Darth Nihilus and Darth Traya - vs - DE Sidious and DE Luke

Started by Major Valerian21 pages

Btw, you did read the rest of what I said after that, right?

I'm referring to your signature, CRISIS.

Well if her association with you was made public, I don't blame them.

Originally posted by crisis_ryitua
Well if her association with you was made public, I don't blame them.

I'll give you a few minutes to reconsider this post, and try for a better comeback, bro.

Originally posted by Major Valerian
Btw, you did read the rest of what I said after that, right?

I'm referring to your signature, CRISIS.

yes

SM
I'll give you a few minutes to reconsider this post, and try for a better comeback, bro.

If I want my comeback, I'd hand you a napkin. excellent

Originally posted by crisis_ryitua
You can use the order tracker to see if it can still be cancelled.

Outlook bleak.

by which i mean no

Originally posted by crisis_ryitua
If I want my comeback, I'd hand you a napkin. excellent

A little better.

Amazon usually gives you a discount if they don't get it to you when you wanted.

I like how SW character talk is gradually decreased to irrelevant, more fun talk.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
A little better.

Which means a lot better than yours. 😄

Originally posted by crisis_ryitua
Which means a lot better than yours. 😄

No, not really.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
No, not really.

Yes, yes really.

upbjockey

No, but seriously. I voted for Nihilus and co.

Originally posted by Nephthys
This conflicts with what the games tells us and is pretty much baseless speculation.

What game tells us? All I remember is one of the characters saying that he was holding ship together. Does it say how? And do we believe him? According to Luke in Apocalypse there is no balance in the Force because Anakin refused to take Father's throne. Do we believe him as well?

If it was Nihilus' pure TK holding ship. Then explain how did he manage to keep that "ship grip" on while engaging in lightsaber combat against 3 characters, using various Force powers and getting weakened TWICE in the process? Did he have some sort of uber concentration? No one can focus on so many things simultaneously.
At least I attempted to bring up some "realistic"explanation that his darkside nexus was holding ship. Can you give any better?
Because I don't see any reason why he didn't snap Exile's neck with casual flick of finger, when he had power to "casually hold ship together with sheer power of his will".

Originally posted by Arhael
What game tells us? All I remember is one of the characters saying that he was holding ship together. Does it say how? And do we believe him? According to Luke in Apocalypse there is no balance in the Force because Anakin refused to take Father's throne. Do we believe him as well?

If it was Nihilus' pure TK holding ship. Then explain how did he manage to keep that "ship grip" on while engaging in lightsaber combat against 3 characters, using various Force powers and getting weakened TWICE in the process? Did he have some sort of uber concentration? No one can focus on so many things simultaneously.
At least I attempted to bring up some "realistic"explanation that his darkside nexus was holding ship. Can you give any better?
Because I don't see any reason why he didn't snap Exile's neck with casual flick of finger, when he had power to "casually hold ship together with sheer power of his will".

You really ought to read more carefully through the thread. It's been confirmed that the game's loading screen confirms Tobin's assertion.

Does it? I can only recall a screen saying he ripped the ship off of Malachor V. Furthermore, the ship manges to stay together fine even when Nihilus is dead.

From a warships design, he couldn't have actually done this. They have a shield over their docking bays in order to keep the atmospehere and people in. But there is no way into them short of using a shuttle. He probably just pulled a shuttle down to the planet and took it up to the Ravager, which he then used the Force to pull out of the gravity well. It was probably on the edge of it as well. I am attempting to use logic for this. However, it is early. So there you go.

Originally posted by Arhael
What game tells us? All I remember is one of the characters saying that he was holding ship together. Does it say how? And do we believe him? According to Luke in Apocalypse there is no balance in the Force because Anakin refused to take Father's throne. Do we believe him as well?

If it was Nihilus' pure TK holding ship. Then explain how did he manage to keep that "ship grip" on while engaging in lightsaber combat against 3 characters, using various Force powers and getting weakened TWICE in the process? Did he have some sort of uber concentration? No one can focus on so many things simultaneously.
At least I attempted to bring up some "realistic"explanation that his darkside nexus was holding ship. Can you give any better?
Because I don't see any reason why he didn't snap Exile's neck with casual flick of finger, when he had power to "casually hold ship together with sheer power of his will".

The implication is that something petty like holding a ship together during space travel is so minor to Nihilus he barely notices he does it.

That's part of Nihilus's character, he is such a Force aberration that his presence alone holds a great deal of power, being around him saps your will and makes you a mindless slave without any effort on his part.

Why should holding the ship together be much different?

Becuase the "mindless slave" thing is because he is a Wound, as the Exile does the same thing, she just doesn't subjugate her companions (its probably something to do with whether or not they fell to the Dark Side, but I am not qutie sure) while TK to hold a ship together in hyperspace would require quite a bit of effort, no matter how strong they are (because one slip up and it gets torn apart as soon as it drops out, because obviously there is no friction in hyperspace) So it may just be my personal belief, but I think that to hold that thing together he actually had to extend some amount of concious effort.

Originally posted by NemeBro
The implication is that something petty like holding a ship together during space travel is so minor to Nihilus he barely notices he does it.
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Why should holding the ship together be much different?

Holding the ship together during acceleration would be quite different from holding it together during cruising periods. The forces put on the ship's compromised frame by active burn of the engines could tear it apart, that is what N. is counteracting. Simply floating through space (as during orbit, which was the case during the lightsaber fight) would require little to no active measures.