimated his opponent, and again, this happened after taken on an entire army of super humans.
Lol at you bringing up Thor fight against Kurse when in a previous fight before this, in the same comic, Thor couldn't even drop a holding back Hulk...
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%208/1.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%208/2.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%208/3.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%208/4.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%208/5.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%208/6.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%208/7.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%208/8.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%208/9.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%208/10.jpg
Holding back Hulk >>>Kurse.
Gladiator always had the magic weakness (which was shown during the Masterson fight)...it was just made plain and clear recently though through a quote.
Uuuummm, Gladiator lost to Hulk via weakness exploiting...Thor got 3 shotted by Hulk and went limp.
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/1.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/2.jpg
Slowly, painfully he rises.
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/3.jpg
I wonder what would have happened if Hulk landed 1 more blow.? Thor even admits in the same scan that Hulk is stronger than him...DAMN.
I agree with you, out of every Herald, Thor does have the best fts of energy display and should be able to drop any of them with his best but its not happening here though, they fight in character.
You displaying Gladiator low showings, especially with the elder, a being that was empowered by an entire race isn't helping your argument either...especially since I have fts of Gladiator punching the hell out of him and I can also low ball like you and show the numerous of times Thor glass jaw has failed him in the past couple of months. Thor face has seen more dirt than any Herald I can think of and it has been by people that doesn't even have that many fts.
Now let's see if you care or not to respond to my post.
Originally posted by carver9
Yes, atmoshperic environments...something that can pull on you while flying.
Vulcan flew from Earth to the Shiar empire in a week which is a FTL ft.http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/RespectThread/Vulcan/fights/random/fight%201/1.jpg
Vulcan flies so fast that the stars around him becomes a blur.
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/RespectThread/Vulcan/fights/random/fight%202/2.jpg
I can also show Vulcan flying past planets in no time. The point is, he is a light speedster in space.
Let's look at what happens with all these light speed fts.
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/Imperial%20Guard/Kallark-ReacttoBullet.jpg
He was unable to react to a sniper bullet. Thats why I'm not impressed by space flight. There are others showings like this as well from other characters that has flown through space at light but I think you get the point.
Warned.
I can't believe you still try to pull this shit.
Uuuummm, Gladiator lost to Hulk via weakness exploiting...
such a bold faced lie deserves a warning of itself..... i've showed the scan many times--glads was DRAGGED, barely conscious THEN tossed into the reactor core. where the idea of weakness exploitation comes from i will NEVER know. he got his sh!t kicked in and the reactor has NO part in it. at all.
WITHOUT a reactor to torture him with, hulk would likely have just beaten him to death and there was nothing at all glads could do to stop him
I wouldn't go that far. His own heat vision took him out since it couldn't burn through Hulk's hand (inexplicably, as it was burning through his chest just fine), and the feed back knocked Gladiator out (also, inexplicably). From that point forward Hulk dominated an unconscious Gladiatior, but while he was conscious Gladiator was making a good showing of it. Hulk's main offense was the thunderclap that deafened Glads momentarially and they both fell to earth from re-entry (as Gladiator was taking Hulk to space to kill him), and jumping on Gladiator when he wasn't looking because he was arrogant enough to think he'd one-shotted Hulk. Hulk eventually won, but that was a circumstantial win if I ever did see one, particularly considering how fast Gladiator is, how much Hulk weighs, and how long it would normally take Gladiator to get from the ground to space (which would be faster than the time it would take for Hulk to realize what was happening, and clap Gladiator's head, while internally monologuing).
All things in comics are plotted. Calling PIS on anything is a paradox since everything is PIS (Plot Induced Situations).
Originally posted by leonidas
such a bold faced lie deserves a warning of itself..... i've showed the scan many times--glads was DRAGGED, barely conscious THEN tossed into the reactor core. where the idea of weakness exploitation comes from i will NEVER know. he got his sh!t kicked in and the reactor has NO part in it. at all.WITHOUT a reactor to torture him with, hulk would likely have just beaten him to death and there was nothing at all glads could do to stop him
If you can't debate me without trying to throw someone under the bus, then don't reply to my post.
As for your comment, Gladiator own heat vision backfired on him which was the reason Hulk found out about his radiation weakness...
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsGladiator05.jpg
This is clearly PIS (even though I think Hulk could beat Gladiator) since Gladiator heat vision has never damaged him before but again, on panel, it was stated that Gladiator radiation from his eye blast damaged him which resulted in Hulk finding more radiation to dip Gladiator in.
All on panel buddy.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk opwned Gladiator in those scans with his own hvision.
I agree. Gladiator isn't the only one Hulk has owned either. At least Gladiator didnt admit he fears Hulk.
Originally posted by carver9After that beating he should fear the Hulk.
I agree. Gladiator isn't the only one Hulk has owned either. At least Gladiator didnt admit he fears Hulk.
Thanos overpowered him on panel. He ordered him around. He slapped him on another occasion.
If anything he doesn't respect the Hulk. Your reading comprehension fails.
