Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Summoning them, no. I mean like controling it's direction and size.
More of a matter of energy - like controlling Force lightning's direction and width as you project it - and not a matter of manipulating a physical object, through the Force, which is what TK, is.
I can see we must be desperate, if we're grasping for anything we can here. 😛
A wormhole would be a projected energy vortex - with the ability to fuel it's own movements, and send an object through a displacement field - and back to it's point of origin, or another.
In other words, it's an energy weapon - reversed, and not TK, but an energetic fuel-cell.
Apparently, though, he can't make these things close to him, and doesn't have perfect control with them. (I thought he did, initially)
Originally posted by Battlemaster
Plus, despite his will, he couldn't even control his own storms.
He did control his force storms though. The only time he lost control was when Luke and Leia bathed him in a "wall of light", which took far more concentration and time from them than it was for Palpatine to summon a one.
Originally posted by Battlemaster
More of a matter of energy - like controlling Force lightning's direction and width as you project it - and not a matter of manipulating a physical object, through the Force, which is what TK, is.
No, force lightning is not comparable. At the center of the storm is a gravitational force strong enough to pull ships in, ripping them to pieces. It seems like it would take a lot of control with TK to move it's direction and then to close it back up.
Originally posted by Battlemaster
I can see we must be desperate, if we're grasping for anything we can here. 😛
lol... Not at all girl. It was just a question.
Originally posted by Arhael
One of the theories about Force Storm is that Sidious applied Force TK to accelerate particles to move at enormous speed as result creating wormholes.
Darth Rivan iirc, made a staff that did a similar effect. If true, that would imply that he imbued an object with enough Force/TK power to do things we cannot do in our own era.
That kind of upsets the applecart.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
He did control his force storms though. The only time he lost control was when Luke and Leia bathed him in a "wall of light", which took far more concentration and time from them than it was for Palpatine to summon a one.
I've been led to believe before, that Palpy still needed much concentration to cast Storms, and that his control of them was still very fragile and limited.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
No, force lightning is not comparable. At the center of the storm is a gravitational force strong enough to pull ships in, ripping them to pieces. It seems like it would take a lot of control with TK to move it's direction and then to close it back up.
Basically, a hole in space/time is opened - a cyclonic-action is generated one-way, to allow objects to pass into the hole - and an opening is opened elsewhere in the universe to bring those objects out the other side.
Since the cyclonic-action does all the job of moving the physcial matter itself - moving the funnel would take zero TK strength - since you're just moving non-corporeal energy - almost like how a child wouldn't have a problem moving a long/thick lightsaber blade.
Somebody could go, "That kid is five, it's huge! He shouldn't be able to move it so easily!"
"It's just energy."
Closing the hole back up is a matter of simply having it recede the time/space layers, which again, is more of an energy-based matter.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
lol... Not at all girl. It was just a question.
Wigga, please. 😛
I swear, the "GIGA-DRAIN WINZ LUL" is getting really old. Its on here for like, 3 pages (Note, I did not go back to confirm that, screw it)
Sidious and Luke win. Traya's ONLY hope is the drain, and she has been shown to do it ONCE against targets who were PREPARED for a fight, but not prepared to have the life sucked out of them (as it seems it was a fairly unknown technique, considering how she just did it to them and if they were "prepared for anything" they would have been prepared for it)
And Nihilus has less in-fight TK feats than anybody here (barring Traya, not sure about her) because it takes a LOT of concentration for major TK, as has been shown quite often.
Originally posted by Pwned
I swear, the "GIGA-DRAIN WINZ LUL" is getting really old. Its on here for like, 3 pages (Note, I did not go back to confirm that, screw it)Sidious and Luke win. Traya's ONLY hope is the drain, and she has been shown to do it ONCE against targets who were PREPARED for a fight, but not prepared to have the life sucked out of them (as it seems it was a fairly unknown technique, considering how she just did it to them and if they were "prepared for anything" they would have been prepared for it)
And Nihilus has less in-fight TK feats than anybody here (barring Traya, not sure about her) because it takes a LOT of concentration for major TK, as has been shown quite often.
Warship stuck in Gravity Well>3 Senate pods
With TK, Nihilus crushes Luke and Sid's like bugs.
With the Planet-level Giga-drain that is related to Kreia's as confirmed by the Canon postings you must have missed or not read carefully enough, Nihilus om-noms the two poor Sith.
In a way, adding Traya is overkill. 😛
Edit: Canon states there is no defense against her Drain - except being a Force Wound.
If Sidious and Luke can turn themselves into Force Wounds - then they've got a fighting chance. 😉
Originally posted by PwnedNihilus casually keeps his flagship together by sheer force of will in space. While also mentally enslaving those under him.
I swear, the "GIGA-DRAIN WINZ LUL" is getting really old. Its on here for like, 3 pages (Note, I did not go back to confirm that, screw it)Sidious and Luke win. Traya's ONLY hope is the drain, and she has been shown to do it ONCE against targets who were PREPARED for a fight, but not prepared to have the life sucked out of them (as it seems it was a fairly unknown technique, considering how she just did it to them and if they were "prepared for anything" they would have been prepared for it)
And Nihilus has less in-fight TK feats than anybody here (barring Traya, not sure about her) because it takes a LOT of concentration for major TK, as has been shown quite often.
I'm pretty sure large-scale TK isn't that taxing for the guy who eats planets with a word. Nihilus is less of a Sith and more like a force of nature.
Also, your argument sucks. "Herp no battle TK feats" ***** please, Nihilus's feat of telekinesis is as far as my recollection goes the best here, yet you would have us believe that somehow the others can apply their telekinesis in combat better "just cuz"? **** no, feats or gtfo.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Nihilus casually keeps his flagship together by sheer force of will in space. While also mentally enslaving those under him.I'm pretty sure large-scale TK isn't that taxing for the guy who eats planets with a word. Nihilus is less of a Sith and more like a force of nature.
Also, your argument sucks. "Herp no battle TK feats" ***** please, Nihilus's feat of telekinesis is as far as my recollection goes the best here, yet you would have us believe that somehow the others can apply their telekinesis in combat better "just cuz"? **** no, feats or gtfo.
Amen to that.