The Phantom vs Batman

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The Phantom vs Batman

The Phantom vs The Batman

Phantom biography

The Phantom or; The Ghost Who Walks, The Man Who Cannot Die and Guardian of the Eastern Dark as are his other titles is a guardian of the bengali jungles. There is a myth featuring The Ghost Who Walks, a powerful and indestructible guardian of the innocent and fighter of all types of injustice. Because he seems to have existed for generations, many believe him to be immortal. In reality, the Phantom is a legacy hero, descended from 20 previous generations of crimefighters who all adopt the same persona. When a new Phantom takes the task from his dying father, he swears the Oath of the Skull: "I swear to devote my life to the destruction of piracy, greed, cruelty, and injustice, in all their forms, and my sons and their sons shall follow me".

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Batman Biography

As a child, billionaire Bruce Wayne watched helplessly as his parents Thomas and Martha were shot and killed by a petty mugger named Joe Chill. Upon witnessing their deaths, the young Wayne took an oath of vengeance against crime so that no one else would have to suffer the tragedy that he had. Wayne spent years venturing the world, learning many forms of combat and training himself to physical and intellectual perfection. Upon his return to Gotham, Wayne delved into crime-fighting, with disastrous results. As the injured young man sat alone in his study dwelling upon his dilemma and the fact that criminals are a "cowardly, superstitious lot", he figured that the best way to get to them was through sheer terror. At that moment, as if a sign from God, a huge bat flew in through his study window. This bat provided Bruce with the inspiration he had been searching for. He donned a costume complete with a long, black cape and a cowl with huge, pointed ears and became the creature the criminals of Gotham would now know and fear: The Dark Knight... Batman.

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The battle takes place in a rocky landscape. Batman has his suit and his many gadgets, the phantom has his guns and a 18th century sword. There is no preparation and the characters have no morals at all, they fight to kill. The Phantom has his jungle reflexes and weapons expertise behind him. While Batman has a bullet proof west and many tools at his disposal. Who will win this battle; Tarzan with guns and the intellect of a samurai warrior or the ninja with the most durable suit in the world.

It took some time finding those images now DEBATE!

The Ghost is awesome, but I don't see him gaining the upper hand against The Goddamn Batman.

billy zane wins. the phantom loses.

Since there is no prep I think Phantom stomps, he is just overall a better fighter. Batman has his suit that could protect him from some of the phantom's bullets. But that is about it, if the phantom gets close to Batman the Batman is dead. Also the Phantom has more impressive combat feats. Plus Batman has been exeggerrated to the point of inacurracy. He is just a high tech ninja, yet he is often compared to Super man and others in terms of capability to kick ass. He is just human after all..

Which character debuted first in media? Just wondering.

Anyone have any h2h feats for Phantom?

Originally posted by Mumrik
Since there is no prep I think Phantom stomps, he is just overall a better fighter. Batman has his suit that could protect him from some of the phantom's bullets. But that is about it, if the phantom gets close to Batman the Batman is dead. Also the Phantom has more impressive combat feats. Plus Batman has been exeggerrated to the point of inacurracy. He is just a high tech ninja, yet he is often compared to Super man and others in terms of capability to kick ass. He is just human after all..

Batman is one of the top martial artist in his universe. He hang and he's respected by Superman and he's deemed as one of the most dangerous member of the JLA, who is consisted by said Superman, Martian Manhunter and a plethora of bad asses (Aquaman non included). If Phanton is a better overall fighter, which can be argued a lot (IMO, Batman crush him), Batman still has all his toys, and his super brain.

At the end of the day, Batman kick his butt, one way or another.

(Aquaman non included).

😆

Which character debuted first in media? Just wondering.

I think that would be the phantom; 1936.
Anyone have any h2h feats for Phantom?

There are over 12000+ comic books featuring the phantom only. Sadly there aren't too many fans of him that uses the web since most of these comics are from 1960-2000. I got a few from my childhood, let's see what I can recall.

-Wrestling and beating a orangutang.
-Won over red beard, basically a infamous viking pirate. (Could crush a coconut with his hand)
-Wrestled and won over lions and tigers in fistfights.

Well there are a lot more, but he is basically a powerhouse. Batman wouldn't have a chance against a lion in hand to hand battle. If you want proof I could dig out and scan some impressive feats in.

I found this online, when he defeated a necromancer and his demons...

http://www.karileppanencomics.fi/devilforrest%202.jpg
http://www.karileppanencomics.fi/english-devilforrest%201.jpg

Ah. Seems like he is almost Conan of the jungle, lol. Him defeating necromancers and demons makes me think of some of the other worldly things Conan has defeated.

Seems like this would be quite a matchup against Bruce...

Originally posted by Mumrik
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their is nothing to debate.. Batman takes care of business..

I wouldn't be putting the bat against the phantom if the outcome couldn't be debated. I can tell you're a batman fanboy, but you know believing something to be true doesn't mean it is. Prove he is better or accept that he is not.

Originally posted by Mumrik
Batman wouldn't have a chance against a lion in hand to hand battle.

This is a joke, right? He's fought Solomon Grundy and won, iirc. And even ignoring that feat (because, let's be honest, it's a bit ridiculous) he's got hundreds of wins over enemies that are at least Lion+

Phantom's cool. One of the originals. But I feel like proving any version of him wins is an uphill battle.

Originally posted by Digi
This is a joke, right? He's fought Solomon Grundy and won, iirc. And even ignoring that feat (because, let's be honest, it's a bit ridiculous) he's got hundreds of wins over enemies that are at least Lion+

Phantom's cool. One of the originals. But I feel like proving any version of him wins is an uphill battle.

Batman also schooled several gorillas h2h.

Gorilla are powerful but not very smart and Batman is somewhere between athlete and peak human and is a master of fight techniques but imo Gorillas are stronger

Originally posted by Digi
This is a joke, right? He's fought Solomon Grundy and won, iirc. And even ignoring that feat (because, let's be honest, it's a bit ridiculous) he's got hundreds of wins over enemies that are at least Lion+

Phantom's cool. One of the originals. But I feel like proving any version of him wins is an uphill battle.

There is no NORMAL human on earth that could take on a lion without being stomped. Like take for example one of Batman's opponents Bane. he wouldn's survive a lion. Especially not a barbary lion...which I think was what the phantom defeated.

Also here I found a durability feat, he survived a hanging...was buried alive and managed to escape. Nothing Bruce Vayne would be able to do, his neck would have snapped.

Also here is him fighting a tiger...

Also I remember although cannot find the comic online, that the phantom pulled the sword of excalibur out of the stone and actually guided Arthur to it. Can't recall exactly what happened...another strenght feat Batman could only hope of accomplishing. Also here is Redbeard, the viking pirate. 2.5 meters tall with incredible strenght. Batman fought and won over him...I remember it was a close call though.

Batman couldn't wrestle a barbary lion to the ground, his neck would snap like that and he would also have problem with a tiger. And yes he would get his ass kicked by almost anyone from the past centuries...inclduing red beard. People were naturally stronger back then. Playboy rich kid Bruce Vayne is nothing compared to viking pirates of the past.

Phantom stomps Batman...well...if he can get to him. But that shouldn't be a problem, he has better stealth than Batman having grown up in the jungle.

Batman has tangled with wild animals plenty of times.

Pretty sure he wrestled down some wild buffalo before.

And that's 1,200-2000 lbs of animal. A lot bigger and stronger than any single big cat.

Pretty sure he wrestled down some wild buffalo before. And that's 1,200-2000 lbs of animal. A lot bigger and stronger than any single big cat.

Depends on what kind of wild buffalo. If it's more or less cattle, then you know it's possible to grab their neck in such a way that they are forced to lay down. If it's a bison...well dream on. He must have sedated it or something. It's just not possible for any human to wrestle down a bison. Not even Captain America would be able to do that.

The sole reason phantom was able to defeat a lion and tigers and such in h2h combat is because of the fact that he has grown up in the jungle since birth and actually been trained for the day he will become the phantom. Bruce wayne went for ninja training for how many years? 2-3? The phantom we are talking about is probably in his prime around 25-30 years old. That is 30 years of wild fighting training in the jungle. Not to mention the expert weapons training.

Thing with Batman is that he needs prepartaion or a plan before heading into battle. He isn't a warrior more of a ninja, he needs to rely on stealth and the cover of darkness to really take on anyone. Sure the cliffs might benefit him since they are dark and there are a lot of places to hide. The only way Batman could get the upper hand is if he somehow uses his many tools like smoke bombs and tear gas and then ambushes the phantom.

Maybe uses his batarang as a knife in close combat. Still...the phantom's strenght alone would probably overwhelm Batman. Question is how the phantom would kill him, his protective suit actually renders the sword useless. He could maybe shoot him in the mouth, but the gun would be hard to use among the cliffs. If he gets him in close combat I guess he could break the Batman's spine...but maybe his outfit will protect him...

I think Batmans area under the jaw throat area isn't as heavy armored. Maybe the phantom could strange him to death. I give Batman maximum 3 min then he is dead with maybe minor cuts on the phantom.

Give Batman some credit, Mumrik.

Originally posted by Mumrik
Depends on what kind of wild buffalo. If it's more or less cattle, then you know it's possible to grab their neck in such a way that they are forced to lay down. If it's a bison...well dream on. He must have sedated it or something. It's just not possible for any human to wrestle down a bison. Not even Captain America would be able to do that.

The sole reason phantom was able to defeat a lion and tigers and such in h2h combat is because of the fact that he has grown up in the jungle since birth and actually been trained for the day he will become the phantom. Bruce wayne went for ninja training for how many years? 2-3? The phantom we are talking about is probably in his prime around 25-30 years old. That is 30 years of wild fighting training in the jungle. Not to mention the expert weapons training.

Thing with Batman is that he needs prepartaion or a plan before heading into battle. He isn't a warrior more of a ninja, he needs to rely on stealth and the cover of darkness to really take on anyone. Sure the cliffs might benefit him since they are dark and there are a lot of places to hide. The only way Batman could get the upper hand is if he somehow uses his many tools like smoke bombs and tear gas and then ambushes the phantom.

Maybe uses his batarang as a knife in close combat. Still...the phantom's strenght alone would probably overwhelm Batman. Question is how the phantom would kill him, his protective suit actually renders the sword useless. He could maybe shoot him in the mouth, but the gun would be hard to use among the cliffs. If he gets him in close combat I guess he could break the Batman's spine...but maybe his outfit will protect him...

I think Batmans area under the jaw throat area isn't as heavy armored. Maybe the phantom could strange him to death. I give Batman maximum 3 min then he is dead with maybe minor cuts on the phantom.

You gave Batman his tools, and this is another major reason why he wins. How the Phantom would react to a knock-out gas?

And you say that the Phantom can beat a lion with his bare hands?
Big whoop. Batman beat multiple dudes with GUNS. Which is far more hardcore than a couple of lions.