Avengers vs X-Men First Class

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Well Magneto would at least render Stark's suit useless.

oh yeah im sure he will, but after a while Mags will be the last X-Man to fall

Erik would crush Stark.

I think Mags could take out everyone easily except Hulk Ironman and Thor with little pieces of metal like screws or something.

I think Magneto could rip off Ironman helmet and X could mind control him (if he couldnt do it with the helmet on which i think he could) to fight Thor since he did get Thor a fight. Might not win but would cause them trouble. Again thats only if X couldnt control Thor which im willing to go either way on that one

Mags could also probably crush Thors armor and helmet on him and im guessing he could mess with the hammer to some degree

The real threat is the green monster and unless X can control him or calm him down then i dunno

Unless Magneto could maybe wrap some metal around Hulk and send him in to orbit im not sure they can win

I'd say Thor is durable enough to tank Magneto's attempt to crush him with his armor, if Magneto can do it.

A blade pierced Thor and if Mags could mess with the armor or helmet id bet he could stab Thor.

Also with Ironman fighting againts Thor in addition to the rest of the X-Men i think Thor goes down but only if it works out like i posted earlier. If not Thor could destroy everyone on the X-Men squad

Originally posted by juggerman
A blade pierced Thor and if Mags could mess with the armor or helmet id bet he could stab Thor.

Also with Ironman fighting againts Thor in addition to the rest of the X-Men i think Thor goes down but only if it works out like i posted earlier. If not Thor could destroy everyone on the X-Men squad

We don't know the properties of that blade. For all we know it could be magical. Thor's durability and the fact he was armored up make me think that. However I'm not stating it as a fact.

If Xavier gets to mind control/mind freeze them the X-men win. If he can't Avengers win IMO.

Since nothing was said about the blade we have to assume it was a normal blade.

Without mind control i think they can take everyone but Hulk tho Thor would be tough.

Yes mind control on everyone yes they take it easily

I reckon Eric could probably do to Thor's helmet what he did to the helmets of those two Nazi soldiers at the beginning of the movie, but I guess whether it's enough to hurt Thor very much or more is another story.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
I for one certainly wouldn't use arguments like that.

But what makes me think they might be an issue for him is that he couldn't hold Shaw for long because he was too powerful.

Surely then Hulk and Thor combined would also be too powerful.

I have to disagree here. The Picard version froze an entire maul with ease. He also possessed Sabertooth and Toad simultaneously.

Whilst the young version could only freeze Shaw for so long and he also seemed helpless to stop the Navy wiping them all out.

So clearly numbers and power of opponent(s) limit young Mr. X.

"Too powerful", but how exactly? There's no reason to believe that Shaw's physical strength was the reason Xavier was stressing holding him; that would make little sense. Stands to reason it had something to do with his specific power-set, which neither Thor or Hulk possess.

But if it is indeed a general "too powerful issue", Shaw > both Hulk and Thor combined in terms of power-potential, the man has an on screen stated max of putting nuclear-levels of destruction out; which he had reached when Xavier held him, as per Shaw's Plan B.

Xavier doesn't need to hold them like he held Shaw, he lobotomizes their minds.

lobotomizing is likely not to work on Hulk due to the hf reparing the damage.

Originally posted by marwash22
lobotomizing is likely not to work on Hulk due to the hf reparing the damage.

Obviously not an actual physical lobotomy. Hulk's healing factor can repair the alteration and/or complete loss of memory and will? Proof?

Seems it'd calm him if anything and he'd Banner-out, then Xavier mind-rapes Banner into thinking he's an always happy school girl.

Magneto can hurt Thor and Hulk based on showings, honestly.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Magneto can hurt Thor and Hulk based on showings, honestly.

Hmmm.

Well, I do not think Thor can withstand the force of the Golden Gate bridge on his face. That's how much force Maggie can create.

Shut your fat ass up.

Originally posted by Robtard
Hulk's healing factor can repair the alteration and/or complete loss of memory and will? Proof?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Shut your fat ass up.

Scum like you using a badass like the Doctor in an attempt for sympathy?

How dares you. HOW DARES YOU.

screw you. screw you and your gay butt lover, Rob. ahah

Originally posted by dadudemon
Hmmm.

Well, I do not think Thor can withstand the force of the Golden Gate bridge on his face. That's how much force Maggie can create.

Yeah but this is the younger Magneto who does not have access to this feat and needed Xavier to help him concentrate to manipulate huge objects.