Originally posted by Naija boy
^ thats if he uses those abilities to their utmost extent (godblast he probably wont even bring out). Not very likely while in character.
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Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Like Digi said earlier. In a comic book, Hulk should win this. In a forum fight, it could go either way. It completely depends on how Thor fights.
Originally posted by Damborgson
WITH HELP. It was a shared feat and despite it being awesome doesn't give Hulk the clear cut win.
No Hulk puts his hands on Thor and it is over. Thor is a bloody pulp stain.I don't see the Hulk waving his hands at Thor distergrating him either which since it was a shared feat is what he'd have to do to kill him without touching. Thor isn't being killed by a thunderclap. He's taken much worse and he can block it.
A CIS off Thor is a different fight. This is not a CIS off fight.Only if Thor allows him to. If Thor doesn't want to, the Hulk will not touch him. And even if it did get up close and personal, Thor's history suggest that he isn't being take down with one hit. Much less one pinky or whatever nonsense you are saying.
Trust me, if Savage Hulk can bloody Thor with his strength then what you think someone who is astronomically stronger can do?
But know this, Thor can't affect WBH here at all.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Like Digi said earlier. In a comic book, Hulk should win this. In a forum fight, it could go either way. It completely depends on how Thor fights.
A CIS off Thor can possibly take it if he BFR him. But know that even a CIS off Thor won't affect Hulk (even with a godblast) and will make it a stalemate at best (if Thor stays far away). Also, gamma draining is not going to work because WBH has an endless supply and can Thunderclap Thor to hell.
Originally posted by h1a8
Doesn't matter if it was with help, Hulk still survived an astronomical amount more that got disintegrated the others even experience. Thus Thor is not affecting him in character. No Hulk puts his hands on Thor and it is over. Thor is a bloody pulp stain. A CIS off Thor is a different fight. This is not a CIS off fight.Trust me, if Savage Hulk can bloody Thor with his strength then what you think someone who is astronomically stronger can do?
But know this, Thor can't affect WBH here at all.
What? 😂 You must be on something. Hulk surviving the force is just dandy. Hulk isn't able to reproduce the feat which is the point and turns the one I responded to by your part invalid.
Why can Thor not affect Hulk in character when he's affected stronger opponents in character? Think H1.
That's based on nothing and a nuh-uh argument.
I'm glad you can read the thread op? Thor doesn't need OP to say CIS off for him to put up a fight. Thor's a warrior, not a retard, he'll know not to let it get to close or he'll begin to lose.
Well if Thor can shatter celestial armor, then what do you think will happen to the hulk's skull which is astronomically less durable?
But know this, I suspect you eat paint.
Energy drain like what Surfer, Arm'Cheddon, and Rulk did to the Savage Hulk is likely off of the table. WB Hulk was able to consciously tap into the extra-dimensional power source that gave him his power.
For Example
Arm'Cheddon was able to drain the Silver Surfer, Rulk was able to drain the Surfer, Thor, Savage Hulk, Watcher, and just about anyone else that he came into contact with. Rulk even removed the Savage Hulk from existence by draining off all of the gamma rays within Banner reducing him to his human form, which happened well before he ever fought Omegex the catalyst of his depowerment. He was not able to do this in their final conflict. Arm'Cheddon also attempted to drain the WB Hulk, and was unable to do so. Myth busted moving on hopefully.
Using the brains that God has given us all, it would be obvious that the Silver Surfer, and Thor would be defeated by WB Hulk, as neither of them would be able to do anything against the Hulk up close, and they would have to end it before ever being within striking distance. Thor time and again has failed to get rid of the Hulk, although he does have the ability to do so. BFR is his only option. Up close he would not win with hammer,or lighting strikes when he could not do away with the merged Hulk who happened to lose to Trauma, Arm'Cheddon's son. The Godblast is suspect as well, as it does not have a 100% for sure hit percentile, it after all is hurled in uni-cast fashion which can be avoided by a character as fast as the Hulk.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
You must have missed WWH #5
I never missed part 5. What you seem to forget was the Hulk/Banner was trying to be controlled, and aided the tech in his own reduction of power. What did he say at the end? Please somebody stop me. He was so over the top that his own attempts to put on the breaks failed, and the tech added to his own will was what placed him that position. That's if we want to go by what was written. So tell me, should we go by context or imagination? WB Hulk conscioulsy willed himself to tap into the extradimenal power source that gave him his powers, unlike Savage Hulk, and all of the other incarnations of the character.
Originally posted by Stoic
I never missed part 5. What you seem to forget was the Hulk/Banner was trying to be controlled, and aided the tech in his own reduction of power. What did he say at the end? Please somebody stop me. He was so over the top that his own attempts to put on the breaks failed, and the tech added to his own will was what placed him that position. That's if we want to go by what was written. So tell me, should we go by context or imagination?
I can understand that argument if he had shields or something that he had to put down to get drained. But how do u let yourself get drained? Either u can be drained, or u can't. If the satellites tried to drain, say the Martian Manhunter, or Sersi, could they? Even if they WANTED to let them?
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
I can understand that argument if he had shields or something that he had to put down to get drained. But how do u let yourself get drained? Either u can be drained, or u can't. If the satellites tried to drain, say the Martian Manhunter, or Sersi, could they? Even if they WANTED to let them?
He consciously willed himself to continue to tap into the power source, the beam would have only slowed the amount that he was taking in per second, but not stop him from consciously tapping into it. You see the difference? Banner simply stopped tapping, and the tech did the rest. You would have a solid case if he did not say "Please somebody stop me".
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
I can understand that argument if he had shields or something that he had to put down to get drained. But how do u let yourself get drained? Either u can be drained, or u can't. If the satellites tried to drain, say the Martian Manhunter, or Sersi, could they? Even if they WANTED to let them?
Neither Sersi, or J'onn is powered by an endless extra-dimensional power source. The hulk has been written to resemble the same weapons that Quasar's bands are written. He taps from the Quantum Zone, and the Hulk taps from a similar zone, I guess you would call it the gamma force. Gamma rays as we know are universal. All stars emit them, sooo.... Yeah this is why he has no limit to his strength, and/or has never reached those limits.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
So a guy who has affected Surtur, Glory, the Chaos King, Zeus, Mephisto, Onslaught, Galactus, and many others can't affect the Hulk??? Really??I hope you're joking, or just trolling.
This is WBH from HOTM not HULK. Watch your tone Mr! 😠
Nothing shown was able to harm WBH at the end of the arc.
Are saying that Thor can affect WBH even though beings on par with savage Hulk couldn't phase him in the slightest? Is Thor astronomically more powerful than Savage Hulk is what you are saying?
And are you saying that Thor can affect someone when the brunt of a force, that without touching them, disintegrated countless beings who ALL have the durability of an average Savage Hulk and destroyed a planet also didn't harm him?
How many times more force did WBH experience colliding with Betty than all the ones who were disintegrated felt? Clearly more than a million more times.
Can Thor disintegrate just one of those characters with an attack? Can Thor disintegrate ALL of those characters with an attack? Can Thor attack with the power 1 million times greater than an attack that can disintegrate ALL those characters?
You are the one trolling son. Show me an attack made by Thor that is well beyond the power and energy what Hulk survived when he collided with Betty and then we can talk.
Originally posted by h1a8
This is WBH from HOTM not HULK. Watch your tone Mr! 😠
Nothing shown was able to harm WBH at the end of the arc.Are saying that Thor can affect WBH even though beings on par with savage Hulk couldn't phase him in the slightest? Is Thor astronomically more powerful than Savage Hulk is what you are saying?
And are you saying that Thor can affect someone when the brunt of a force, that without touching them, disintegrated countless beings who ALL have the durability of an average Savage Hulk and destroyed a planet also didn't harm him?
[b]How many times more force did WBH experience colliding with Betty than all the ones who were disintegrated felt? Clearly more than a million more times.
Can Thor disintegrate just one of those characters with an attack? Can Thor disintegrate ALL of those characters with an attack? Can Thor attack with the power 1 million times greater than an attack that can disintegrate ALL those characters?You are the one trolling son. Show me an attack made by Thor that is well beyond the power and energy what Hulk survived when he collided with Betty and then we can talk. [/B]
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So, essentially, what you're saying here is that HoTM Hulk is beyond the beings whom Thor has effected before which include skyfathers and beyond?