The Phantom vs Batman

Grundy/Hulk strength?

Are you serious?

Oh look I found a bunch of covers of the phantom...let's see what gems we can find in here to prove your wrong...
http://www.schapter.org/wiki/Category:Fantomen_issues

Originally posted by Mumrik

That says the lion mystery, don't remmeber if it's the one I read.

Don't know exactly what that being is, but it looks like some mythological beast.

Here he has a sword, but still that is a lion.

Oh look at that, tied up broke loose then knocked out a tiger. Take that suit off and do the same mr playboy.

Here is him wrestling what looks like a tiger...

Also here...

Another big cat...

Also I stumpled upon this...look at that beast. That is at least grundy maybe hulk strength.
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRwyiYbXefklhrE8xrtQrMR7oqJ0Xv-EaY32nzQwAjI2RcVGR_U17PWSUd-pQ

why is he humping all those animals? this is weird seriously a guy in purple tights humping tigers and lions..... beastality is too weird for me sorry.

this is weird seriously a guy in purple tights humping tigers and lions...

Originally posted by Mumrik
See first post for realistic artistic rendition of the character. And yeah one needs to be quite strong to be raping lions and tigers, batman wouldn't be able to do it.

they let him, they were trained proffesional beastality stars.

but honestly taking a comic book cover as a feat is dumb, the cover itself isnt the storyline itself and is just a picture to present what will happen in that issue, covers cannot be feats.

but seriously after darksaint85 posted a quote of you admiting you dont read comics and only look for wikipedia bios on the web i am not going to waste my time with you further.

I don't read american comics no...I'm not from america you know. And that reminds me european comics are much much better than marvel and DC.

Originally posted by Mumrik
I don't read american comics no...I'm not from america you know. And that reminds me european comics are much much better than marvel and DC.

where are you from if its not too personal to ask?

Let's use your logic Mumrik. Phantom is a comic book and movie character. He possesses feats that would probably kill a normal man. Therefore, if we want a realistic outcome, we have to assume that all feats you've listed for Phantom are PIS. There's no way he could be the fierce jungle sex cat in real life.

So, now it's an in-shape guy in purple vs. an in-shape guy in black. We're no longer talking about Batman and Phantom, but their "realistic" counterparts.

Flip a coin, heads will be Batman, tails Phantom. Let me know how it goes. That's who wins.

Most. Retarded. Logic. Ever.

Even better, let's go full on internet rage-boner and meet up in real life. I'll dress as Batman and bring some sleeping gas grenades, and you can dress in purple and bring...I dunno, a tiger penis or something. We'll fight. It will be a realistic outcome. We'll post the results to end the debate forever.

Originally posted by Mumrik
I don't read american comics no...I'm not from america you know. And that reminds me european comics are much much better than marvel and DC.

This is hilarious. Please tell me you see the flaw.

"I don't drink orange juice ever, but cranberry juice is better than orange juice."

Seriously, are you trolling? Or do you just not understand what Batman is capable of, and think that making things up as you go along will fly with anyone else?

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There's no way he could be the fierce jungle sex cat in real life.

I'll dress as Batman and bring some sleeping gas grenades, and you can dress in purple and bring...I dunno, a tiger penis or something.

This is hilarious. Please tell me you see the flaw. "I don't drink orange juice ever, but cranberry juice is better than orange juice."

12 000 comic books about a single character, I wonder if any of the thousands of different super heroes from marvel could say the same. Imagine the history the phantom character has in comparison to let's say Captain america or wolverine for example.

Seriously, are you trolling? Or do you just not understand what Batman is capable of, and think that making things up as you go along will fly with anyone else?

Originally posted by Mumrik
Lmao no I'll just bring two guns and my black belt.

Uh-oh, it's on now. Way to reinforce the stereotype I was going for, it's appreciated.

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Originally posted by Mumrik
Lol, yeah well visually better and has better characters. I have actually seen the many characters that have been created within the DC and marvel universes and most of them are quite lame. The stories are quite bad too, bad guy...super guy comes shoots lasers users secret weapon etc etc. Many of the comics in europe including phantom actually got good stories and good characters.

Poor grammar aside, you're acting like this is the only type of comic Americans produce. it's not, by a long shot. Again, you simply aren't working with full knowledge of what you're talking about.

Originally posted by Mumrik
12 000 comic books about a single character, I wonder if any of the thousands of different super heroes from marvel could say the same. Imagine the history the phantom character has in comparison to let's say Captain america or wolverine for example.

This is also flawed logic. You're using appearances alone to suggest power levels. If a character has 5 appearances but destroys a planet, is he less powerful than a martial artist with 12,000?

Second, you yourself have said that Phantom isn't one guy, but like 20. So cut the 12,000 by 20 and you're at under 1,000 for each. Wolverine has had more appearances than that in the last decade, let alone his whole history.

So yes, plenty have this kind of history. More evidence that you don't have the requisite knowledge to debate this.

Originally posted by Mumrik
I'm not trolling however I do enjoy this...as for making things up no I'm not. I'm just trying to come to some kind of truth.

Ignoring a character's history and feats as "PIS" will not get you to the truth. There's a reason that literally everyone in this thread disagrees with you, and it's not because we're not aware of the Phantom's capabilities.

Originally posted by Mumrik
Batman had 3 years of training as a ninja, the phantom which is a highly trained physical guy from the jungles...not some playboy guy. He is a legend...omg the very idea of the phantom. He is like the male archetype of physical and heroic perfection. You obviously don't know who the phantom is...Hell I'd probably say Tarzan would knock batman out as well...

Lulz, irony.

You very much need to be well-versed on both characters before entering a debate. As it is, it's very clear you're not. This invalidates your opinion to everyone here. You'll have to do a better job of removing this bias or you won't be taken seriously.

You've also said things like a tiger being close to Grundy or Hulk in strength, suggesting that you've never read anything about them. Hulk recently destroyed a planet. Grundy has KO'd Superman.

Go do some research. We have a forum that will help:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=98
Come back in a month when you actually understand what comics are like. Or continue to look like an ill-informed jerk that ignores anything said against his opinion. Your choice.

Lol, you basically come in here saying you don't read American comics because the stories suck and Batman's feats are all PIS and then turn around and state he only has three years training as a ninja and have the gall to say "I'm not trolling"?

He was probably basing the 3 years thing on the movie, after all that seems to be the version he is most familiar with.

Anyway his argument is stupid, he might as well say the Phantom can beat Pre-Crisis Karate Kid, because Karate Kid is "just human" so all his feats are PIS.

Golden thread.