Avengers vs X-Men First Class

nah, at the end of the movie he had pretty much gained enough exp. to do it on his own... as seen with the missiles.

I don't think the missiles compare to the submarine, but whateva!

not in weight, but it probably took the same amount of concentration given the amount of objects he needed to control simultaneously.

X men win in my opinion. The amount of force that Magneto can apply to Thor or Hulk is enough to render them immobile or useless. Stark is reduced to bloody chunk of scrap and the other three are either killed in the crossfire or after.

Magneto can stick Tony's head up Hulk's ass... Hancock style.

Damned hancock...movies vs threads will never be the same

i actually saw that on another forum and there was a serious debate as to how durable/damage resistant Hulk's butthole is. true story.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Yeah but this is the younger Magneto who does not have access to this feat and needed Xavier to help him concentrate to manipulate huge objects.

Yes.

Originally posted by marwash22
nah, at the end of the movie he had pretty much gained enough exp. to do it on his own... as seen with the missiles.

He did get better, but there's nothing to suggest he became as powerful as his older self.

Besides which X3 feats don't count anyway. Different continuity.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Yeah but this is the younger Magneto who does not have access to this feat and needed Xavier to help him concentrate to manipulate huge objects.

I took that quasi-homosexual scene as Xavier teaching Magneto how to find his center and thereby gaining better control of his powers. He was more powerful from that point on without Xavier's direct help.

That entire time at the mansion was all of them training and improving with the exception of Xavier possibly.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER

Besides which X3 feats don't count anyway. Different continuity.

Sense when is X3 in a different continuity from the rest of the X-Men movies?

Originally posted by Riot-Gear
Sense when is X3 in a different continuity from the rest of the X-Men movies?

It's not different continuity to the rest of the X-Men movies. It is a different continuity to First Class.

Just like Superman Returns is in the same continuity as Superman 1 & 2. But not 3 & 4.

When Xavier became paralyzed at the end of First Class that clearly ignored scenes in X3 and in Origins Wolverine which both showed a much older Xavier still walking.

Not to mention Moira was in X3 a lot younger than she should be. And Emma Frost in Origins Wolverine, again a lot younger than she should be according to First Class.

Come to think of it...what was up with that. The continuity went downhill lol.

^ Oh basically Singer was involved in First Class. So Mathew Vaghn was making First Class a prequel to Singers X Movies. He wasn't bothered about the other 2.

But Vaughn's also made it clear he's more concerned with making a good movie than keeping the continuity. In other words he won't let the events of the other movies limit what he can do too much.

Figures. I understand his reasoning, but I find it to be real selfish.

i figured First Class was just a straight up reboot to the series.

Originally posted by marwash22
i figured First Class was just a straight up reboot to the series.

I wish it was. That way they could have used the actual First Class: Cyclops, Ice-Man, Jean Grey, Angel and Beast. All under Xavier of course.

We did of course get Xavier and Beast but that was it.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Figures. I understand his reasoning, but I find it to be real selfish.

I do hate it when a movie can't decide if it's a prequel/sequel or a reboot.

Superman Returns and the new Star Trek movie had the same issue.

The way I see it they should either make it a proper sequel/prequel with no big contradictions to the originals, or just make it a plain out reboot.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Thor
Hulk
Iron Man
Captain America
Black Widow
Hawkeye

vs

Xavier
Magneto
Beast
Mystique
Havoc
Banshee

Fight in New York City. Most civilians have either taken cover or been evacuated.

Remember it's First Class. So it's the young Magneto and Xavier. This should be considered when mentioning feats.

Magneto beats hawkeye, black widow, captain america and iron man by himself.

I'm pretty sure Thor has metal armor so he could restrain him.

Xavier then shuts down Thor's and Hulk's mind.

X-Men would win

Yeah X men win, Poor Tony , Magneto is literally an anti Iron man here but in the Avengers vs X men comic, Tony actually defeated Magneto with BE Armor but here he will die !!

uh..................Magneto let IM beat him remember, Magneto could have killed him but he lost on purpose.

Magneto and Xavier solo this.