Jack Bauer runs the Die Hard Gauntlet

Originally posted by Lestov16
Because during the process of getting the shit kicked out of him, he fell off the plane because he couldn't handle his opponent, unlike Bauer, who would have snapped that guys neck in two seconds

What do you know? Bauer did too. AFTER being involved in a plane crash (that they shot down). And you know what? It only took him 10 minutes. Not to mention they were ambushing him. How long did it take McClane? Oh...yeah...

So in your mind, Bauer would have run over to the F-35(still in flight) pilot, opened the cockpit and snapped his neck. And you dare imply that Sadako and I are the lunatic fanboys? LoL

Awesome that Bauer did that; I was responding to you insinuating that McClane hadn't taken out an elite military unit. He has.

Originally posted by Robtard
So you're dodging the question? Good tactic. Bauer can't launch cars until you show proof.

So you're dodging the question of whether McClane can handle an hour and a half of electroshock torture give up the info his captors wanted? After being involved in a plane crash and not (Bauer was on the INSIDE of) and still have the endurance to run up a wall and break a man's neck? Good tactic. Bauer is more durable until you show proof

Speaking of which, Bauer used a car a shield and a transport to drive himself off the first story of a parking garage because he told the FBI to go phuck themselves and they sent HRT Teams after him, and then lured a guy into a trailer, and then used a nearby bulldozer to flip the trailer over.

So if we consider the fact that Bauer, when cornered, improvised, scanned his environment, and realized he could utilize a vehicle as a resource (and in the second case, a weapon), and then placed him in the same circumstances that McClane was in, it can be logically deduced that he would take the same course of action as McClane to use a vehicle as a weapon

Originally posted by Robtard
So in your mind, Bauer would have run over to the F-35(still in flight) pilot, opened the cockpit and snapped his neck. And you dare imply that Sadako and I are the lunatic fanboys? LoL

What was McClane's plan again? Get trapped and then conveniently fall when the retard pilot inexplicably decides to fly under a falling overpass?

Bauer would just run up to the plane in his rigid stance, veins popping on his forehead barking 'STEP AWAY FROM THE VEHICLE' over and over again until he has a heart attack.

My apologies. I wasn't aware you guys were talking about the F-35. I still we were still talking about that plane wing fight. The F-35 doesn't need to be mentioned, because McClane had no involvement in taking it down

McClane feels emotion then overcomes it.
Is that another attribute that Jack lacked when he copied off of Mack?
And you started that, so its a suitable finish that it be you who finishes up with heroball sweat upon his chin, sir.

He took out two teams of seals in Die Hard 2, and survived the decimation of two aircraft in Die Hard 2. (3 if you count a miss miss when the London flight crashed nearby) And he destroyed another in DH4.0.
Trains, Planes AND Automobiles failed to total McClane.

All McClane has to do to win against Bauer is to hide under a sheet and be ready to shout "Boo!" whilst jumping suddenly.

Originally posted by Lestov16
So you're dodging the question of whether McClane can handle an hour and a half of electroshock torture give up the info his captors wanted? After being involved in a plane crash and not (Bauer was on the INSIDE of) and still have the endurance to run up a wall and break a man's neck? Good tactic. Bauer is more durable until you show proof

Speaking of which, Bauer used a car a shield and a transport to drive himself off the first story of a parking garage because he told the FBI to go phuck themselves, and then lured a guy into a trailer, and then used a nearby bulldozer to flip the trailer over.

So if we consider the fact that Bauer, when cornered, improvised, scanned his environment, and realized he could utilize a vehicle as a resource (and in the second case, a weapon), and then placed him in the same circumstances that McClane was in, it can be logically deduced that he would take the same course of action as McClane to use a vehicle as a weapon

I haven't dodged that. I simply don't know as McClane's never been tortured for 30mins. I do know McClane's not died yet.

Sounds neat, but not crazy like launching a car at an armed heli as McClane did. McClane's also used a car as a shield.

Sorry, you either have to show proof (as McClane can't break a man's neck per your rules) of Bauer launching a car like a missile at a heli or he can't do it, it's a looney-toon-ish feat after all.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
All McClane has to do to win against Bauer is to hide under a sheet and be ready to shout "Boo!" whilst jumping suddenly.

Does McClane saying "Boo!" have the power output equivalent to an hour and a half of electroshock torture compounded by a plane crash?

Becuase that's never occurred...in any of McClane's films. Wow. I knew you guys were fanatics, but making up false feats? That's just disgraceful 😮

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
McClane feels emotion then overcomes it.
Is that another attribute that Jack lacked when he copied off of Mack?
And you started that, so its a suitable finish that it be you who finishes up with heroball sweat upon his chin, sir.

So basically I'm right and you are conceding. Thank you 🙂

He took out two teams of seals in Die Hard 2,

Yes...I conceed that you have lost.

Hmmmm. 20 secs.

Originally posted by Robtard
I haven't dodged that. I simply don't know as McClane's never been tortured for 30mins. I do know McClane's not died yet.

Sounds neat, but not crazy like launching a car at an armed heli as McClane did. McClane's also used a car as a shield.

Sorry, you either have to show proof (as McClane can't break a man's neck per your rules) of Bauer launching a car like a missile at a heli or he can't do it, it's a looney-toon-ish feat after all.

Yeah. I mean, he was whining and crying to Sgt. Can't shoot Str8 just because he got some glass in his foot. If he had to undergo even 15 minutes, he would have caved and told his captors everything

No, once again. You trying some superfluous argument that upon close inspection means jack shit.

One scenario (the H2H) just requires that they fight. Who wins that is entirely based on their skill. If McClane's not good enough, he's getting his ass handed to him. End of story

Other scenario ( Car launch) requires that if placed in the exact same circumstances, they can improvise an escape. Who wins that is based on their ingenuity. Based on Bauer's other ingenious feats, it is logical that yes, Bauer could replicate the feat. Unlike the other scenario, you have to use logic

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Yes...I conceed that you have lost.

I've only lost when I'm proven wrong, and none of you have done that

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Hmmmm. 20 secs.

Killed them an explosion huh? Makes sense. I'm sure he's not nearly as manly as Jack to just take an assault rifle and gun them down one by one

Speaking of which, what are you saying McClane beats Bauer at?

because H2H and gunfight Bauer manhandles him

Originally posted by Lestov16
Yeah. I mean, he was whining and crying to Sgt. Can't shoot Str8 just because he got some glass in his foot. If he had to undergo even 15 minutes, he would have caved and told his captors everything

No, once again. You trying some superfluous argument that upon close inspection means jack shit.

One scenario (the H2H) just requires that they fight. Who wins that is entirely based on their skill. If McClane's not good enough, he's getting his ass handed to him. End of story

Other scenario ( Car launch) requires that if placed in the exact same circumstances, they can improvise an escape. Who wins that is based on their ingenuity. Based on Bauer's other ingenious feats, it is logical that yes, Bauer could replicate the feat. Unlike the other scenario, you have to use logic

Awesome; this is ignoring how he's evolved in DH2-4, one mention is shooting through himself to win the day and not "crying", as you seem to think he does. But okay, let's go with McClane dying after 30mins of being tortured, just cos. His captures probably wouldn't be stupid enough to revive him.

No, they're the same. You clearly said McClane could not break a man's neck cos he's not specifically done that, despite his shown capabilities and at times impossibe strength. Now you're saying "Bauer can do anything McClane can do", despite not showing it. Pure bias.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Speaking of which, what are you saying McClane beats Bauer at?

because H2H and gunfight Bauer manhandles him

Ah, is Jack Bauer better because he's better or because he's lucky no -one can shoot straight when confronting him or just kill him outright instead of resorting to torture (giving him time to get better and escape)?

Originally posted by Robtard
Awesome; this is ignoring how he's evolved in DH2-4, one mention is shooting through himself to win the day and not "crying", as you seem to think he does. But okay, let's go with McClane dying after 30mins of being tortured, just cos.

Bauer probably would shoot through himself. He's made very intense personal (physical and emotional) sacrifices. That being stated, considering Bauer could probably just disarm him H2H, as he's done with people with guns trained on him before), he probably wouldn't find himself making such an inefficient and painful decision

Originally posted by Robtard

No, they're the same. You clearly said McClane could not break a man's neck cos he's not specifically done that, despite his shown capabilities and at times impossibe strength. Now you're saying "Bauer can do anything McClane can do", despite not showing it. Pure bias.

I never said McClane can't break a man's neck. I said he can't run up a wall and break a man's neck after being involved in a plane crash, being tortured to his physical limits, and having heart attacks from the torture. Huge difference.

And also, even McClane can, he first has to get an advantage over Jack in the H2H match, and based on the fight scene on the airplane wing, that AINT HAPPENIN

Originally posted by Lord Shadow Z
Ah, is Jack Bauer better because he's better or because he's lucky no -one can shoot straight when confronting him or just kill him outright instead of resorting to torture (giving him time to get better and escape)?

So are you saying when Jason Bourne guns down people, he's just lucky? There's a huge difference between being deadly accurate with a gun and getting your ass handed to you until the last possible second, when the plot has to come in to save the day

Originally posted by Lestov16
Bauer probably would shoot through himself. He's made very intense personal (physical and emotional) sacrifices. That being stated, considering Bauer could probably just disarm him H2H, as he's done with people with guns trained on him before), he probably wouldn't find himself making such an inefficient and painful decision

I never said McClane can't break a man's neck. I said he can't [b]run up a wall and break a man's neck after being involved in a plane crash, being tortured to his physical limits, and having heart attacks from the torture. Huge difference.

And also, even McClane can, he first has to get an advantage over Jack in the H2H match, and based on the fight scene on the airplane wing, that AINT HAPPENIN [/B]

LoL, I love how you rail-road McClane to not being able to do something unless he's specifically and exactly done it, but then go with Bauer being able to do anything, it's like a a No-Limit-Fallacy.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Does McClane saying "Boo!" have the power output equivalent to an hour and a half of electroshock torture compounded by a plane crash?

It doesnt need have that power now, with Bauer's dodgy ticker.

I'm basing it off the fact that in McClane's fight he got the shit beat out of him, whereas in Bauer's fight, at his physically weakest, he did a wall-run neck snap

Bauer>>>Guy who kicks McClane's ass
Bauer>>>McClane

This is kindergarten logic...