Thor vs WBH

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i don't see how this is sensible

1) since the feat wasn't quantified, for all you know that initial impact between hulk and red she-hulk could have been a lot more than it takes to completely destroy a planet, which it undeniably was as the planet itself wasn't even directly struck and a lot of force was sent towards space and not directly say, to character x's chest/face

2) i for one don't believe a blow that powerful even scaled to a 3rd is something thor wants to take on the chin, especially thor as of late, and then it goes backwards since if you're inclined to say it was a shared feat and something hulk cannot replicate, then hulk is able to shrug off a blow that powerful and not slow down in the slightest. a fist fight with that is silly to say the least

You don't think it's sensible to say that the Hulk can't kill Thor without touching him?

Of course if the Hulk hits the planet directly he's going to destroy it.
I don't see what you're arguing to be honest. My vote already went to the Hulk if it goes into a melee. I've never denied Hulk has planet busting power and I know just how crazy that feat was. That said, it wasn't his alone. And it doesn't get to be attributed to him as if it were. Is it still amazing? yes. Does it mean Hulk can thump his chest and Kill Thor or horribly injure him like H1 seems to try to be saying? No. No lol.

If Thor fight the Hulk as if he were still savage Hulk he's going to get worked. But Thor isn't know for his lack of durability and his history has more than enough to back it up. The recent list of low showings that have been going his way have not changed that in my opinion.

Originally posted by h1a8

Oh, solely based off the force that WBH withstood from colliding with Betty then not even King Thor, Odin, or Rune King Thor harm him directly.

Originally posted by Damborgson
You don't think it's sensible to say that the Hulk can't kill Thor without touching him?

Of course if the Hulk hits the planet directly he's going to destroy it.
I don't see what you're arguing to be honest. My vote already went to the Hulk if it goes into a melee. I've never denied Hulk has planet busting power and I know just how crazy that feat was. That said, it wasn't his alone. And it doesn't get to be attributed to him as if it were. Is it still amazing? yes. Does it mean Hulk can thump his chest and Kill Thor or horribly injure him like H1 seems to try to be saying? No. No lol.

If Thor fight the Hulk as if he were still savage Hulk he's going to get worked. But Thor isn't know for his lack of durability and his history has more than enough to back it up. The recent list of low showings that have been going his way have not changed that in my opinion.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
nobody is saying anything about killing thor, knocking him out though.....

I will ask the OP before I give a vote.

Can Thor use Warrior Madness?

Originally posted by Damborgson

Originally posted by psycho gundam
problem?

Depends.

Originally posted by Damborgson
What does that have to do with anything at all in any way shape or form?

So Hulk has better durability then skyfathers or abstracts? K.

ah exactly 1 million? Nice calculation.

Of course Thor's high feats are PIS. Heaven forbid Hulk's be though.

At least I know now that you are saying Hulk > Celestial durability.

H1 as fun as this is....stop.

I REALLY hope he doesn't really mean Hulk has better durability than a Celestial. But at this point I'm not so sure. Carver is starting to get a run for his money.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
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How does it feel to instantly destroy any credibility you may have had on the forum?

Originally posted by Damborgson
What does that have to do with anything at all in any way shape or form?

So Hulk has better durability then skyfathers or abstracts? K.

ah exactly 1 million? Nice calculation.

Of course Thor's high feats are PIS. Heaven forbid Hulk's be though.

At least I know now that you are saying Hulk > Celestial durability.

H1 as fun as this is....stop.

Durability in comics fluctuates. We have both low and high showings. If one showing has a Celestial not being affected by a Odin blast and another has one where Thor affected it with a blast then we must accept that the later was a low showing for the Celestial and NOT that Thor is greater than his father in which Thor was exerting a force beyond planet destroying.

The argument that since Thor has affected X characters means that he can affect WBH is faulty. It leads to stupid contradictions, such as a gas station can affect anyone of Superman's durability or that Thor is beyond his father in power output.

Originally posted by Damborgson
You don't think it's sensible to say that the Hulk can't kill Thor without touching him?

Of course if the Hulk hits the planet directly he's going to destroy it.
I don't see what you're arguing to be honest. My vote already went to the Hulk if it goes into a melee. I've never denied Hulk has planet busting power and I know just how crazy that feat was. That said, it wasn't his alone. And it doesn't get to be attributed to him as if it were. Is it still amazing? yes. Does it mean Hulk can thump his chest and Kill Thor or horribly injure him like H1 seems to try to be saying? No. No lol.

If Thor fight the Hulk as if he were still savage Hulk he's going to get worked. But Thor isn't know for his lack of durability and his history has more than enough to back it up. The recent list of low showings that have been going his way have not changed that in my opinion.

I never implied that WBH can kill or even harm Thor without touching him. I said he can harm him with a pinky (through physical hitting). The feat proves that he was well beyond 1 million times that of an average Savage Hulk.

The feat proves not only strength but WBH's durability, but more so the durability. It being a shared feat doesn't take away from WBH's durability of the feat, just the strength of the feat (which is the only thing shared).

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
I REALLY hope he doesn't really mean Hulk has better durability than a Celestial. But at this point I'm not so sure. Carver is starting to get a run for his money.

Do you think Thor should be allowed to affect one when his father can't? Do you now see that there is a such thing as a low showing (Celestials being affected by Thor). So the argument that Thor affected X means that he can affect Y is faulty when it leads to a contradiction. Otherwise, a gas station can affect anyone with Superman level durability.

Originally posted by h1a8
I didn't destroy ANY credibility.

You sorta did...

Originally posted by h1a8
I didn't destroy ANY credibility.

Yes, actually, yes, you did.

Saying Thor bereft of amps or whatnot can't feasibly harm WBH at all is pretty ri-goddamn-diculous. You took it a step further and claimed that King Thor, Odin, and Rune King Thor can't harm directly. That statement, which you're quite apparently very serious about, obliterates the credibility you may have had by those who appreciated your hyper-realistic/numbers game when it comes to these threads.

King Thor slags Adamantium, burns through Cap's shield, and is able to one shot behead the Destroyer Armor animated by a being who is incredibly fortified against godly attacks and essences...but he can't directly harm WBH?

Odin's power at its peak is enough to reignite dead stars, destroy galaxies, and shake the multiverse...yet he can't directly harm WBH?

Rune King Thor, who surpassed Odin in both knowledge and power, and easily disposed of two skyfather beings with no effort whatsoever and a complete level of mastery of the Rune Magic and Odin Force alike and is likely Elder God in status and power...can't directly harm WBH?

Not even Carver would go that far as he has the common sense to realize, albeit begrudgingly, that these characters would kick Hulk's shit in with various degrees of ease. Most of the reasonable Hulk fans and even some of his fanboys on KMC will also agree that while WBH was impressive - which he totally was - he's not no-selling the kind of power level we're talking about now.

I'm undecided if you're just a pretty masterful troll or if you really don't comprehend the comics you claim to read.

Originally posted by h1a8

Durability in comics fluctuates. We have both low and high showings. If one showing has a Celestial not being affected by a Odin blast and another has one where Thor affected it with a blast then we must accept that the later was a low showing for the Celestial and NOT that Thor is greater than his father in which Thor was exerting a force beyond planet destroying.

The argument that since Thor has affected X characters means that he can affect WBH is faulty. It leads to stupid contradictions, such as a gas station can affect anyone of Superman's durability or that Thor is beyond his father in power output.

I never implied that WBH can kill or even harm Thor without touching him. I said he can harm him with a pinky (through physical hitting). The feat proves that he was well beyond 1 million times that of an average Savage Hulk.

The feat proves not only strength but WBH's durability, but more so the durability. It being a shared feat doesn't take away from WBH's durability of the feat, just the strength of the feat (which is the only thing shared).

Or Thor is beastly and gets high feats? You can't discredit high feats because you don't like them H1.

This is the the eqivalent of your argument: "No, we can't use any high feats for Thor because if they surpass anyone that is in higher weight class then they instantly become PIS. We can only use the feats I deem are appropriate for him."

You can use just as much faulty logic as you want, but fact is your word is worthless. You obviously see the Hulk as some sort of abstract being. If you truly believe that not even Elder gods can affect him.

you said Hulk would kill Thor with a pinky. You also said he'd no sell his godblast, and no sell anything CIS-less Thor would dish out. You have issues.

Good calculation again btw. Exactly 1 milion times stronger. What formula did you use to figure that one out?

His durability is still not superior to the beings Thor has affected. This is what you don't understand.

Thor doesn't affect skyfathers then lose his capability of affecting the Hulk.

Originally posted by h1a8
This is WBH from HOTM not HULK. Watch your tone Mr! 😠
Nothing shown was able to harm WBH at the end of the arc.

Are saying that Thor can affect WBH even though beings on par with savage Hulk couldn't phase him in the slightest? Is Thor astronomically more powerful than Savage Hulk is what you are saying?

And are you saying that Thor can affect someone when the brunt of a force, that without touching them, disintegrated countless beings who ALL have the durability of an average Savage Hulk and destroyed a planet also didn't harm him?

[b]How many times more force did WBH experience colliding with Betty than all the ones who were disintegrated felt? Clearly more than a million more times.
Can Thor disintegrate just one of those characters with an attack? Can Thor disintegrate ALL of those characters with an attack? Can Thor attack with the power 1 million times greater than an attack that can disintegrate ALL those characters?

You are the one trolling son. Show me an attack made by Thor that is well beyond the power and energy what Hulk survived when he collided with Betty and then we can talk. [/B]

LMFAO at this BS logic!!!

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
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How does it feel to instantly destroy any credibility you may have had on the forum?

He never had one to begin with!!

Originally posted by h1a8
Oh, solely based off the force that WBH withstood from colliding with Betty then not even King Thor, Odin, or Rune King Thor harm him directly.

King Thor, Odin, or Rune King Thor would literally cremate Hulk a$$!!!

This statement basically seals the deal that H1a8 doesn't 🤨 he talking about, and talks out of his a$$. H1 has proven he is the biggest Troll King on this site, and the says a lot!

h1 has trapped you all.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yes, actually, yes, you did.

Saying Thor bereft of amps or whatnot can't feasibly harm WBH at all is pretty ri-goddamn-diculous. You took it a step further and claimed that King Thor, Odin, and Rune King Thor can't harm directly. That statement, which you're quite apparently very serious about, obliterates the credibility you may have had by those who appreciated your hyper-realistic/numbers game when it comes to these threads.

Also, my other points still stand though. About low showings in comics and what not. So basically you are arguing a moot point.

King Thor slags Adamantium, burns through Cap's shield, and is able to one shot behead the Destroyer Armor animated by a being who is incredibly fortified against godly attacks and essences...but he can't directly harm WBH?

Odin's power at its peak is enough to reignite dead stars, destroy galaxies, and shake the multiverse...yet he can't directly harm WBH?

Also, Galaxies aren't very durable in terms of trans level durability or greater.

Rune King Thor, who surpassed Odin in both knowledge and power, and easily disposed of two skyfather beings with no effort whatsoever and a complete level of mastery of the Rune Magic and Odin Force alike and is likely Elder God in status and power...can't directly harm WBH?

Not even Carver would go that far as he has the common sense to realize, albeit begrudgingly, that these characters would kick Hulk's shit in with various degrees of ease. Most of the reasonable Hulk fans and even some of his fanboys on KMC will also agree that while WBH was impressive - which he totally was - he's not no-selling the kind of power level we're talking about now.

I'm undecided if you're just a pretty masterful troll or if you really don't comprehend the comics you claim to read.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Or Thor is beastly and gets high feats? You can't discredit high feats because you don't like them H1.

This is the the eqivalent of your argument: "No, we can't use any high feats for Thor because if they surpass anyone that is in higher weight class then they instantly become PIS. We can only use the feats I deem are appropriate for him."

You can use just as much faulty logic as you want, but fact is your word is worthless. You obviously see the Hulk as some sort of abstract being. If you truly believe that not even Elder gods can affect him.

you said Hulk would kill Thor with a pinky. You also said he'd no sell his godblast, and no sell anything CIS-less Thor would dish out. You have issues.

Good calculation again btw. Exactly 1 milion times stronger. What formula did you use to figure that one out?

His durability is still not superior to the beings Thor has affected. This is what you don't understand.

Thor doesn't affect skyfathers then lose his capability of affecting the Hulk.

Let me say this so that you will understand. Not even the highest of the highests feats made by those characters can match the force WBH experience when colliding with Betty.

If WBH is even 100 times stronger than an average Savage Hulk then yes he can kill Thor with a pinky. The problem is WBH is prehaps millions (if not more) more powerful than an average Savage Hulk.

The calculation came from halfing the ratio of the force needed to achieve what both WBH and Betty achieved. A million is actually much lower than the true number. Think about it. How many times the force two objects colliding would experience if they destroyed an object from a hundreds of yards away? If you hit your fists together with 100lbs of force then guess how much force from that impact alone was experienced from a hundred yards away. It's much less than a million times my friend.

Originally posted by the Darkone
LMFAO at this BS logic!!!

This is WBH from HOTM not HULK. Watch your tone Mr!
Nothing shown was able to harm WBH at the end of the arc.

Are saying that Thor can affect WBH even though beings on par with savage Hulk couldn't phase him in the slightest? Is Thor astronomically more powerful than Savage Hulk is what you are saying?

And are you saying that Thor can affect someone when the brunt of a force, that without touching them, disintegrated countless beings who ALL have the durability of an average Savage Hulk and destroyed a planet also didn't harm him?

How many times more force did WBH experience colliding with Betty than all the ones who were disintegrated felt? Clearly more than a million more times.
Can Thor disintegrate just one of those characters with an attack? Can Thor disintegrate ALL of those characters with an attack? Can Thor attack with the power 1 million times greater than an attack that can disintegrate ALL those characters?

You are the one trolling son. Show me an attack made by Thor that is well beyond the power and energy what Hulk survived when he collided with Betty and then we can talk.