Originally posted by carver9
Rephrase...can Superman nearly destroy the easter seaboard with a footstep?
Rephrase that.
Can Superman cause an earthquake on the eastern seaboard? yes.
His body smashing against earth cause tectonic plates to shift when he fought Kyber. So is not something He would not be able to accomplish. Actually IIRC his punches were felt on earth and he was weakened by poisonous nanites.
By just stepping? I will take that carefully as Galactus has walk on earth with out the same results. Unless you want to admit that Hulk is physically stronger than Galactus and I'm not ready to say Superman is physically stronger than Galactus, that will be retarded.
If u don't think superman can do that, you're either ignorant of the character or just plain low balling. He's lifted infinite weight several times. He's destroyed planets, pulled planets, fast balled black holes, etc. shaking one continent of one planet is nothing to him. Especially of he does hold back. The problem is he does. He's a hero, he doesn't take his anger out on innocent bystanders destroying millions of homes because he's a big baby,
Originally posted by carver9
Im not basing my judgment off of weight. Everything doeant alway revolve around lifting fts
Then you are basing it off of absolutely nothing.
I've addressed this AOE arguments before, and they are based upon absolutely nothing but plot convenience. And the pure physics of one comic world are not going to translate exactly over to the other once you start getting into the large scale of things--lets say above city block level.
Galactus is stronger than Hulk. By a lot. His footsteps on Earth caused no such Earthquakes. The Living Tribunal? Infinitely stronger than the Hulk. His footsteps did not cause tectonic plate movement when he fought Nebulos on the latter's planet.
It's all a matter of plot convenience.
Lobo swung down Pulsar Stargrave, which weighs on the same scale as stars. It did not destroy the planet despite the fact that it logically should have, all it did was destroy a city block or too. --Obviously, this does not mean that Hulk's foot steps > a sun falling on a planet, no, it just means its a different story, in a different universe, by a different writer, and thus the physics won't ever be one-to-one. 🙂
The idea that 'weight' isn't what your argument is based off of is a complete non-starter statement. Hulk shifting Tectonic plates is him shifting weight. He applied force, and things moved and shifted. Same thing with moving things overtly. You apply force. And it moves. It's exactly the same physics in motion.
Superman does not disrupt tectonic plates by walking--partly because it would be extremely stupid and inconvenient plotwise, and because there's explanations for his limited collateral damage anyway with the whole tactile telekinesis and miscellaneous abilities.
Since there is absolutely no weight that Hulk could lift that Superman couldn't lift, and we KNOW this by feats, and since force is what is causing the tectonic plates to shift and is the cause of the movement of any object period, and since force is simply mass x acceleration (technically Hulk's mass is only like 5 times greater while Superman is ability to accelerate is like over billions of times greater), there is no reason that in the same situation, that Superman couldn't make a continent shake with a foot step. Why doesn't he? Again, its a matter of plot convenience, and spread across different writers and universes.
Truthfully, I'm more impressed by containing a mini black hole with grip strength alone than one's footsteps causing a continent to shake. 🙂
Originally posted by Cogito
Same can be said of many heralds, btw.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
he doesn't take his anger out on innocent bystanders destroying millions of homes because he's a big baby,
Originally posted by CosmicCometTruthfully, I'm more impressed by containing a mini black hole with grip strength alone than one's footsteps causing a continent to shake. 🙂
This is so true.
Originally posted by biensalsa
Rephrase that.Can Superman cause an earthquake on the eastern seaboard? yes.
His body smashing against earth cause tectonic plates to shift when he fought Kyber. So is not something He would not be able to accomplish. Actually IIRC his punches were felt on earth and he was weakened by poisonous nanites.
By just stepping? I will take that carefully as Galactus has walk on earth with out the same results. Unless you want to admit that Hulk is physically stronger than Galactus and I'm not ready to say Superman is physically stronger than Galactus, that will be retarded.
You didnt answer one thing I asked for. By the way, can you show the scans of the punches being felt across the Earth.
Well, Pak did state that WBH can give Galactus a fight, so I wouldnt be surprised if that was his intentions.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Especially of he does hold back. The problem is he does. He's a hero, he doesn't take his anger out on innocent bystanders destroying millions of homes because he's a big baby,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLka0EbKSUA
Nope he just does is it when necessary. 😛
Originally posted by Damborgson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLka0EbKSUANope he just does is it when necessary. 😛
He is still holding back 😛
Originally posted by biensalsa
lol, this is the same Hulk who got pwned by Apocalypse.Fought Surfer, huge context win vs Gladiator.
Nah! He is not winning this one either.
Apocalypse grabbing him from behind isn't a pwned and that Hulk is different than the Hulk in your scans. As an FYI, that Hulk weaker than your average Hulk due to his lost/breaking up of Hulk and Banner. He was dying.
Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
I don't know if that was Hulk's strength doing that or if it was the Gamma radiation pouring from him weaking the earth.
Note the emphasis on the FTOOOOOM! sounds, clearly his steps are meant to be uber, there's also instances where WBH unleashed gamma energy whilst standing still and didn't cause as much destruction.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Skaar was able to amp to 100 trillion tons from the kinetic energy of 3 footsteps:
http://s980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/?action=view¤t=IncredibleHulk611007.jpgThe emphasis on the FTOOOOOM! sounds, clearly his steps are meant to be uber, there's also instances where WBH unleashed gamma energy whilst standing still and didn't cause as much destruction.
Sorrow...post the scan before this...he cracked the Eastern sea board and there wasnt a sign of green energy. I can't post it, computer acting up.
