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Originally posted by Blair Wind
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None of this negativity would have taken place if they had done Green Lantern right - he could have been their Iron Man and ushered in a great set of films.

Instead they butchered him. I just hope he doesn't get back burned in future films because of it. "General audiences won't like him" - no, the character is great. They just corrupted his mythos.

Honestly, I don't think it's as much negativity as it is a sort of... Lack of optimism.

I'm hoping MOS will be good. I really am. I'm just not ready to put too much faith in them as yet.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Honestly, I don't think it's as much negativity as it is a sort of... Lack of optimism.

I'm hoping MOS will be good. I really am. I'm just not ready to put too much faith in them as yet.

Originally posted by Newjak
They have some good people casted from what I can tell.

They do. And I trust Snyder. Goyer worries me, though.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
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None of this negativity would have taken place if they had done Green Lantern right - he could have been their Iron Man and ushered in a great set of films.

Instead they butchered him. I just hope he doesn't get back burned in future films because of it. "General audiences won't like him" - no, the character is great. They just corrupted his mythos.

They should copy-paste John Stewart from the cartoon in there. I liked that dude.

Originally posted by -Pr-
They do. And I trust Snyder. Goyer worries me, though.

Looking at his IMDB page as a writer he has some good works mixed in there with some bad.

Originally posted by Newjak
We'll see.

Looking at his IMDB page as a writer he has some good works mixed in there with some bad.

He's a capable writer. I just hate hearing those reports from a while back about how he wanted to base this Superman on the John Byrne version.

Yeah I know how you feel about that version. 😛

Odds are he'll be basing it off a multitude of versions even if he is favoring one over the other.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Not a good idea to set it up as a trilogy with a loose ending Imo. The first needs to be a stand alone movie. If that's a success they can plan more from there.

Why wouldn't it be? It would be safer to go the trilogy route, just like LOTR.

Originally posted by Newjak
Yeah the trinity would have been good to have in their own movies.

Is it true Joseph Gordon-Levitt is planned to be the Batman for the JLA movie, or is that just a rumor that is floating around?

its a rumor amongst a few others.. most likely it won't happen

JGL won't be playing Batman. It's official.

Originally posted by Newjak
Yeah I know how you feel about that version. 😛

Odds are he'll be basing it off a multitude of versions even if he is favoring one over the other.

I just think it's a bit ridiculous to say he's "modernising" superman, but at the same time using a version that's almost thirty years old.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I just think it's a bit ridiculous to say he's "modernising" superman, but at the same time using a version that's almost thirty years old.

Yep. Basically modernising means making weaker, in his eyes. Which is of course bullshit.

Why are you always against the idea of a weaker Superman? 😛

I can get why people think of doing it, as in it makes him more relatable, easier to write, easier to share time with other characters.

I don't agree that's what people should do but I see why they would do it.

Originally posted by Newjak
Why are you always against the idea of a weaker Superman? 😛

I can get why people think of doing it, as in it makes him more relatable, easier to write, easier to share time with other characters.

I don't agree that's what people should do but I see why they would do it.

Because they can't think of anything else, sadly.

Besides, there's a difference between weak, and weakER. 😛

Superman's not all that relatable. He wasn't designed to be. And really, writers and directors need to understand that not every character has to be down to Earth and relatable so that the viewer can sit back and go "Huh, I see a bit of myself in him".

Superman's main draw as a character is because he's an inspiration for what we could be, not what we are. He's larger than life. Always has been. Now, sure, you could have some earnest/down to Earth Clark Kent moments, but really, trying to force Superman into something's he's not is a recipe for disaster. And making characters less powerful doesn't make them easier to relate to; never understood that line of thought.

I think Superman is plenty relatable - he's a guy trying to fit in with others but feels awkward because he's different. All you have to do to make Superman "one of us" is give him a villain who overpowers him in the same way he overpowers us. Then have him win/overcome in some way - he's the ideal. He is what we can strive to be, and we can overcome any obstacles in our path.

I know others don't agree, but Superman Earth One v1 was one of my favorite Superman stories. He's young and trying to find his path.

I honestly feel that they could make a movie out of it by making the enemy look less goth, make the being that gave his people weapons Brianiac, and have some actual action in the movie, and boom - you have a lead in to JLA with Brianiac as the main villain. Someone who supplies technology to people, imprisons specimens, and blows up planets.

I think creators have made various good attempts at making him more human, but he's often portrayed in that larger than life deity-like light. He's portrayed more as a messiah like savior than "one of us", imo. In the first Reeves film, Jor-El even says that while Kal will live among us, he would never be one of us.

That's not to say he isn't a great character; he is, but I think writers are either intimidated or have this idea that a character has to be watered down or extremely relatable to be successful or to tell a good story.

I think Superman can be relatable without being "one of us" as contradictory as that might sound. Yes, he's still Superman, but he's married, has a job etc. There's a duality to his life that needs to be explored more by writers, as most writers end up leaning to one side too much.

Writers like Azzarello, Verheiden, Loeb to an extent and even Johns have shown us that kind of Superman, which is incidentally why I dislike Earth One. Not that it's a bad story; but because people act like Superman has never been written that way.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
I think Superman is plenty relatable - he's a guy trying to fit in with others but feels awkward because he's different. All you have to do to make Superman "one of us" is give him a villain who overpowers him in the same way he overpowers us. Then have him win/overcome in some way - he's the ideal. He is what we can strive to be, and we can overcome any obstacles in our path.

I know others don't agree, but Superman Earth One v1 was one of my favorite Superman stories. He's young and trying to find his path.

I honestly feel that they could make a movie out of it by making the enemy look less goth, make the being that gave his people weapons Brianiac, and have some actual action in the movie, and boom - you have a lead in to JLA with Brianiac as the main villain. Someone who supplies technology to people, imprisons specimens, and blows up planets.

Was earth 1 that good? Going to havr to pick it up.