DC's Shared universe will start with...

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Besides the look of the villain, I enjoyed it. You could even throw Lex into the story by making him the prick businessman in the story.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Why wouldn't it be? It would be safer to go the trilogy route, just like LOTR.

Not really getting how that's safer. But whatever. Main thing is that it's epic.

I think their best bet would be to concentrate on the Trinity, plus introduce Martian Manhunter.

I'm not sure it would work introducing the whole JL in 1 movie. Unless it's like a 3 hr movie.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Because they can't think of anything else, sadly.

Besides, there's a difference between weak, and weakER. 😛

😂 fair enough.

Superman has always been one of my favorite characters because he is the ideal version of everyone and how he's meant to stick to his morals has always been cool to me.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Superman's not all that relatable. He wasn't designed to be. And really, writers and directors need to understand that not every character has to be down to Earth and relatable so that the viewer can sit back and go "Huh, I see a bit of myself in him".

Superman's main draw as a character is because he's an inspiration for what we could be, not what we are. He's larger than life. Always has been. Now, sure, you could have some earnest/down to Earth Clark Kent moments, but really, trying to force Superman into something's he's not is a recipe for disaster. And making characters less powerful doesn't make them easier to relate to; never understood that line of thought.

I can see why it makes him easier to relate to. We as human beings tend to relate better to tragedy I think cause then we understand that someone else can be going through what we go through.

Now depowering him isn't the only way to make someone relatable but it tends to be the easiest for writers, cause they can rely on normal tropes and writing tricks that they are used with more 'human' characters.

I would rather them reach outside of their comfort zone myself.

Also Earth 1 Superman was great imo. The villain's look was off I'll agree with BW on that.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Not really getting how that's safer. But whatever. Main thing is that it's epic.

I think their best bet would be to concentrate on the Trinity, plus introduce Martian Manhunter.

I'm not sure it would work introducing the whole JL in 1 movie. Unless it's like a 3 hr movie.

i suspect the JL film will clock in at around 2 and a half hours to 2 hours and 45 minutes

Guy, we don't even know if there will be a JL movie.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Guy, we don't even know if there will be a JL movie.

After the box office behemoth that was Avengers, we don't really need anything official to know WB will be fast tracking their JL Movie plans.

They're just going to have to figure out how they're going to do that without a successful Solo movie for each hero backing it up.

Since batman is in the movie, jla will automatically do 1B. Thats how popular he is.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Since batman is in the movie, jla will automatically do 1B. Thats how popular he is.

thats only IF they don't frak up this new version of batman

Im more worried about ww or gl than batman.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Im more worried about ww or gl than batman.

im worried about all of it.. WB seems to be rushing this in like of Marvel's success

The script certainly isn't rushed and it won't be coming out until 2015, 2016.

The script has been rushed. It's just been changed so much before, that it seems like it's had longer to stew.

Originally posted by Golgo13
The script certainly isn't rushed and it won't be coming out until 2015, 2016.

but they are.. with the success of thor, cap, both iron man films and now the avengers, wb/dc are in panic mode and are rushing this out.. it doesn;t matter if this isn't coming for another 2 years.. it will still feel a rush job.. besides they haven;t begun hiring actors/actresses for batman, diana, the flash, martian manhunter or green lantern

WB basically backed themselves into a corner. They didn't want to "copy" the Avengers, but now they're going to try and make a half decent JLA film for a '15 release.

Even if Man of Steel is both a critical and financial success (Superman's next to guaranteed to draw off of name alone), they're still going to have to somehow figure out how to bring in their other properties in a huge assemble movie in a way that's fresh and original enough to distance itself from the obvious Avengers comparisons in addition to break their "World's Finest" curse.

Anyone here want to guess as to what formula would work for DC? By that I mean which line up of heroes and villain(s) would work best for a JLA movie, with sequels in mind.

Here's my own take on a formula.

DC phase 1

JLA 1: Legends
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JLA cast:

Superman - for obvious reasons
Batman - sells more than Superman these days
Flash - easy to pull off and a fun character. His background isn't meshed up like some other characters.
Wonder Woman - they could make WW's background and the Amazon's central to the JLA.
Black Canary - Another easy supporting member similar to Black Window.

The plot centrals around a battered Wonder Woman showing up in Metropolis seeking help from Superman. She tells of a meteor crashing on Themyscira but to the Amazonians' horror the thing was alive. A monster a unstoppable rage (Doomsday) rampaging across her home land. He decides to aid her and the two soon find themselves unable to stop the creature, who keeps on evolving pass their attacks. Deciding they needed help, Superman and Diane show up to Gotham to find Batman, seeking his advice on the matter. Bruce decides on a plan, involving Kryptonian tech, and brings Flash and Canary in.

As they reach Themyscira, to their horror, they find out from the remaining Amazonians' that the monster had been trapped and taken by a group of unknown black ops, heavily equipped and trained. As they retreat and monitor the globe for the creature, news break of a creature destroying Lex Corp and rampaging across the city. The team shows up to confront DD yet find themselves at the mercy of the creature who destroys every Kryptonian tech thrown at him. As Superman, WW, and Flash try desperately fight on while Canary and Batman disappear, Bruce notes that not every Kryptonian weapon has been used; the Phantom Zone projector had been broken by Zod when he escaped and thus could not be used. But in such a dire time, Bruce decides to seek out the projector and enlist Luthor's aid in repairing it.

Though due to misunderstanding, Luthor sends his guards to kill both heroes. After a hard fought battle, Luthor gives in and decides to help. When they finally arrive, the heroes had fought Doomsday across multiple states. They were all on there last breathes, unable to stop Doomsday from turning his rage upon the last remaining JLA members. As he charges for them, Superman and the Flash, pushes on one final time, to hold back the monster, who's only some feet away from crushing Batman. Bruce activates the projector, just seconds after Doomsday knocks both heroes away, and ends the threat. The citizens shout with a roar and cheer the heroes on as the President of the United States thanking them for their heroics and their much needed team work in such a crisis.

Ending credit scene: Brainiac watching from above in his ship orbiting Earth. His experiment had broken loose but now he ponders on about a greater threat. The lost son of Krypton now has allies to call on.
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Wonder Woman movie
Aquaman movie

DC phase 2

JLA 2: Atlantis Attacks.
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The death of an Atlantian royal (by Brainiac) instigates a war between Atlantis and the surface world. The heroes find out there's more to this world then they could imagine - along with a very pissed off Aquaman. Their war abruptly ends when both sides realized they had been manipulated. Brainiac reveals that he was behind it all and had hope both side would have killed each other but now he finds he has to do it himself.

Ending scene: On board the defeated Brainiac's ship, the league could monitor the entire globe beyond even Wayne technology. They also stumble upon an invasion force headed for Earth.
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Green Lantern remake
New Gods movie

DC phase 3

JLA 3: The Sinestro War

Honestly, they could almost do the opening arc for the new 52 Justice League panel for panel, page for page, and condense that into a two hour movie.

That might seem incredibly similar to Avengers to a typical movie goer (extra-dimensional god unleashing an army of otherworldly invaders on the planet only for a team of heroes to stop it), but some decent script writing can make it stand on its own.

Though, if it were me, I would probably do a Trinity Movie first, focusing on Bats, Supes, and WW. That would be far easier to do and would flow much better than a full blown JLA movie. Have that film end with the three deciding to form a team of heroes to protect the world and have them look at the dossiers/files on hand on people like GL, Flash, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter (or Cyborg if you wanna go that route).

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Honestly, they could almost do the opening arc for the new 52 Justice League panel for panel, page for page, and condense that into a two hour movie.

That might seem incredibly similar to Avengers to a typical movie goer (extra-dimensional god unleashing an army of otherworldly invaders on the planet only for a team of heroes to stop it), but some decent script writing can make it stand on its own.

Though, if it were me, I would probably do a Trinity Movie first, focusing on Bats, Supes, and WW. That would be far easier to do and would flow much better than a full blown JLA movie. Have that film end with the three deciding to form a team of heroes to protect the world and have them look at the dossiers/files on hand on people like GL, Flash, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter (or Cyborg if you wanna go that route).

So something reminiscent of the Meltzer's JLA arc?

Originally posted by -Pr-
So something reminiscent of the Meltzer's JLA arc?

Yeah, or even an adaptation of sorts of Trinity by Matt Wagner.

I'd be fine with a Trinity movie, tbh. One Superman movie beforehand just feels... Not enough.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I'd be fine with a Trinity movie, tbh. One Superman movie beforehand just feels... Not enough.

Same here.

It establishes Superman as the first hero and the like, but really, people are going to ask just how Batman fits in, and while we all know it won't be TDK-style Batman ala Nolan, most moviegoers won't, and some will be put off because of it.

Trinity would work perfectly because Superman would be established already and then you can set the stage for the type and tone of Batman in a "expanded DC movie-verse" which is critical for the films success simply due to his ridiculous levels of popularity and cash draw. And really, Wonder Woman should be the third most important character in the movie, if not tied alongside Kal and Bruce.

Cramming in the first appearances of new depictions of Batman and Green Lantern in addition to everyone else could be a potential disaster in my mind.