More Durable: Exitar or Juggernaut?

Started by quanchi11210 pages

Originally posted by h1a8
Now you are trolling by ignoring direct evidence. It was stated in the comic that Thor regained his strength, yet you keep ignoring it (which is trolling).

Also you are ignoring the variability of durability of Mjolnir from writer to writer.
Explain why Mjlonir is able to block the Destroyer's D beams yet get split in half by a weaker Destroyer blast with another writer.

He wasn't at full strength. Thor was against Exitar which it doesn't really matter since he destroyed his own hammer showing more power was used.

I don't have to explain it. One writer showing the hammer being destroyed is emphasizing the power being used. That was definitely the case against Exitar.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Don't worry you're on my side as well .

Thank God! I thought I was going to the Dark side of the force like Quanicakes 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
He wasn't at full strength. Thor was against Exitar which it doesn't really matter since he destroyed his own hammer showing more power was used.

I don't have to explain it. One writer showing the hammer being destroyed is emphasizing the power being used. That was definitely the case against Exitar.

The comic said he regained his strength, not part of his strength. The writer's intentions are clear. Also, are you saying that fluctuations in durability don't exist in comics, especially from writer to writer?

If so then how can you explain low showings and high showings or showings that contradict other showings? Also, how can you explain the writer's comments about Thor hitting Juggs with the same attack that drove back Galactus and made a Celestial pause? What was the writer trying to convey here? What was he trying to show?

Originally posted by quanchi112
He wasn't at full strength. Thor was against Exitar which it doesn't really matter since he destroyed his own hammer showing more power was used.

I don't have to explain it. One writer showing the hammer being destroyed is emphasizing the power being used. That was definitely the case against Exitar.

👆 This makes perfect sense.

Originally posted by h1a8
The comic said he regained his strength, not part of his strength. The writer's intentions are clear. Also, are you saying that fluctuations in durability don't exist in comics, especially from writer to writer?

If so then how can you explain low showings and high showings or showings that contradict other showings? Also, how can you explain the writer's comments about Thor hitting Juggs with the same attack that drove back Galactus and made a Celestial pause? What was the writer trying to convey here? What was he trying to show?

I am saying the hammer was destroyed showed the blast was more powerful. I guess all blasts are equal from writer to writer. You even destroy your own case by your points.

Juggernaut was standing still when Thor hit him with the Godblast and Thor did rant on about becoming one with his uru mallet and a blast the hurled back galactus and gave pause to a mighty celestial. A stationary juggernaut got knocked back a step or 2 but then started to get his forward momentum and the ground gave way and Thor BFR'd him

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am saying the hammer was destroyed showed the blast was more powerful. I guess all blasts are equal from writer to writer. You even destroy your own case by your points.
The hammer was written with a lower durability than the other times. You are right though, all blasts aren't necessarily equal UNLESS the writer explicitly states it to be. In this case, it was the writer's intention for the blast to be the same level of power.

Originally posted by h1a8
The hammer was written with a lower durability than the other times. You are right though, all blasts aren't necessarily equal UNLESS the writer explicitly states it to be. In this case, it was the writer's intention for the blast to be the same level of power.
Since the hammer was destroyed the blast wasn't of equal power. The hammer being destroyed shows us this.

Originally posted by h1a8
The hammer was written with a lower durability than the other times. You are right though, all blasts aren't necessarily equal UNLESS the writer explicitly states it to be. In this case, it was the writer's intention for the blast to be the same level of power.

Show the panel in which it is stated/implied that Mjolnir was of lower durability .

Originally posted by janus77
cheap arse "Celestial tech" + Hulk >>>> Juggernaut.
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Juggernaut was not hurt at all in that showing, Hulk failed to even scratch him, so if we go by that logic.

Juggernaut durability>>> cheap arse "Celestial tech" + Hulk

Originally posted by Reacting2
Juggernaut was not hurt at all in that showing, Hulk failed to even scratch him, so if we go by that logic.

Juggernaut durability>>> cheap arse "Celestial tech" + Hulk

Hulk overpowered his forward momentum.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Here's the scan :
I dont see him hurt at all, do you?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk overpowered his forward momentum.
yet Hulk failed to Hurt him at all, not one single scratch on him

Originally posted by Reacting2
I dont see him hurt at all, do you?

You should read the whole convo , before trying to sound like a smartass . That scan was in response to another poster's remarks that War never stopped Juggs .

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
You should read the whole convo , before trying to sound like a smartass . That scan was in response to another poster's remarks that War never stopped Juggs .
you fail yet again, Juggernaut was not Hurt, so your case is moot

Originally posted by Reacting2
you fail yet again, Juggernaut was not Hurt, so your case us moot

Again , instead of trying to fail at sounding like a smartass , read the whole convo . That scan wasn't posted to show that Juggernaut was hurt . Merely stopped for a brief time before being flung away .

Originally posted by quanchi112
Since the hammer was destroyed the blast wasn't of equal power. The hammer being destroyed shows us this.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Show the panel in which it is stated/implied that Mjolnir was of lower durability .

The consequence of your logic would imply that objects and characters never have variable durability in comics.

If one blast was shown to destroy something and another was shown to not destroy it then we can conclude that either:
1. The first blast has a greater power than the second blast. Or
2. The object's durability changed.

But since the writer stated the blasts to be the same it kills 1. and leaves us with 2.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Again , instead of trying to fail at sounding like a smartass , read the whole convo . That scan wasn't posted to show that Juggernaut was hurt . Merely stopped for a brief time before being flung away .
and.... this is still irrelevant to this thread

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Again , instead of trying to fail at sounding like a smartass , read the whole convo . That scan wasn't posted to show that Juggernaut was hurt . Merely stopped for a brief time before being flung away .
What does that have to do with this thread??

it only proves that the celestial tech+hulk roughly equals thors god blast in kinetic force

Has nothing to do with damaging juggs

Originally posted by h1a8

It doesn't have to state but show it. Obviously it was the same blast because the writer said so. Thus the durability of Mjolnir had to be lower than the other writer who written it to be.

Unless and until its been stated on-panel that it was of lower durability , then it's still an assumtion on your part . The writer , through Thor's words , merely mentioned that this was a particular attack that Thor had used against Galactus and a Celestial(with varying degrees of success) . If you know , then an attack can be of different intensity . Thor usually holds back against denizens of Midguard . Go figure .
Originally posted by h1a8

The consequence of your logic would imply that objects and characters never have variable durability in comics.

Do you have any evidence to suggest that the uru metal with which the hammer was reforged , was stronger than regular uru ? Or has there been any on-panel indication that after the Exitar incident , Odin strengthened Mjolnir , and gave it a durability boost ? Until and unless on-panel evidence is provided for these questions , we have no choice but to believe that Mjolnir was of the same durability in ALL 3 instances(against Galactus , Exitar and Juggernaut) .