Originally posted by vince_slice
What are your thoughts on Thanos mind-controlling Hulk like a puppet in Avengers Assemble?
That was an insane ft but you can't compare it to the time Emma failed to mind control WWH because the more pissed Hulk is, the harder it is to control him and the Hulk that Emma fought was PISSED beyond comprehension whereas Thanos went against a calm Hul. It's still impressive but its not comparable at all.
Originally posted by ODG
Overall, it's comparable if Emma has Cerebra. Thanos has not displayed finesse with it or other esoteric telepathic abilities, but his telepathic defenses are monstrous and should outstrip Emma's. As for telepathic offense, I'm not so sure.In other words, if Emma w/ Cerebra tried to assault Thanos, she'd probably be blocked and/or maybe mindphucked. Moondragon (w/o Mind Gem) suffered that fate. But vice-versa, if Thanos tried to assault Emma w/ Cerebra offensively, I'm not so sure what would happen.
Same thing with FP Kuurth.
We know what happened to Emma w/ Cerebra when she tried to assault FP Kuurth. She was definitively and completely mindphucked for an entire issue thereafter. But I don't expect FP Kuurth to walk around mindphucking people with offensive telepathy or mind-linking with an entire world's population.
I think this is pretty much spot on and I agree. The only saving grace for Thanos might be that is some respects he is used to "encountering" evil more so than emma. Emma seemed to not be able to take all the evil images she was seeing and didn't have the fortitude and will power to break through that. Thanos certainly has more will power and wouldn't be put off by dark images. But as you say, even then, he might not be able to do a thing to him with his TP.
Originally posted by carver9A depowered Dr Strange got inside WWH head with ease, it was only due to some very bad pis Hulk forced him out.
That was an insane ft but you can't compare it to the time Emma failed to mind control WWH because the more pissed Hulk is, the harder it is to control him and the Hulk that Emma fought was PISSED beyond comprehension whereas Thanos went against a calm Hul. It's still impressive but its not comparable at all.
Originally posted by h1a8hey man, how is the hammer unstoppable? Nul can't even lift majolnir yet smashed serpent's hammer. This hammer is fake, a wielder of it got one shotted to death by Thor. You are overrating both fP kurrth and the hammer.
How? Thanos won't be able to harm Kuurth at all.
Also what's stopping Kuurth from smashing Thanos face in with the unstoppable hammer?
Originally posted by abhilegendThey are on my pc not my laptop.
So he was actually depowered. Got any scans buddy?
It was how he was slowly becoming less powerful once Bendis got hold of him, the reason was due to his use of dark arts, this was later brought up again after he used Zoms power during WWH
Originally posted by Nihilist
They are on my pc not my laptop.It was how he was slowly becoming less powerful once Bendis got hold of him, the reason was due to his use of dark arts, this was later brought up again after he used Zoms power during WWH
hey man, how is the hammer unstoppable? Nul can't even lift majolnir yet smashed serpent's hammer. This hammer is fake, a wielder of it got one shotted to death by Thor. You are overrating both fP kurrth and the hammer.
Thanos wins. He can probably beat kurrth's master, no way is he going to lose to his slave.
his hammer was stated to be unstoppable as well by Magneto. Juggernaut/Kuurth's unstoppable enchantment extends to the hammer as well ie if he throws/swings it nothing can stop it including Thanos' skull
Originally posted by vince_sliceI don't have a good grasp of the level that this Mindless Hulk is operating currently. He has impressive strength feats, but he got put down by Doom. This is, so far, the only time his telepathic resistance has been tested.
What are your thoughts on Thanos mind-controlling Hulk like a puppet in Avengers Assemble?
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiEmma isn't exactly a delicate flower, but this is a fair point. But keep in mind that Satanna, an expert exorcist with the psychic will of all the Thunderbolts was similarly helpless.
I think this is pretty much spot on and I agree. The only saving grace for Thanos might be that is some respects he is used to "encountering" evil more so than emma. Emma seemed to not be able to take all the evil images she was seeing and didn't have the fortitude and will power to break through that. Thanos certainly has more will power and wouldn't be put off by dark images. But as you say, even then, he might not be able to do a thing to him with his TP.
Originally posted by NihilistA prepped Dr. Strange was driven out the first time by WWH's rage. It was only when General Ross was ripping him apart with adamantium shrapnel, thus creating an "opening," that Dr. Strange got in.
A depowered Dr Strange got inside WWH head with ease, it was only due to some very bad pis Hulk forced him out.
Originally posted by DiesldudeHulk was worthy of his hammer. Each of the Worthy was specifically worthy of each of their hammers. Nobody else but them could pick them up.
hey man, how is the hammer unstoppable? Nul can't even lift majolnir yet smashed serpent's hammer. This hammer is fake, a wielder of it got one shotted to death by Thor. You are overrating both fP kurrth and the hammer.
Thanos wins. He can probably beat kurrth's master, no way is he going to lose to his slave.
Originally posted by ODGThe opening was when Rick was talking to him not when the general/army was unloading on him. When Hulk forced Strange out it wasnt due to rage at all, it was because he jumped into lake. The instance youre talking about when Strange was in astral form trying to calm Hulk down
A prepped Dr. Strange was driven out the first time by WWH's rage. It was only when General Ross was ripping him apart with adamantium shrapnel, thus creating an "opening," that Dr. Strange got in.
Originally posted by NihilistYou need to reread World War Hulk. WWH forced Dr. Strange out with his rage. Jumping in a lake for a quick dip and making his skin moist was not the reason Dr. Strange was forced out. And Dr. Strange repeated the enchantment successfully when General Ross provided him an opening due to WWH's weakened physical condition.
The opening was when Rick was talking to him not when the general/army was unloading on him. When Hulk forced Strange out it wasnt due to rage at all, it was because he jumped into lake. The instance youre talking about when Strange was in astral form trying to calm Hulk down
Originally posted by DiesldudeThe hammer is unstoppable because of Cyttorak's enchantment (has nothing to do with the Serpent).
hey man, how is the hammer unstoppable? Nul can't even lift majolnir yet smashed serpent's hammer. This hammer is fake, a wielder of it got one shotted to death by Thor. You are overrating both fP kurrth and the hammer.
Thanos wins. He can probably beat kurrth's master, no way is he going to lose to his slave.
Originally posted by ODG
^ Thanos doesn't have the ability to force absolute zero on the helmet. Thanos doesn't have Magneto's electromagnetic manipulation to warp it. Thanos doesn't have Hope's super-all-in-one mutant blitz abilities to tear it off.Even if he had the required power to wreck it with pure power, FP Kuurth no sold a Cerebra-amped tp attack. And then he just reformed his helmet immediately after no selling it.
I can see FP Kuurth withstanding a godblast (Juggernaut did after all). I simply don't see Thanos withstanding a godblast as well. And that measure of durability is going to present significant problems for Thanos.
you know this is just funny, tell me something did kuurth fight anyone on thanos level? how do you know thanos cant do anything to him? kuurth fought metas and thats your meassurement? as i said before but it seem like you dont read what people write so i will say it again, colossus was able to crack his helmet with a punch, now compare colossus punch and thanos using an amped punch.... see the picture already?
i will ask you again who did full power kuurth beat or wasnt harmed by to make you believe thanos cant hurt him?
juggernaut whitstood a very weak godblast from a very weak thor, kuurth doesnt have the full power of the juggernaut because he is a merge of depowered juggernaut and the serpent therefor its serpent + depowered juggernaut, do you see kuurth whitstanding the blast that took out galactus? if you believe kuurth will whitstand a full power godblast from thor that took down galactus then allow me to laugh at you.
Originally posted by red sabre
you know this is just funny, tell me something did kuurth fight anyone on thanos level? how do you know thanos cant do anything to him? kuurth fought metas and thats your meassurement? as i said before but it seem like you dont read what people write so i will say it again, colossus was able to crack his helmet with a punch, now compare colossus punch and thanos using an amped punch.... see the picture already?i will ask you again who did full power kuurth beat or wasnt harmed by to make you believe thanos cant hurt him?
juggernaut whitstood a very weak godblast from a very weak thor, kuurth doesnt have the full power of the juggernaut because he is a merge of depowered juggernaut and the serpent therefor its serpent + depowered juggernaut, do you see kuurth whitstanding the blast that took out galactus? if you believe kuurth will whitstand a full power godblast from thor that took down galactus then allow me to laugh at you.
Why was it a very weak Godblast? Why couldn't it just have been a weaker Godblast? Do you understand writer's intentions? Can Thanos do better than a Godblast?
Lastly, you are trolling when you argue that Kuurth didn't have both the full power of Juggs and the Serpent. Juggs was fully powered near the end of WWH and stayed fully powered till he merged with the Serpent. It was shown clearly in comics. Both powers were stacked. Hell, the entire forum agrees to that.
Of course Kuurth can withstand a godblast since Juggs did it and Kuurth is Juggs + Serpent. Use common sense man.