Originally posted by leonidas
i agree with one part--glads made a pretty good show of it--and he SHOULD have. he's legit mid herald. i don't see it as circumstantial at all though. glads used his speed, strength and vision powers--none were enough.
Don't think he really used his speed tbh. Unless you count flying him off into space. A trip that was taking 3 seconds, so couldn't even have been that fast.
And Hulk did seem to cheap shot him twice. Three times if you include the thunderclap to the ears.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Don't think he really used his speed tbh. Unless you count flying him off into space.
i do count that as that is a pretty typical showing for glads' speed. he bltized hulk before hulk could react and carried him into space. not a bad feat tbh, and fully in character. hulk can and has reacted to speed in the past. carver's spent hours telling people hulk has superspeed so hulk's evertual reaction is ALSO in character...... 🙂
Originally posted by leonidas
i do count that as that is a pretty typical showing for glads' speed. he bltized hulk before hulk could react and carried him into space. not a bad feat tbh, and fully in character. hulk can and has reacted to speed in the past. carver's spent hours telling people hulk has superspeed so hulk's evertual reaction is ALSO in character...... 🙂
Hulk might just barely be super sonic in speed. But I don't think there's any evidence to suggest he's anywhere close to LS.
So it makes sense he could hit guys like Classic Quicksilver (who topped at the speed of sound).
Anyway Glads didn't use his speed to evade Hulk even hitting him, like Surfer has done.
Originally posted by leonidasThat was Mindless Hulk and he was dying so his chest being burned through after prolonged and focused barrage makes sense to me. As for why his hands weren't burned through, I'd chalk it up to far less exposure to his heat vision. He was on top of Glads by thenn after all.
i agree with one part--glads made a pretty good show of it--and he SHOULD have. he's legit mid herald. i don't see it as circumstantial at all though. glads used his speed, strength and vision powers--none were enough. he was arrogant and fought in character. it did burn through hulk's chest, but it was burning through his hand too--i always figured it was the bone that stopped complete burn through. but, hulk has withstood massive temps and energy of all type before. i always thought it a little odd the vision burned through him as quickly and easily as it did so, meh, as you say, pis is paradoxical.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERGladiator has taken supreme off a planet and deep into space. Supreme is a known light speedster and can strike at light speed. Yet hulk is somehow now faster than supreme? Leo will use lowshowings as always claiming that gladiator used strength, speed and heat vision as if he struck hulk like he struck that planet or how he unloaded on cannonball or how he smoked spaceknight armor with his heat vision. you can try and tell certain people that a character is far far faster than shown but they turn a blind eye to the many scans of said character moving at beyond light speed or carrying things such as spaceships the size of texas out of thors sight super fast.
Don't think he really used his speed tbh. Unless you count flying him off into space. A trip that was taking 3 seconds, so couldn't even have been that fast.And Hulk did seem to cheap shot him twice. Three times if you include the thunderclap to the ears.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankNo. There is a code that has been established that the writers have to go by that forces them to let the hero win every time in the end genius. Try doing research and learn how comics work.
And Gladiator had no reason to hold back in either scenario. But it still wasn't fast enough!And the writers have it in for Glads and conspire against him anyway.
The Comics Code is the set of guidelines for comic book content in America following the 1954 publication of Dr. Fredric Wertham's book, "Seduction of the Innocent." All comics after that time needed to be 'Approved by the Comics Code Authority', as follows:
Standards of the Comics Code Authority for editorial matter as originally adopted.
Code For Editorial Matter
General Standards Part A:
1) Crimes shall never be presented in such a way as to create sympathy for the criminal, to promote distrust of the forces of law and justice, or to inspire others with a desire to imitate criminals.
2) No comics shall explicitly present the unique details and methods of a crime.
3) Policemen, judges, government officials, and respected institutions shall never be presented in such a way as to create disrespect for established authority.
4) If crime is depicted it shall be as a sordid and unpleasant activity.
5) Criminals shall not be presented so as to be rendered glamorous or to occupy a position which creates the desire for emulation.
6) In every instance good shall triumph over evil and the criminal punished for his misdeeds.
7) Scenes of excessive violence shall be prohibited. Scenes of brutal torture, excessive and unnecessary knife and gun play, physical agony, gory and gruesome crime shall be eliminated.
8) No unique or unusual methods of concealing weapons shall be shown.
9) Instances of law enforcement officers dying as a result of a criminal's activities should be discouraged.
10) The crime of kidnapping shall never be portrayed in any detail, nor shall any profit accrue to the abductor or kidnapper. The criminal or the kidnapper must be punished in every case.
11) The letters of the word "crime" on a comics magazine shall never be appreciably greater than the other words contained in the title. The word "crime" shall never appear alone on a cover.
12) Restraint in the use of the word "crime" in titles or subtitles shall be exercised.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Hulk might just barely be super sonic in speed. But I don't think there's any evidence to suggest he's anywhere close to LS.So it makes sense he could hit guys like Classic Quicksilver (who topped at the speed of sound).
Anyway Glads didn't use his speed to evade Hulk even hitting him, like Surfer has done.
no, you're right in that sense, but by the same token, as i said, he did fight in character so again, i don't really have any issue with the way he was depicted. out of 10 fights, glads might use his speed in the manner you're describing a couple times (a fraction similar to the fraction he does so in books) but he still has to ko hulk. i don't see him LS combatting him into a win before hulk gets a chance to react at all though. hulk's too durable, and glads doesn't use that type of attack almost ever. but you're certainly welcome to your opinion.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
That was Mindless Hulk and he was dying so his chest being burned through after prolonged and focused barrage makes sense to me. As for why his hands weren't burned through, I'd chalk it up to far less exposure to his heat vision. He was on top of Glads by thenn after all.
sure, i can buy that as reasonable. 👆
Originally posted by leonidasLOL. But Zod who has zero bfr feats can bfr graviton and blitz toss Kurse into the ocean huh? All before they know what happens huh.lol. WOW!
no, you're right in that sense, but by the same token, as i said, he did fight in character so again, i don't really have any issue with the way he was depicted. out of 10 fights, glads might use his speed in the manner you're describing a couple times (a fraction similar to the fraction he does so in books) but he still has to ko hulk. i don't see him LS combatting him into a win before hulk gets a chance to react at all though. hulk's too durable, and glads doesn't use that type of attack almost ever. but you're certainly welcome to your opinion.
Originally posted by leonidas
no, you're right in that sense, but by the same token, as i said, he did fight in character so again, i don't really have any issue with the way he was depicted. out of 10 fights, glads might use his speed in the manner you're describing a couple times (a fraction similar to the fraction he does so in books) but he still has to ko hulk. i don't see him LS combatting him into a win before hulk gets a chance to react at all though. hulk's too durable, and glads doesn't use that type of attack almost ever. but you're certainly welcome to your opinion.
Oh I'm not one to say Gladiator will beat Hulk in 0.5 seconds due to his speed. I go by examples given to us in comics, like Surfer using his speed to evade all Hulk's attacks. Or Superman getting more hits on Thor than vice versa again due to his speed advantage.
But Hulk's still a beast of unmatched ever increasing strength and still incredibly difficult to take out.
I was merely responding to you saying Glads used his speed in that fight against Hulk. I don't think he did really. Even the attempted Bfr was clearly not at his top speed.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankGood, now read and learn why the hero wins. lol. PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO 5 AND 6.
lol, I like how people *cough*country1000 and Carter*cough* conveniently forget that Gladiator attacked Jake Olsen first and took a hostage because he was too cowardly to fight Thor straight up.I also like how they conveniently forget that Thor was holding back the majority of the fight and after they saved the plane from crashing - due to Gladiator's idiocy - Thor pummeled him into oblivion. Unfortunately, some of us actually have the comic itself on hand.
Gladiator literally had the entire plot working in his favor and couldn't beat Thor. He attacked Thor's mortal vessel, took Mandy as a hostage, temporarily disarmed him and exploited a weakness which no longer applies to current Thor, and still failed to achieve his goal, which was to kill Thor. But, yeah, Gladiator didn't use his speed to maximum potential so he was jobbing and he wasn't fully confident or some other lame ass excuse.
Oh, well, at least Gladiator agrees when he's outmatched.
The Comics Code is the set of guidelines for comic book content in America following the 1954 publication of Dr. Fredric Wertham's book, "Seduction of the Innocent." All comics after that time needed to be 'Approved by the Comics Code Authority', as follows:
Standards of the Comics Code Authority for editorial matter as originally adopted.
Code For Editorial Matter
General Standards Part A:
1) Crimes shall never be presented in such a way as to create sympathy for the criminal, to promote distrust of the forces of law and justice, or to inspire others with a desire to imitate criminals.
2) No comics shall explicitly present the unique details and methods of a crime.
3) Policemen, judges, government officials, and respected institutions shall never be presented in such a way as to create disrespect for established authority.
4) If crime is depicted it shall be as a sordid and unpleasant activity.
5) Criminals shall not be presented so as to be rendered glamorous or to occupy a position which creates the desire for emulation.
6) In every instance good shall triumph over evil and the criminal punished for his misdeeds.
7) Scenes of excessive violence shall be prohibited. Scenes of brutal torture, excessive and unnecessary knife and gun play, physical agony, gory and gruesome crime shall be eliminated.
8) No unique or unusual methods of concealing weapons shall be shown.
9) Instances of law enforcement officers dying as a result of a criminal's activities should be discouraged.
10) The crime of kidnapping shall never be portrayed in any detail, nor shall any profit accrue to the abductor or kidnapper. The criminal or the kidnapper must be punished in every case.
11) The letters of the word "crime" on a comics magazine shall never be appreciably greater than the other words contained in the title. The word "crime" shall never appear alone on a cover.
12) Restraint in the use of the word "crime" in titles or subtitles shall be exercised.
Originally posted by country1000
Good, now read and learn why the hero wins. lol. PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO 5 AND 6.The Comics Code is the set of guidelines for comic book content in America following the 1954 publication of Dr. Fredric Wertham's book, "Seduction of the Innocent." All comics after that time needed to be 'Approved by the Comics Code Authority', as follows:
Standards of the Comics Code Authority for editorial matter as originally adopted.
Code For Editorial MatterGeneral Standards Part A:
1) Crimes shall never be presented in such a way as to create sympathy for the criminal, to promote distrust of the forces of law and justice, or to inspire others with a desire to imitate criminals.
2) No comics shall explicitly present the unique details and methods of a crime.
3) Policemen, judges, government officials, and respected institutions shall never be presented in such a way as to create disrespect for established authority.
4) If crime is depicted it shall be as a sordid and unpleasant activity.
5) Criminals shall not be presented so as to be rendered glamorous or to occupy a position which creates the desire for emulation.
6) In every instance good shall triumph over evil and the criminal punished for his misdeeds.
7) Scenes of excessive violence shall be prohibited. Scenes of brutal torture, excessive and unnecessary knife and gun play, physical agony, gory and gruesome crime shall be eliminated.
8) No unique or unusual methods of concealing weapons shall be shown.
9) Instances of law enforcement officers dying as a result of a criminal's activities should be discouraged.
10) The crime of kidnapping shall never be portrayed in any detail, nor shall any profit accrue to the abductor or kidnapper. The criminal or the kidnapper must be punished in every case.
11) The letters of the word "crime" on a comics magazine shall never be appreciably greater than the other words contained in the title. The word "crime" shall never appear alone on a cover.
12) Restraint in the use of the word "crime" in titles or subtitles shall be exercised.