Consensus on being born gay?

Started by Omega Vision23 pages

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
How can I answer this when you've contradicted yourself once again?

First you ask when I made a choice to be sexually attracted to women...then you turn it around to state what methods I used in ruling why women & not men WERE ATTRACTED TO ME.


He meant to say 'attractive'.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Y'see this is how far away from the topic that started as a consensus on being born gay.

I stated from the very beginning of my posts that I didn't believe people are born gay....BASED on my 20 years of running a business within the gay community of Sydney & talking & dealing with gays & lesbians on a daily basis.

Yet the arguments/debate between Rob & I have focussed on how I chose/ decided on being straight...what methods I used to determine my decision. I totally agreed with Rob's answer when I turned the same questions back at him. I understood how he choose to be straight & said yes, that's how I felt about determining my sexuality too. However my agreeing just doesn't seem to be good enough as we can all see by this debate dragging on its carcass.

Are you doing this to troll or are you just being an ignoramus? I have repeated myself to the point of ad nauseum that I didn't "choose" my sexual-attractions.

Sexual-attraction being a choice is your baby:

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
I DID choose to be attracted to girls/women growing up. Therefore I see no reason why another person can not choose to be attracted to the same sex. It's called free-will.

When asked how you made that choice:

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
If you truly want an answer then it would be exactly as you stated, "I don't know why I'm sexually attracted to women, it just is for as long as I can remember." Unquote.

Which brings us back to:

Originally posted by Robtard
If you're saying "you don't know", then how can you say you made the choice?

Originally posted by Robtard
At no point in my life did I have a neutral(for lack of a better word) sexual attraction when my sexuality manifested and I weighed male to female sexual attraction and picked females, to my recollection. As I said before, I don't think sexual-attraction is a "choice", you do.

Please explain when you made the choice to be sexually attracted to women? Which method(s) did you use in ruling that women and not men were sexually attracted to you? Since you're saying sexual-attraction was a "choice" for you. [/B]

"I weighed male to female attraction & PICKED FEMALES, to my recollection."

So you weighed & picked females...
Dare I say doesn't that imply a choice you made?
By dictionary definition of "Pick";
*To decide with care or forethought.
*The act of selecting or (drumroll...) CHOOSING. As in CHOICE.

And yet you don't believe sexual attraction is a choice...it's something you picked.
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Originally posted by Esau Cairn
"I weighed male to female attraction & PICKED FEMALES, to my recollection."

So you weighed & picked females...
Dare I say doesn't that imply a choice you made?
By dictionary definition of "Pick";
*To decide with care or forethought.
*The act of selecting or (drumroll...) CHOOSING. As in CHOICE.

And yet you don't believe sexual attraction is a choice...it's something you picked.
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Very funny. You're editing the sentence and using a specific segment of my statement which takes what I actually said out of context, so I ask again?

Originally posted by Robtard
Are you doing this to troll or are you just being an ignoramus?

Yes I'm an ignoramus to how much of a fool I've been debating with...

You really don't like when I use your own words against you, do you?

I didn't edit, I simply quoted part of your debate. Your entire statement has been quoted by me above.

Seriously, out of context?

I don't think it is in that case. Otherwise, no generation will continue exist in the earth

Natural Instincts, No We are not born gay. However, if we are made Gay, it Doesnt matter, for the heart of whom you are is all that you shall leave in the echoes of this fleeting life.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Natural Instincts, No We are not born gay. However, if we are made Gay, it Doesnt matter, for the heart of whom you are is all that you shall leave in the echoes of this fleeting life.

all we are is dust in the wind, dude.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Yes I'm an ignoramus to how much of a fool I've been debating with...

You really don't like when I use your own words against you, do you?

I didn't edit, I simply quoted part of your debate. Your entire statement has been quoted by me above.

Seriously, out of context?

"Yes I'm an ignoramus"

Well that settles it then, no reason to go further. Condolences on your condition.

(See, I can be a clown-shoe and use the same clowny tactics. *honk* *honk*)

If its true, then why arent the gay babies eliminated/dealt with at birth?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
If its true, then why arent the gay babies eliminated/dealt with at birth?

That would not get rid of homosexuality: some people are homosexual by choice and some by environmental factors. Just eliminating one of the areas doesn't end it all.

But why would you want to end homosexuality? If it is for religious reasons, cursing (foul language) is a sin, as well. So execute all the people who curse.

But if everyone who is going to be born gay is killed no one will grow up knowing what being gay is, so they won't choose to be gay either. It's perfect.

Originally posted by dadudemon
That would not get rid of homosexuality: some people are homosexual by choice and some by environmental factors. Just eliminating one of the areas doesn't end it all.

Not sure if serious...


But why would you want to end homosexuality? If it is for religious reasons, cursing (foul language) is a sin, as well. So execute all the people who curse.

Bonus question: Is it because of fashion? (Whoever is in charge of vests must be destroyed.)

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
But if everyone who is going to be born gay is killed no one will grow up knowing what being gay is, so they won't choose to be gay either. It's perfect.

Impossible. Being gay isn't just about genetics. It is bound to come back up, if not due to environment, alone. Someone with ODD in a strong arranged marriage culture could do the gay thing, as well...just to spite their parents.

There are many ways for homosexuality to arise in humanity if all genetic origins of it are erased.

I always had the suspicion Mr. Master was a raging homophobe...

...oh wait, it's just Big-C stealing sigs again.

Are you gay?? 😱 u said we..lol

Originally posted by rudester
Are you gay?? 😱 u said we..lol

Do you think we know which post you looked at when replying?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Do you think we know which post you looked at when replying?

He is clearly referring to Esau Cairn.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I always had the suspicion Mr. Master was a raging homophobe...

...oh wait, it's just Big-C stealing sigs again.

Raging? Its natural to be homophobe.

I say allow homo in the military and place them in the front lines . No one cares if they die. Thats the only good use i can come up for them.

I say allow homo in the military and place them in the front lines . No one cares if they die. Thats the only good use i can come up for them.

😆 wow that's so messed up