Originally posted by Sr J-BiebGladiator is not the hero in those fights, he was trying to kill thor. Do you think that would be allowed by CCA????. He has the speed, strength and powerset to kill thor, but he was in essence the bad guy trying to kill a known hero. The hero HAS protection from the CCA.... JUSUS CHRIST!!!!! my 6 year old understand that. CHRIST!!!
Gladiator is a criminal who does crime.Also, you must not read comics at all.
Originally posted by country1000So basically, the hero is never allowed to lose in comics? Heroes via invincible.
Gladiator is not the hero in those fights, he was trying to kill thor. Do you think that would be allowed by CCA????. He has the speed, strength and powerset to kill thor, but he was in essence the bad guy trying to kill a known hero. The hero HAS protection from the CCA.... JUSUS CHRIST!!!!! my 6 year old understand that. CHRIST!!!
So pretty much when Thanos brutally kills a bunch of heroes, or when Thanos destroys the universe... that was non canon since it wasn't allowed? Not even non canon, but it never actually happened in a comic book.
Or when Invisible Man gets raped to death in comics by Mr Hyde...
Originally posted by Sr J-BiebThanos will lose in the end. The hero or heros get bounced around, then they make a dramatic come-back and win. THAT IS THE LAW OF COMICS that was set by the CCA.
So basically, the hero is never allowed to lose in comics? Heroes via invincible.So pretty much when Thanos brutally kills a bunch of heroes, or when Thanos destroys the universe... that was non canon since it wasn't allowed? Not even non canon, but it never actually happened in a comic book.
Or when Invisible Man gets raped to death in comics by Mr Hyde...
Originally posted by country1000Thanos lost to another villian, and when he killed everyone he didn't lose at all.
Thanos will lose in the end. The hero or heros get bounced around, then they make a dramatic come-back and win. THAT IS THE LAW OF COMICS that was set by the CCA.
Gladiator can't even accomplish a win in a meaningless arc. Even Dr Doom can beat up Hulk effortlessly with no consequences. Black Adam can slaughter dozens of heroes while only being defeated due to changing his magic word which he got back with really no consequences, a random c level Deviant can beat Thor twice without losing, Mr Hyde can rape Invisible Man to death, Dr Doom can take over the world and give it up because he's bored, an Evil Spectre can kill a bunch of magic users, and "lose" only because God summoned him to a host, but for some reason villians can't win in comics?
What a ****ing awful excuse for Gladiator when this only applies to people like him and Rhino.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
So basically, the hero is never allowed to lose in comics? Heroes via invincible.So pretty much when Thanos brutally kills a bunch of heroes, or when Thanos destroys the universe... that was non canon since it wasn't allowed? Not even non canon, but it never actually happened in a comic book.
Or when Invisible Man gets raped to death in comics by Mr Hyde...
yeah, pretty much. but the best part of the whole thing is of course that gladiator IS an f'n hero so the whole code asininity (as if it wasn't the single stupidest argument ever raised in the history of the forum) is completely meaningless!! 😆
Originally posted by leonidasGladiator via getting slaughtered in The End when he was defending the Shi'ar
yeah, pretty much. but the best part of the whole thing is of course that gladiator IS an f'n hero so the whole code asininity (as if it wasn't the single stupidest argument ever raised in the history of the forum) is completely meaningless!! 😆
Originally posted by leonidasGladiator was trying to kill thor the HERO in all their fights moron. Gladiator does not have his own comic like thor the hero. Your posts and beliefs are the stupidest things i have ever seen on KMC. The hero MUST win, was gladiator the HERO when he tried to kill thor??? Your meaningless rants vs a well established CCA ruling??? LMAO.
yeah, pretty much. but the best part of the whole thing is of course that gladiator IS an f'n hero so the whole code asininity (as if it wasn't the single stupidest argument ever raised in the history of the forum) is completely meaningless!! 😆
Originally posted by country1000
No. There is a code that has been established that the writers have to go by that forces them to let the hero win every time in the end genius. Try doing research and learn how comics work.The Comics Code is the set of guidelines for comic book content in America following the 1954 publication of Dr. Fredric Wertham's book, "Seduction of the Innocent." All comics after that time needed to be 'Approved by the Comics Code Authority', as follows:
Standards of the Comics Code Authority for editorial matter as originally adopted.
Code For Editorial MatterGeneral Standards Part A:
1) Crimes shall never be presented in such a way as to create sympathy for the criminal, to promote distrust of the forces of law and justice, or to inspire others with a desire to imitate criminals.
2) No comics shall explicitly present the unique details and methods of a crime.
3) Policemen, judges, government officials, and respected institutions shall never be presented in such a way as to create disrespect for established authority.
4) If crime is depicted it shall be as a sordid and unpleasant activity.
5) Criminals shall not be presented so as to be rendered glamorous or to occupy a position which creates the desire for emulation.
6) In every instance good shall triumph over evil and the criminal punished for his misdeeds.
7) Scenes of excessive violence shall be prohibited. Scenes of brutal torture, excessive and unnecessary knife and gun play, physical agony, gory and gruesome crime shall be eliminated.
8) No unique or unusual methods of concealing weapons shall be shown.
9) Instances of law enforcement officers dying as a result of a criminal's activities should be discouraged.
10) The crime of kidnapping shall never be portrayed in any detail, nor shall any profit accrue to the abductor or kidnapper. The criminal or the kidnapper must be punished in every case.
11) The letters of the word "crime" on a comics magazine shall never be appreciably greater than the other words contained in the title. The word "crime" shall never appear alone on a cover.
12) Restraint in the use of the word "crime" in titles or subtitles shall be exercised.
Things you should know why using the Comics Code Authority is now useless in your argument.
1.The Gladiator from an alternate future was trying to kill Thor because of the horrible alternate future he came from.So basically, he was trying to prevent a future that has Thor as a douchebag ruler of the world.If anything, that Gladiator is presented as a hero and not a villain.
2.Marvel in 2001 no longer uses the Comics Code of Authority and enforces its own rating system.The Gladiator from the alternate future appeared in Thor Vol 2 #33 dated March 2001.Again, making your argument of the CCA as an excuse to say why Thor beat Gladiator as null and void.
Originally posted by country1000Except you couldn't answer my post before hand, so...
Concession accepted.
Originally posted by IgnizNice.
Things you should know why using the Comics Code Authority is now useless in your argument.1.The Gladiator from an alternate future was trying to kill Thor because of the horrible alternate future he came from.So basically, he was trying to prevent a future that has Thor as a douchebag ruler of the world.If anything, that Gladiator is presented as a hero and not a villain.
2.Marvel in 2001 no longer uses the Comics Code of Authority and enforces its own rating system.The Gladiator from the alternate future appeared in Thor Vol 2 #33 dated March 2001.Again, making your argument of the CCA as an excuse to say why Thor beat Gladiator as null and void.
Originally posted by IgnizMarvel has not changed those guidelines as stated by their system. They broke away so that they could set up age group guidelines so that they could appeal to children from the age of 9 all the way up to adults. The hero must win clause is still in effect. Now Marvel can have someone cut someone in half and then stamp ages teen to adult on the comic to protect their ass.
Things you should know why using the Comics Code Authority is now useless in your argument.1.The Gladiator from an alternate future was trying to kill Thor because of the horrible alternate future he came from.So basically, he was trying to prevent a future that has Thor as a douchebag ruler of the world.If anything, that Gladiator is presented as a hero and not a villain.
2.Marvel in 2001 no longer uses the Comics Code of Authority and enforces its own rating system.The Gladiator from the alternate future appeared in Thor Vol 2 #33 dated March 2001.Again, making your argument of the CCA as an excuse to say why Thor beat Gladiator as null and void.
Originally posted by country1000After a very quick Google search, this is all comics under Marvel have to adhere to:
Marvel has not changed those guidelines as stated by their system. They broke away so that they could set up age group guidelines so that they could appeal to children from the age of 9 all the way up to adults. The hero must win clause is still in effect. Now Marvel can have someone cut someone in half and then stamp ages teen to adult on the comic to protect their ass.
ALL AGES - appropriate for all ages.
A - Appropriate for age 9 and up.
T+ TEENS AND UP - Appropriate for most readers 13 and up, parents are advised that they might want to read before or with younger children.
PARENTAL ADVISORY - 15 years and older. Similar to T+ but featuring more mature themes and/or more graphic imagery.
MAX: EXPLICIT CONTENT - 18 years old. Most Mature Readers books will fall under the MAX comics banner (created specifically for mature content titles), MAX and Mature-themed titles will continue to be designed to appear distinct from mainline Marvel titles, with the "MAX: Explicit Content" label very prominent on the cover. MAX titles will not be sold on the newsstand, and they will not be marketed to younger readers.
Plus, I also found this too.
In 1970, at the request of the Nixon administration, Marvel Comics published a Spider-Man story with an anti-drug message, portraying Spider-Man's friend Harry Osborn becoming addicted to otherwise unidentified "pills"[4]. The Code, at the time, forbade any depiction of illegal drug use, even a negative portrayal. The Code refused to approve the story, and Marvel published it anyway, with no repercussions. The Code was revised to allow anti-drug messages. Some months later, DC Comics published a much stronger anti-drug story in Green Lantern/Green Arrow, portraying Green Arrow's sidekick Speedy as an actual heroin addict, including depictions of hypodermic needles[5], which was published with Code approval. It was gradually relaxed over the years, to allow anti-drug stories, horror themes, and more adult sexual themes. Over a decade later, DC published an Alan Moore written Swamp Thing comic entitled "The Curse" (dealing with menstruation), which DC bravely put out without Comics Code review. The lack of code approval went almost completely unnoticed, though Swamp Thing was largely targeted at a mature audience, anyway. Further decisions by major publishers to not bother with code approval, coupled with the shift from newsstand distribution to comic book shops, led to the Code becoming a meaningless entity.[6]
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Comics_Code_Authority
Not that that any of this needs to be disproven to anyone with a brain, but your only point has been utterly defeated, so really, terrible.
Does it not bother you that for all the accounts you create on this site only have you being humiliated time and time again? I know you think of the excuse of "trolling" as covering for that, but I bet it doesn't feel that way to feel so inadequate deep down no matter how many times you think you were "only trolling". And it obviously matters if you feel the need to keep switching IPs, and making email accounts.
Originally posted by country1000
Gladiator was trying to kill thor the HERO in all their fights moron. Gladiator does not have his own comic like thor the hero. Your posts and beliefs are the stupidest things i have ever seen on KMC. The hero MUST win, was gladiator the HERO when he tried to kill thor??? Your meaningless rants vs a well established CCA ruling??? LMAO.
Oh yeah I see what you mean. Kind of like when Gladiator attacked the Fantastic Four in their own comic but he just couldn't beat them up due to the comic code.
He couldn't beat The Thing or The Human Torch or The Invisible Woman or Mr. Fantastic. Because they were all heroes, so that's why they all beat on him one by one.
Originally posted by Sr J-BiebDo you not understand that marvel has kept the hero must win clause because they dont want kids to think that bad is over good??? Your post only proves my point. They now rate comics as you have shown, not change the hero win thing, nice of you to own yourself fella.Thanks.
After a very quick Google search, this is all comics under Marvel have to adhere to:ALL AGES - appropriate for all ages.
A - Appropriate for age 9 and up.
T+ TEENS AND UP - Appropriate for most readers 13 and up, parents are advised that they might want to read before or with younger children.
PARENTAL ADVISORY - 15 years and older. Similar to T+ but featuring more mature themes and/or more graphic imagery.
MAX: EXPLICIT CONTENT - 18 years old. Most Mature Readers books will fall under the MAX comics banner (created specifically for mature content titles), MAX and Mature-themed titles will continue to be designed to appear distinct from mainline Marvel titles, with the "MAX: Explicit Content" label very prominent on the cover. MAX titles will not be sold on the newsstand, and they will not be marketed to younger readers.Plus, I also found this too.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Comics_Code_Authority
Not that that any of this needs to be disproven to anyone with a brain, but your only point has been utterly defeated, so really, terrible.
Does it not bother you that for all the accounts you create on this site only have you being humiliated time and time again? I know you think of the excuse of "trolling" as covering for that, but I bet it doesn't feel that way to feel so inadequate deep down no matter how many times you think you were "only trolling". And it obviously matters if you feel the need to keep switching IPs, and making email accounts.