Thor vs WBH

Started by PillarofOsiris7 pages

For someone who dismisses Thor's numerous high end feats (which have occurred over decades of continuity), he sure places A LOT of stock in ONE SINGLE feat. Basically, your entire argument is stemming from one feat, which isn't nearly as impressive as you think it is. Despite what someone people here claim, WBH DIED from a planet-buster.

And LOL at this line:

"Prove that WBH's blunt force and energy blast durability wasn't infinite"

No, buddy, the burden of proof is on you to prove IT IS INFINITE.

I don't even know why I'm bothering to argue with someone who thinks Rune King Thor can't even hurt WBH, and who thinks WBH is ONE MILLION TIMES STRONGER than Savage Hulk.

(and people gave me sh** for saying that based on showings of WM Thor, a non-holding back Superman was 10x stronger than Thor, although I still stand by it).

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
LOL at this line:
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
WBH DIED from a planet-buster.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
For someone who dismisses Thor's numerous high end feats (which have occurred over decades of continuity), he sure places A LOT of stock in ONE SINGLE feat. Basically, your entire argument is stemming from one feat, which isn't nearly as impressive as you think it is. Despite what someone people here claim, WBH DIED from a planet-buster.

And LOL at this line:

"Prove that WBH's blunt force and energy blast durability wasn't infinite"

No, buddy, the burden of proof is on you to prove IT IS INFINITE.

I don't even know why I'm bothering to argue with someone who thinks Rune King Thor can't even hurt WBH, and who thinks WBH is ONE MILLION TIMES STRONGER than Savage Hulk.

(and people gave me sh** for saying that based on showings of WM Thor, a non-holding back Superman was 10x stronger than Thor, although I still stand by it).

Quoting me out of context doesn't help you or me.

WBH didn't die he was very much fine as shown.

No! WBH is over a million times stronger than an AVERAGE Savage Hulk. Please keep up.

Dismiss Thor's high feats? Uhm no. How about argue that both high and low showings occur in comics consistently, otherwise we would get contradictions don't you think?

It wasn't a planet buster that WBH endured. Forget the planet, they disintegrated beings that have durability well beyond planetary without even touching them. Imagine the force WBH felt in comparison to the force they felt.

Originally posted by h1a8
Let me say this so that you will understand. Not even the highest of the highests feats made by those characters can match the force WBH experience when colliding with Betty.

If WBH is even 100 times stronger than an average Savage Hulk then yes he can kill Thor with a pinky. The problem is WBH is prehaps millions (if not more) more powerful than an average Savage Hulk.

The calculation came from halfing the ratio of the force needed to achieve what both WBH and Betty achieved. A million is actually much lower than the true number. Think about it. How many times the force two objects colliding would experience if they destroyed an object from a hundreds of yards away? If you hit your fists together with 100lbs of force then guess how much force from that impact alone was experienced from a hundred yards away. It's much less than a million times my friend.

Why are you doing this to yourself? Just stop it. Jesus Christ H1. I'm starting to actually feel bad.

An atomic bomb will have a most destructive effect if detonated on the sky that in actual ground level. Iirc is even the way missiles are designed.

Also in hulk annual 14 iirc again Hulk created an earthquake in Colorado that was felt in Denmark.

That earthquake crossed the whole earth.

Also there ate some examples of hulk almost reaching critical mass since the 80 or 90. WBH is hulk on critical mass. The high levels of stress in which he almost achieved critical mass indicate that critical mass or WBH is an stage of hulk in which he is in control of it. The other incarnations lack this hability, but they were close to achieve it.

Come to mind "baby" hulk in IH300, but there is at least two more incarnation that actually were closer to reach critical mass.

WBH wins 10/10 Spite.

*sees current state of the thread*

Originally posted by h1a8
Quoting me out of context doesn't help you or me.

WBH didn't die he was very much fine as shown.

No! WBH is over a million times stronger than an AVERAGE Savage Hulk. Please keep up.

Dismiss Thor's high feats? Uhm no. How about argue that both high and low showings occur in comics consistently, otherwise we would get contradictions don't you think?

It wasn't a planet buster that WBH endured. Forget the planet, they disintegrated beings that have durability well beyond planetary without even touching them. Imagine the force WBH felt in comparison to the force they felt.

He was fine because the wish brought him back to life. Explain how I quoted you out of context. Did you, or did you not ask him to "prove his durability isn't infinite"? It's either yes or no. There's no context. And claiming WBH is a MILLION times stronger than Savage Hulk (oh, I'm sorry, AVERAGE Savage Hulk) is an utterly ridiculous claim.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
*sees current state of the thread*

Indeed

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
He was fine because the wish brought him back to life. Explain how I quoted you out of context. Did you, or did you not ask him to "prove his durability isn't infinite"? It's either yes or no. There's no context. And claiming WBH is a MILLION times stronger than Savage Hulk (oh, I'm sorry, AVERAGE Savage Hulk) is an utterly ridiculous claim.

There is context because it was a rhetorical question. After the question I said, "I'm not saying it's infinite but obviously you don't know the limits in which WBH can withstand forces." This means I didn't want him to prove it and neither did I think it was infinite. Basically, I went the wordy route in trying to say, "Prove an upper bound of WBH's durability." My fault.

Prove that he died. Because the comic never showed him dead but always alive and the comic never said he died either.

It's not a ridiculous claim if you know the magnitude of the feat. You don't and that's why you think it's ridiculous. I'll prove the magnitude simply here:

1. Can an average Savage Hulk generate enough force to disintegrate just one of his peers? The answer is no since it would take AT LEAST 100 times his strength to do it.

2. Can he generate enough force to disintegrate about 20 peers of his?
Again, the answer is no since it would take at least 100x20 times his strength to do it.

3. Can he generate HALF the force to disintegrate countless peers of his from hundreds of yards away WITHOUT TOUCHING THEM?
Again, the answer is no since it would take at least 1/2 * 1000x100x20 times his strength to do so.

Note: 1/2 * 1000x100x20 is 1 million. It was more than 20 peers that was disintegrated ALONG with a planet being destroyed. It was mindless ones that was disintegrated. Mindless ones have feats of mining neutron stars without any harm done to them. It takes more than 1000x more force to do x amount of damage from more than a hundred yards away without touching the object you are trying to damage.

Now do you understand?

ugh

Fight!
YouTube video

no evidence to say WBH died...WBH wins this shit

yeah he and shulkie werent killed and although I got the impression umar was killed, apparently she wasnt among the desintegrated folks either.

yea its kinda hard to argue that he was killed when he have never seen him hurt ha

WBH wins easily

If Thor does that, Hulk will win. Otherwise Thor takes it.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
He was fine because the wish brought him back to life.
Is this really being debated? It actually says this in the story. Everything in that story was driven by the wishes. That was the entire point to the story.

Uggh! again.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Is this really being debated? It actually says this in the story. Everything in that story was driven by the wishes. That was the entire point to the story.

Uggh! again.

Even though we clearly see him withstanding the blast? Do you have scans of him being hurt because I have scans of him tanking it?