Originally posted by Lestov16
So it's pretty much Thor and Hulk against the First Class mutants (because IM is going to get phucked in the ass by Magneto). Hmm. IDK about this one. Hulk might go down to TP (YMMV), but IDK how they will take down Thor.
Use mind controlled Hulk to take him down? With help from Magneto of course. Since we all know Hulk can't beat Thor alone 😛
I don't know if Thor's hammer qualifies as the kind of metal Magneto can control. I mean, there's terrestrial metals, and then there is the energy-generating, superpower-granting material that Thor's Hammer is made out of. I don't think Magneto has eaten enough Wheaties to lift the hammer, even with his mind.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Since when does Rage make it harder for Xavier? Did he have any trouble possessing Sabretooth?And Hulk won't even know whose effecting him, or where Xavier even is. He doesn't have to stand right in front of Hulk to attack him.
I don't remember Xavier ever possessing Sabretooth in Xmen first class. This is young Xavier, who struggled with Shaw.
Originally posted by Firefly218
I don't remember Xavier ever possessing Sabretooth in Xmen first class. This is young Xavier, who struggled with Shaw.
Because of how powerful Shaw was. Not due to Shaws rage. He had none as far as we know. There's no evidence that Prof X struggles against opponents with loads of Rage. Heck Magneto has shit loads of rage, but even Eric needs that special helmet to counter Charles telepathy.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
I guess he could use CAP's Shield to block any blows from Thor.As for what he could throw at Thor to hurt him? Dunno? He just needs shit loads of metal to slow him down. giving the mind controlled Hulk a chance to pound on him.
Even if he had Cap's shield, I don't see him being fast enough to keep up with Thor, who will be speedblitzing the shit out of everyone.
Problem is that in the time that it takes him to compile all of that metal, Thor can shoot a lightning bolt up his ass and turn him into Kentucky Fried Mutant.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Even if he had Cap's shield, I don't see him being fast enough to keep up with Thor, who will be speedblitzing the shit out of everyone.Problem is that in the time that it takes him to compile all of that metal, Thor can shoot a lightning bolt up his ass and turn him into Kentucky Fried Mutant.
In a one on one? Sure.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Because of how powerful Shaw was. Not due to Shaws rage. He had none as far as we know. There's no evidence that Prof X struggles against opponents with loads of Rage. Heck Magneto has shit loads of rage, but even Eric needs that special helmet to counter Charles telepathy.
But Shaw's power is completely unrelated to his cognitive ability. It should be no harder for Xavier to get into Shaw's brain as it would be for him to get into anyone else's brain, despite Shaw's awesome mutant abilities.
Rage clouds rational thought. Xavier would need to appeal to Banner's rational thought to stop Hulk. Without his ability booster, Xavier gets squashed before getting to Banner's brain.
Originally posted by Firefly218
But Shaw's power is completely unrelated to his cognitive ability. It should be no harder for Xavier to get into Shaw's brain as it would be for him to get into anyone else's brain, despite Shaw's awesome mutant abilities.
Ok, so is your argument that Hulk is more powerful than Shaw therefore harder to control?
Originally posted by Firefly218
Rage clouds rational thought. Xavier would need to appeal to Banner's rational thought to stop Hulk. Without his ability booster, Xavier gets squashed before getting to Banner's brain.
Again there's no proof of this. Eric with all his rage is easy prey for Eric without the helmet.
And again, Charles doesn't need to be a dumb ass and stand right in front of Hulk. His TP attacks can happen from anywhere really.
Originally posted by Lestov16
There's really nobody on the opposing team who are powerful enough to distract Thor from turning Magneto into a piece of Michael Fassbacon.
Was thinking an Xavier controlled Hulk.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Ok, so is your argument that Hulk is more powerful than Shaw therefore harder to control?Again there's no proof of this. Eric with all his rage is easy prey for Eric without the helmet.
And again, Charles doesn't need to be a dumb ass and stand right in front of Hulk. His TP attacks can happen from anywhere really.
Was thinking an Xavier controlled Hulk.
I'm saying Hulk would be harder to control because of his enormous rage. Xavier appealed to Magneto by using logic. Xavier told Magneto that he was gonna die and that there were more mutants out there, he wasn't the only one.
Xavier won't be able to use logic to calm down Hulk like he did with Magneto. And without his ability booster, Xavier can't control anyone, especially Hulk