The Phantom vs Batman

Originally posted by Mumrik
LMAO, are you serious...I have pointed you to a lot of feats that are far more impressive than anything Batman has done. Also the jungle sayings...

-When the Phantom moves the lightning's still
-Phantom sneaks quietly than jungle cat
-There are nights when the Phantom leaves the jungle and walk the city streets as a common man
-You will never find the Phantom - he finds you
-Phantom voice ice blood
-Phantom is hard on the hard
-Aim never to Phantom
-Phantom has a thousand eyes and a thousand ears
-Phantom has ten tiger strength
-Anyone who sees the phantom face die a horrible death
-When the answer to ask Phantom
-Waking in the dark and watch the Phantom - a horror of evil men
-Phantom rests only when peace prevails in the world

Sorry for the crappy google translation. This comic book is just so dead outside of america you know. Note the strength of 10 tigers, nothing the batman can handle.

You got jokes, son? These "feats" you've pointed out are better than anything Batman's ever done?

Well, it's obvious you have no earthly idea what Batman has done, then. And your hyperbole statements?

Batman's got hundreds of them.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
You got jokes, son? These "feats" you've pointed out are better than anything Batman's ever done?

Well, it's obvious you have no earthly idea what Batman has done, then. And your hyperbole statements?

Batman's got hundreds of them.

-There are nights when the Phantom leaves the jungle and walk the city streets as a common man

-You will never find the Phantom - he finds you

-Aim never to Phantom

Originally posted by Mumrik
LMAO, are you serious...I have pointed you to a lot of feats that are far more impressive than anything Batman has done. Also the jungle sayings...

-When the Phantom moves the lightning's still
-Phantom sneaks quietly than jungle cat
-There are nights when the Phantom leaves the jungle and walk the city streets as a common man
-You will never find the Phantom - he finds you
-Phantom voice ice blood
-Phantom is hard on the hard
-Aim never to Phantom
-Phantom has a thousand eyes and a thousand ears
-Phantom has ten tiger strength
-Anyone who sees the phantom face die a horrible death
-When the answer to ask Phantom
-Waking in the dark and watch the Phantom - a horror of evil men
-Phantom rests only when peace prevails in the world

Sorry for the crappy google translation. This comic book is just so dead outside of america you know. Note the strength of 10 tigers, nothing the batman can handle.

chuck norris got far more sayings he stomps.

now seriously this guy is trolling.

Actually that would be more like, The phantom is harsh towards the harsh. as for:

Why would the fact that he is 'ARIAN' matter? This smells suspiciously like racism....

So...film depiction of Batman, but comic book depiction of Phantom? Why don't you make them equal, and use the film adaptation of the Phantom? Is it because he sucked?

Originally posted by Mumrik
[B]Actually that would be more like, The phantom is harsh towards the harsh. as for:
Well the vikings were originally really tall and incredibly physically strong. I'm just saying that he is not some skinny Mowgli guy. Ever heard of controlled breeding? It just so happens to be the case that he has since the 16th century mated with only perfect women. Physically and intellectually sophisticated women. Which has lead to him having a natural physically superior built to normal men.

And you equate perfection with Aryans? Dangerous ground there, mate.

Actually the movie is quite true to the phantom comics, except that Billy Zane doesn't live up physically to the phantom. So yeah...atually one would be able to say that this thread is more of movie vs movie. Yeah and I forgot the phantom has captured a giant too...

Lol. So, back to my point, you use the movie depiction of Batman (being savaged by dogs) but ignore the Phantom's movie depiction, because...Zane didn't portray the ridiculousness of the comic? And then in the very same breath, show a comic book feat?

Riiiiiight.

😐

Lol. So, back to my point, you use the movie depiction of Batman (being savaged by dogs) but ignore the Phantom's movie depiction, because...Zane didn't portray the ridiculousness of the comic? And then in the very same breath, show a comic book feat?

Deleted scenes Many scenes developing the romance between the Phantom/Kit Walker and Diana Palmer were cut in order to make the film more fast paced. An action scene featuring the Phantom wrestling a lion and one with him fighting a snake were also cut. A scene with the Phantom and his horse Hero rearing in the sunset was cut out of the film, but shown at the end of the 1996 A&E documentary The Phantom: Comic Strip Crusader.

Originally posted by Mumrik
Actually I happen to know that a scene was cut from the phantom movie...a scene in which billy zane is fighting a lion and winning. See:
So basically that wouldn't matter...the phantom comic and movie phantom are equal...so yeah movie batman against movie phantom...actually movie/comic phantom since there is no difference between them...

So he wrestled a lion and a snake, did he win?

IF he did, can you prove it?

And after you've proved it, there's still the fact that comic book Batman>film Batman, and there is also the fact that this should then be moved to the comic film thread, not the comic BOOK thread.

Its not our fault you didn't put the versus match in the right thread. You should have put this match in the comic film thread, not here.

So he wrestled a lion and a snake, did he win? IF he did, can you prove it?

I'm trying to argue realistically, and batman in the dark knight is far more realistic than anything out of the PIS comics. So...batman had problem with Joker's dogs...phantom wrestled a big snake and a lion to the ground....

He is simple a superior fighter, here are some clips from the movie. Although they don't quite live up to the REAL physical strength agility and speed of the phantom but it's close enough.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au3Frf2ID28&feature=plcp

In other words, you're conceding that comic-verse Batman would mop the floor up with comic/movie-verse Phantom?

You also can't write off every feat you don't like or disagree with as PIS, which seems to be the case here and in other threads.

PIS to my knowledge means plot induced stupidity as in...the plot feat is just unrealistic. You're saying Batman can kick trees down and that he can break the kneck of a lion with one hand etc...well that is unrealistic which to my knowledge means it's PIS. It's realistic for someone like super man to do it, but Batman has no super powers....so no:

Any Phantom>Batman

In close hand to hand combat that is...it has been proven.

Originally posted by Mumrik
[B]Duh of course he won, you seriously think he would half way through the movie wrestle a lion and die...he got the snake and the lion. Thing is...there is no difference between the movie phantom and comic book phantom.

But there is a difference between movie Batman and comic Batman.

I'm trying to argue realistically, and batman in the dark knight is far more realistic than anything out of the PIS comics. So...batman had problem with Joker's dogs...phantom wrestled a big snake and a lion to the ground....

Ok, so finally, you admit that its movie Batman (Bale) vs movie Phantom? Or do you want to use Clooney Batman? Or Keaton Batman? Which one?

He is simple a superior fighter, here are some clips from the movie. Although they don't quite live up to the REAL physical strength agility and speed of the phantom but it's close enough.

Wait, I thought you said:

Thing is...there is no difference between the movie phantom and comic book phantom.

Which is it?

Wait, I thought you said: quote: Thing is...there is no difference between the movie phantom and comic book phantom. Which is it?

Comic/movie phantom
vs
Bale's batman

It's the most realistic scenario, much of what has been done in the batman comics is unrealistic and therefore PIS...only way this isn't how it's suppose to go is if PIS means something other than not realistic...

We want to come to a REALISTIC truth...not something that is unrealistic and false right?

So, yes, you don't agree with the feat so it becomes PIS in your eyes?

Face it, in the world of comic books, or even most forms of fiction really, "normal" humans do stuff that you can't do in reality, especially "normal" humans trained to the level of "peak perfection". Furthermore, your obvious double standard is extremely telling.

You make a thread in which you obviously beleive Phantom "stomps" Batman, and then turn around and disallow Batman's feats as being "PIS" and "unrealistic" for humans and attempt to pigeon hole Batman into being "movie" Batman because that's acceptable to you (namely because he got mauled by dogs, and big game cats > dogs).

You then cite Phantom as being able to wrestle and beat up these same animals...which is clearly beyond the realm of "normal" humans.

It's so crystal clear here that you desperately want to prove Phantom > Batman, but you can't, so you basically ignore what you don't like and try to change the scenario so that it's movie Batman (which is more "realistic"😉 versus Phantom (who can use any of his feats from any medium, apparently).

Hell, you do realize that the typical action movie hero shits on your conceived notions of "realistic"? Watch Die Hard, Rambo, Lethal Weapon, etc, and tell me real people can do that shit.

Realistically?

Movie Bale hides in the Tumbler, and fires rockets at the sword and pistol wielding Phantom.

Originally posted by Mumrik
Duh of course he won, you seriously think he would half way through the movie wrestle a lion and die...he got the snake and the lion. Thing is...there is no difference between the movie phantom and comic book phantom.

I'm trying to argue realistically, and batman in the dark knight is far more realistic than anything out of the PIS comics. So...batman had problem with Joker's dogs...phantom wrestled a big snake and a lion to the ground....

He is simple a superior fighter, here are some clips from the movie. Although they don't quite live up to the REAL physical strength agility and speed of the phantom but it's close enough.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au3Frf2ID28&feature=plcp

how do you know he was suppose to win? maybe he was supposed to get injured and hurt badly so that his girlfriend could save him to make it more romantic? can you prove he was suppose to win in that fight?

how can you argue realisticly a character that isnt realistic? how can you aply realism to comics? how can you say someone can shoot lasers out of their eyes but then again look at you normally and choose when to use this power source? or how can someone fly? or how can someone turn himself and all his organs into pure metal and live? how can someone get super human powers by getting bit by a spider? how can someone survive a gama explosion and absorb it making him turn into giant green mosnter? how can he grow into a giant green mosnter and not rip his pants?

wait wait first you said there is no difference between the movie version and the comics version and now you say the movie version doesnt portray him as physically strong as the comics?

Originally posted by Mumrik
But his feats as in defeating a lion, taking on 10+ pirates...well pretty accurate to the comics.

when did he take a lion in the movie? i didnt see no lion in the movie.

defeating 10 pirates is a feat? pirates have no fighting training what so ever, they are just guys woith rotten teeth, christian bale defeating a group of ninjas is >>>>> those pirates

Originally posted by red sabre
[B]when did he take a lion in the movie? i didnt see no lion in the movie.

It was cut because the directors felt it was unrealistic 😛

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It was cut because the directors felt it was unrealistic 😛

they felt he cant really survive a lion therefor they cut it.