Superman vs WBH-To the Death

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Originally posted by iceman24567
Superman blitzes him

Huik did die in the dark dimension.. Carver is now crying...

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Huik did die in the dark dimension.. Carver is now crying...

Why am I crying when he didn't die? They showed Hulk fighting in the heart of the blast with no damage and then Hulk wished them back as soon as the blast was done. A dead man can't wish people back.

Stop hating.

Superman blitz pees on Hulk

It seemed to me like he did die.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Superman blitz pees on Hulk
Hulk thunderclaps the pee right back into Superman's eyes killing him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk thunderclaps the pee right back into Superman's eyes killing him.
Based on?!

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Based on?!
Common sense, logic, reason.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Common sense, logic, reason.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
I believe you saw the light. For this I commend you.

I dont think WBH died at all, A much weaker hulk no sold a planatoid 2x earths size, moving at a very high speed on a collision course with earth. He rammed into it and destroyed it with a punch. With no damage to himself
WBH>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Grey Hulk

Originally posted by carver9
Why am I crying when he didn't die? They showed Hulk fighting in the heart of the blast with no damage and then Hulk wished them back as soon as the blast was done. A dead man can't wish people back.

Stop hating.

You're still upset that Thanos mindraped The Hulk with utter ease.. a mere thought...

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
I dont think WBH died at all, A much weaker hulk no sold a planatoid 2x earths size, moving at a very high speed on a collision course with earth. He rammed into it and destroyed it with a punch. With no damage to himself
WBH>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Grey Hulk
Context is well beyond you.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Well the discrepancy you are referencingg has more to do with writer lapse/inconsistency than the dark dimension. For instance even while on earth, the mere footsteps of a holding back World Breaker were threatening the entire continent of North America (which is on earth) repeatedly and this was even one of the plot points surrounding the character as he was too dangerous to be on earth. Hence if the mutated giant hulk at the end was actually stronger then his repeated stomps should have caused at least as much damage or quite frankly much more. The problem here then isnt with the Dark dimension since the same discrepancy you talked about happens on earth as well

IMO a possible way to reconcile this is to simply not make the assumption that the huge mutated Hulk at the end of the series was stronger than WorldBreaker as he appeared before, seeing as even a holding back WBreaker on earth did outperform him featwise and how it was never mentioned that he was stronger anyway. Remember that WorldBReaker as he appeared on earth as well as WorldBreaker as he was in the dark dimension were as a result of Hulk letting lose with his anger and no longer holding it back in. Conversely the huge mutated Hulk appeared at a period where Hulk had already powered down from his WorldBreaker levels but then swallowed those gamma missiles fing fang foom was shooting at him. It is also not a normal function of Hulks powerset for him to baloon in size which suggests that some added mutation may have been going on. This added mutation from the gamma missiles was also seen in the cases of She hulk and Abomb as well so id say in your example the problem definitely does not lie with the Dark dimension

Regarding the Dark Dimension, Paks portrayal of it seemed to differ from some of its older portrayals seeing as it was portrayed pretty much like a run of the mill planetary body as opposed to an abstract dimensions with warped time, space, and perceptions. Using antiquated and differing previous portrayals of the Dark Dimension to cast doubt on the veracity of the World Breaking feat seems to be reaching and nitpicking quite a bit in my opinion (Heck even if we were to assume that the planet was like 5 times weaker or something the fact that it was done as a function of the residual shockwave would still make it far greater than regular planet busting)

Furthermore even then, the most impressive part about the feat in the Dark dimension was the destruction of hulks previous peers and even superiors as well as the army of mindless ones portrayed powerfully enough to take out Umar, via the residual shockwave of a single collision of punches. That part is the part of the feat that gives us a direct indication of the strength elevation that took place (exponential strength increase) and takes precedence ahead of the "space cheese".

mhmm. His footsteps were threatening the eastern seaboard, and not the entire continent. Eventually if he kept on doing his thing it would have, but at the time it wasn't. Which would give me even more reason to believe that the Dark Dimension had something to do with it. Since I think it'd be pretty laughable if anyone claimed that that non-holding back stronger than gamma bomb filled Hulk would be unable to accomplish what he did in the Dark Dimension at weaker levels.

You know thats impossible though. Hulk shaking the eastern seaboard isn't more impressive to me than the mutated Hulk beginning to endanger the planet. It can't be argued that he's not as strong as he was since he was being given more power. Power that affected She Hulk and A Bomb and made them substantially stronger. Capable of affecting Bruce and Betty with punches. Absolutely no reason for them to have not amped WBH beyond what he was.

I get what you're saying, but I disagree on him having powered down from WBH levels. He was still in his mind in the dark dimension where he could let loose all his power. I don't see why he would have powered down or anything that points to it tbh. The gamma energy that surrounded him wasn't flowing at all times either so thats hard to use as an indication of whether he was at WBH levels or not. But seeing as he no longer cared about the destruction around him I see no reason for him to not have been at WBH levels.

The mutation like i said before though, showed huge power ups for abomb and she hulk. Had it been just a size increase it'd be different, but they were able to hurt/affect Hulk with punches who no sold class 100's easily.

Pak could have had whatever intention he wanted, but unless there's something said about the Dark Dimension being changed, it should still hold true to the rules that made it up before. I see how'd you see it as nitpicking or reaching and I guess it could be called that, but despite me not being buddy buddy with the Hulk I'm not doing it to screw him over of his feat. But if his feat has context which looks to be the case, then it should be included when his feat is mentioned like with Superman's feat. He was going beyond physical damage and damaging reality itself but there was context to it so that it probably wouldn't happen under normal circumstances.

You're right that the most impressive part of it was the disintegration of past peers, but with the mindless ones I have my doubts. What really makes the feat is wendigo, bi-beast, and armaggedon being reduced to nothing by the shockwave. But the mindless ones in large part have been portrayed as standard punching bags to me. Professor Hulk was able to mess them up back in the day, Thor's broken them, among others.

You know whose summoned Mindless Ones don't suck?

Doom's. uhuh

Doom is to powerful to use in the versus forum though. He's basically God.

What do you mean "basically"? sneer

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
What do you mean "basically"? sneer

I mean he's just a little below the real God.

♫He's got the whole world in hands.♫

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
What do you mean "basically"? sneer

Doom is no Thanos.. even by his own admission big buddy.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Doom is no Thanos.. even by his own admission big buddy.

Yeah, I can admit Doom is no Thanos either.

Doom's on a whole other level of awesome.