Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well, your Marwan facing reaction remains speculation: As Marwan didn't/couldn't man up and Face McClane.
The only thing McClane faces is the oral he gives Marwan
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Which is doubley moot anyways, as that is off topic.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Nope. DH 4 feats more or less solo by themselves.
EVERYTHING Jack did on Day 6 more or less solo by themself, considering he was recovering from 20 consecutive months of torture
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
So you'd have had Bauer take on Hans and his guys when they had their meeting with Takagi?
Yes, because screen feats prove he can
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
He'd have been NAILED...!!!
Bauer gotten into how many gunfights compared to McClane? How many times has he been shot compared to McClane?
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Remember that they were way better shots than the guys that Bauer faced
No
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
particularly Karl, who at one point shot McClane
The fact that McClane allowed this to happen to him does not speak well of him
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
(Naturally McClane went on like the champ he is and proceeded to boss the joint.)
You mean "boss the joint", like the stuff that Jack does on an hourly basis? Yeah, real impressive
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
He was stressed about not ever seeing his family again.
LOL. Only the weak cannon-fodder non-professional on 24 do that, and it usually ends up costing them their lives. Like I stated, McClane's working on 24 time, and in 24, taking time to lament your family=Time for a terrorist to detonate a nuke because you didn't move fast enough
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Of course, Bauer never even cared? 🙄
Because he's a professional who knows what he's doing and often leaps directly into situations knowing full well he could die, but does it regardless to save lives, unlike McClane who has to be trapped in the building for him to intervene
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Karl was machine Gunning through that vent and all the bullets missed McClane. "His wings are like a shield of steel"..
Nothing Bauer couldn't do, since he's good at evading bullets (even better than McClane) and has proven feats in which he sneakily crawls through ventilation shafts to rescue hostages
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
McClane always moves at exactly the right speed at which it is required that one moves at in order to save good guys and violate the badguys horribly, with time left for witty quips to be committed too..
Bauer does all of that too.....on an hourly basis. Thus McClane=Unimpressive
Originally posted by Lestov16as in extermsive oral reconstruction with many 9mm beretta rounds? Yes. I agree.
The only thing McClane faces is the oral he gives Marwan
Gimping his feats because Bauer's clearly much better. Indeed
No Im not and nah hes not. He'd have to team up with his son from Touch to stand even a slightly better chance.
McClane has Iron Man level feats. IE: Raptor Jets are both highly allergic to both.
[b]EVERYTHING Jack did on Day 6 more or less solo by themself, considering he was recovering from 20 consecutive months of torture
they fail to prove he could get through the DH movies.
Yes, because screen feats prove he can
How many shots as good as the ones McClane faced has he faced. Oh. None.
Bauer gotten into how many gunfights compared to McClane? How many times has he been shot compared to McClane?
No
The fact that McClane allowed this to happen to him does not speak well of him
Like allowing one's self to be tortured to death three times over 20 months?
You mean "boss the joint", like the stuff that Jack does on an hourly basis? Yeah, real impressive
LOL. Only the weak cannon-fodder non-professional on 24 do that, and it usually ends up costing them their lives. Like I stated, McClane's working on 24 time, and in 24, taking time to lament your family=Time for a terrorist to detonate a nuke because you didn't move fast enough
Well when youre Mcclane you can do both, evidently.
Call it McMultitasking if you will..
Because he's a professional who knows what he's doing and often leaps directly into situations knowing full well he could die, but does it regardless to save lives, unlike McClane who has to be trapped in the building for him to intervene
Nothing Bauer couldn't do, since he's good at evading bullets (even better than McClane) and has proven feats in which he sneakily crawls through ventilation shafts to rescue hostages
One of the two times McClane was shot was by his own hand in an awesome move to take out the badguy..if you count the amount of bullets flying at him throughout that movie (And the others too) that missed, that leaves 1 bullet out of thousands upon thousands.
And he didnt die once.
Even if McClane dies in number 5, thats still an advantage of 1 over 3 that McClane has.
Bauer does all of that too.....on an hourly basis. Thus McClane=Unimpressive [/B]
Not really. Its against TV villians/fodder. Not all the manner of Obstacles and nemesisisises that McClane faced. Irrevlevant anyhow, as these are the DH obstacle courses that Bauer faces.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
as in extermsive oral reconstruction with many 9mm beretta rounds?
No, mean like capturing him (which Simon, a villain far less intelligent than Marwan did) and shooting him the face (which Simon, a villain far less intelligent than Marwan, didn't do). Oh yeah, Marwan won't do, he's not going to give McClane evidence leading to his exact location for shits and giggles. And since you have yet to provide me with nay proof that McClane can interrogate on the level of Bauer, McClane's definitely not lasting through that day, (not hat he'll make it that far, of course)
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
No Im not
Yes you are, otherwise you wouldn't be trying to disregard them
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
and nah hes not.
Yes he is. It's the same reason Superman can run this same gauntlet with ease: He's taken on far worse opponents
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
He'd have to team up with his son from Touch to stand even a slightly better chance.
i'd much rather team up with my physic son from a critically acclaimed television series than the oh-so-cleverly-named "Butterfingers" from the god awful monstrosity that was Hudson Hawk
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
McClane has Iron Man level feats. IE: Raptor Jets are both highly allergic to both.
you mean like the Raptor Jack outsmarted, saving not only himself but the 100 or so innocent passengers on board the plane he hijacked?
Oh, yeah. Jack actually had something to do with that, unlike McClane, who got stuck and was trapped before the pilot (who, like Simon, and Karl (who didn't shoot McClane in the face when he had the chance when he caught him by surprise, once again stuff you would know if you paid attention the film) is a complete dumbass, and far below any 24 villain's caliber) for no reason (and not to get a better angle shot, because in order for that to be true, it would have had to have been a better angle shot, which it wasn't. And anyone who thinks it was is a dumbass, like the pilot.) decided to fly under the falling overpass and of course get hit by flying debri.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Excuses excuses.
You just keep on making them, Saddy.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
they fail to prove he could get through the DH movies.
Although they do prove that Bauer can get through 24 in style.
AKA:
I am so afraid to watch the video because I know for a fact that it is a montage of Jack kicking so much ass that McClane would want to be his right one, and I would be forced to concede that Jack is a far better counterterrorist and all-around action hero
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
How many shots as good as the ones McClane faced has he faced. Oh. None.
Jacks' taken on everything from devout Islamic terrorists to ex-special forces mercs to actual special forces mercs to FBI HRT teams to Secret Service motorcades to entire Consulates. You'd know if you watched the video you are so damn afraid to click on
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Like allowing one's self to be tortured to death three times over 20 months?
Are you saying McClane wouldn't let himself get captured, because par Simon being a dumbass, McClane was pretty phucked at the end of Die Hard III. Of course one who paid attention to the film would know this 😉
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Hmmm. for 20 months? 😖hifty: Bosses by getting tortured to death?
And reviving and running up a wall to snap a guys neck. And those were two separate occasions. The first time he was caught by bad guys who were attempting to get info out of him that would start WWIII. He pawned them all and then proceeded to do a wall-run neck snap, which is clearly displayed in the Video You Are Afraid To Watch. The second time he handed himself over the Chinese government and was tortured. Everything he does from 40:00-47:08 in the VYAATW (a video I myself made to compile all of his best feats so one (AKA you) could watch it without having to go through the entire show) he did THE DAY after coming back from China.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well when youre Mcclane you can do both, evidently.
Call it McMultitasking if you will..
He sat down to take a break and cry. Jack NEVER does that, because it wastes time that could be used to save lives. He just sucks up the pain and moves on. Also, you are conceding that John has lower stamina than Jack, so conversely, Jack has higher stamina than john and thus should be completing this gauntlet far more efficiently than McClane
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Nope. He doesn't as proved in Dhs 2-4 (and looks like its the case in 5, so far)
Really? I remember during that helicopter scene when McClane was bitching about how he was only supposed to pick up a kid and whine whine whine. That's all McClane does. That's half of his quips. Complaining about the situation. He's been forced into every situation he's been in:
DH1 just happened to be visiting Nakatomi Plaza that night
DH2 just happened to be at that airport
DH3 Simon specifically reached out to him for personal reasons. If Simon never involved him, his plan would have worked perfectly
DH4 He was the closest person in the area who could pick up Justin Long
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
One of the two times McClane was shot was by his own hand in an awesome move to take out the badguy.
Jack's good enough to disarm opponents so he doesn't have to get forced into such a retarded situation
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
if you count the amount of bullets flying at him throughout that movie (And the others too) that missed, that leaves 1 bullet out of thousands upon thousands.
So what? Jack takes on terrorist compounds on an hourly basis.
McClane=Unimpressive
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
And he didnt die once.
Because he never underwent the amount of duress nor the level of opponent that Jack did. You might as well be saying McClane can survive the surface of the sun because he has no screen feats saying he can't. you see how ludicrous your argument is?
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Even if McClane dies in number 5, thats still an advantage of 1 over 3 that McClane has.
Because he never underwent the amount of duress Jack did. You might as well be saying he survive the surface of the sun.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Not really. Its against TV villians/fodder.
😆 Dude...just..stop 😂
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Not all the manner of Obstacles and nemesisisises that McClane faced.
Indeed. FAR WORSE obstacles and nemeses. Speaking of which, how did you saying McClane was going to withdraw form heroin addiction in six hours out of pure force of will?
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Irrelevant anyhow, as these are the DH obstacle courses that Bauer faces.
Indeed. Bauer will probably consider this a elementary school jungle gym compared the the stuff he takes on regularly
Originally posted by Lestov16
No, mean like capturing him (which Simon, a villain far less intelligent than Marwan did) and shooting him the face (which Simon, a villain far less intelligent than Marwan, didn't do). Oh yeah, Marwan [b]won't do, he's not going to give McClane evidence leading to his exact location for shits and giggles. And since you have yet to provide me with nay proof that McClane can interrogate on the level of Bauer, McClane's definitely not lasting through that day, (not hat he'll make it that far, of course)
You accuse me of downplay....not gimping.
Yes you are, otherwise you wouldn't be trying to disregard them
Yes he is. It's the same reason Superman can run this same gauntlet with ease: He's taken on far worse opponents
Depends if Karl has Kryptonite bullets or not, really..
McClane would then team up with that kid from the Sixth Sense so McClane would be able to have the kid see Bauer after he tried running the McGauntlet. 😛
i'd much rather team up with my physic son from a critically acclaimed television series than the oh-so-cleverly-named "Butterfingers" from the god awful monstrosity that was Hudson Hawk
you mean like the Raptor Jack outsmarted, saving not only himself but the 100 or so innocent passengers on board the plane he hijacked?
Well McClane outsmarts and destroys.
Oh, yeah. Jack actually had something to do with that, unlike McClane, who got stuck and was trapped before the pilot (who, like Simon, and Karl (who didn't shoot McClane in the face when he had the chance when he caught him by surprise, once again stuff you would know if you paid attention the film) is a complete dumbass, and far below any 24 villain's caliber) for no reason (and not to get a better angle shot, because in order for that to be true, it would have had to have been a better angle shot, which it wasn't. And anyone who thinks it was is a dumbass, like the pilot.) decided to fly under the falling overpass and of course get hit by flying debri.
Oh I paid enough attention to the movie to realise that he made the mistake of making it personal. And it cost him. And he did try to shoot McClane.
You just keep on making them, Saddy.
Or do I...?
AKA:I am so afraid to watch the video because I know for a fact that it is a montage of Jack kicking so much ass that McClane would want to be his right one, and I would be forced to concede that Jack is a far better counterterrorist and all-around action hero
[quote]
Well Mcclane kicks the asses of Terrorists, Exceptional theives, International gangs, Criminal geniuses for all genres.
And he does it laregly alone.[quote]
Jacks' taken on everything from dumbass devout Islamic terrorists to dumbed down ex-special forces mercs to actual tv level special forces mercs to lukewarm, scripted not-to-hurt-Bauer FBI HRT teams to Secret Service motorcades to entire Consulates of non-movie villians. You'd know if you watched the video you are so damn afraid to click on
Are you saying McClane wouldn't let himself get captured, because par Simon being a dumbass, McClane was pretty phucked at the end of Die Hard III. Of course one who paid attention to the film would know this 😉
And reviving and running up a wall to snap a guys neck. And those were two separate occasions. The first time he was caught by bad guys who were attempting to get info out of him that would start WWIII. He pawned them all and then proceeded to do a wall-run neck snap, which is clearly displayed in the Video You Are Afraid To Watch. The second time he handed himself over the Chinese government and was tortured. Everything he does from 40:00-47:08 in the VYAATW (a video I myself made to compile all of his best feats so one (AKA you) could watch it without having to go through the entire show) he did THE DAY after coming back from China.
It matters not. Superman was all fu**ed up after losing Jonathan Kent and Lois Lane. Yet you rated Superman as someone who would have pwned both Bauer and McClane.
He sat down to take a break and cry. Jack NEVER does that, because it wastes time that could be used to save lives. He just sucks up the pain and moves on. Also, you are conceding that John has lower stamina than Jack, so conversely, Jack has higher stamina than john and thus should be completing this gauntlet far more efficiently than McClane
Really? I remember during that helicopter scene when McClane was bitching about how he was only supposed to pick up a kid and whine whine whine. That's all McClane does. That's half of his quips. Complaining about the situation. He's been forced into every situation he's been in:
DH1 just happened to be visiting Nakatomi Plaza that night
DH2 just happened to be at that airport
DH3 Simon specifically reached out to him for personal reasons. If Simon never involved him, his plan would have worked perfectly
DH4 He was the closest person in the area who could pick up Justin Long
Jack's good enough to disarm opponents so he doesn't have to get forced into such a retarded situation
So what? Jack takes on terrorist compounds on an hourly basis.McClane=Unimpressive
Because he never underwent the amount of duress nor the level of opponent that Jack did. You might as well be saying McClane can survive the surface of the sun because he has no screen feats saying he can't. you see how ludicrous your argument is?
He went through tonnes of duress.
He just didn't shit his pants.
😆 Dude...just..stop 😂
😛
Indeed. FAR WORSE obstacles and nemeses. Speaking of which, how did you saying McClane was going to withdraw form heroin addiction in six hours out of pure force of will?
McClane doesnt do hard drugs, and Heroin is not part of the DH gauntlet. but given how he kills legions of badguys whilst hungover, I'd say that he kills them all whilst going in search of some methadone, and an asprin for his McHangovers.
How do we know that Bauer can cope with the drinking that McClane does...?
Like dying. Yes good that hes so used to it. 😛
Indeed. Bauer will probably consider this a elementary school jungle gym compared the the stuff he takes on regularly [/B]
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
McClane would then team up with that kid from the Sixth Sense so McClane would be able to have the kid see Bauer after he tried running the McGauntlet. 😛
'Hmmm, you see, Jack, I can call you Jack, right, or do you prefer Casper now? Anyhow, what you did wrong was not taking to the ventilation shafts, running in head first like an idiot gets you killed in one of my films; this isn't cable TV, pal."
Originally posted by Robtard
'Hmmm, you see, Jack, I can call you Jack, right, or do you prefer Casper now? Anyhow, what you did wrong was not taking to the ventilation shafts, running in head first like an idiot gets you killed in one of my films; this isn't cable TV, pal."
😂
Stiller recollects the time he wore the Sutherland mask for TV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6WHBO_Qc-Q
Being about 2/3 through S1 of 24, I will say that there's a scene that involves Bauer behind the wheel of a van, plenty of bad-guys and there definitely wasn't any mass carnage, as would be expected when mixing the highly volatile combination of McClane+Vehicle+Villains, aka the MVV Factor.
ie no villains had the need to visit a proctologist to have fiery wreckage removed from their colons.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
It doesnt matter....This isn't McClane runs the 24 gauntlet.
Beucase he'd lose. I'm glads we agree on that
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
You accuse me of downplay....not gimping.
No. You are trying to use some crappy excuse that because it was on TV, it doesn't count,
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Depends if Karl has Kryptonite bullets or not, really..
I didn't see them in the first DH film anywhere, so I'll assume he doesn't...
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
McClane would then team up with that kid from the Sixth Sense
He's definitely gonna be talking to that kid, considering he's dead from the 24 gauntlet
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well McClane outsmarts and destroys.
Bauer does it faster and better
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Oh I paid enough attention to the movie to realise that he made the mistake of making it personal. And it cost him.
And McClane couldn't even solve that plan, considering his only lead came from a medicine bottle that you just stated was a mistake to give to McClane. Marwan nor Beirko nor Max makes these mistakes
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
I dont have to.Well since you went to the trouble...I will will watch that vid someday. But not til Ive watched all of the series.
Official Notice of Sadako's Concession
As we can clearly see by the above post, Saddy is clearly wearing his brown pants in anticipation for the video, which he does not want to watch because he is horrified that he will be witnessing Jack be a total badass that McClane can only dream of. The fact that you have stooped down to IGNORING EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE proves how much you are afraid to admit how much Bauer pwns McClane in every aspect of life
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Even if he would allow him self to be captured (which judging by feats would be highly unlikely,.
Like the end of Die Hard 3?
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
he would not, by feats, take 20 months to killify those who would have done it
Yeah you're right. They would have probably broke McClane after the first month
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well Mcclane kicks the asses of Terrorists, Exceptional theives, International gangs, Criminal geniuses for all genres.
I don't see POTUS on that list....
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Complaining then conquering (sometimes forgoing the complaining when neccessary) is the McClanian way.
Whcih would get him killed in the 24 verse
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Hey. Its a gift. He conquers all without prep.
What prep do you think Jack has? There's a reason it's called 24
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Way cooler than having an task force do his homework for him.
You mean the task force who rely on him to investigate and hunt down their leads?
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Stupid ass jack who got captured and killed
.....resurrected from the dead, and then killed 8 people an hour and a half later, as shown in the VYAATW
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Never go full retard.
Someone needs to tell that pilot that. And Simon. And Karl
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Box office disagrees.
Box Office also says Transformers: Dark of The Moon was the 5th highest grossing film ever. BO doesn't equal quality
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
He went through tonnes of duress.
He just didn't shit his pants.
Not the level Jack undertook
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
McClane doesnt do hard drugs,
So he's not going to be able to go undercover with the Salazars? He can't even make it out of the first quarter of Day 3? 😆
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
How do we know that Bauer can cope with the drinking that McClane does...
Overcame heroin addiction in 6 hours.....
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Like resurrecting from the dead. Yes good that hes so used to it. 😛
Indeed he is. By the way, how many deaths can McClane come back from?
Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, dude. If we were to condense all of McClane's feats/kills/action-scenes into one long snippet of carnage, he would also appear more bad-ass(is that possible?)outside of context, than in the actual full films.
If we were posting in a thread about Thor or something, and I made a dubious claim, wouldn't you want me to post proof to back up my claim?
It's very simple:
Tell Bauer that McClane killed Renee Walker. McClane doesn't have a shot in hell of surviving
Bauer assaulted the Russian Embassy, killed the guards who happened to be ex-Spetsnaz (equalivant to the Rangers and Green Berets) and was about to kill the Russian diplomat and President Logan. Logan is so scared shitless to the point where he killed himself. Jack nearly caused a war on the scale of CoD: MW series. Jack killed those responsible for Renee's death included ripping the internal organs out of a man while he was still alive. Jack survived a bio-weapon attack as well. When has McClane killed or executed men in complete controlled calculated rage?
Jack's only equal is Tony Almeida and there is no way McClane can beat Tony.