TFU Vader and TFU Marek vs. Sidious

Started by The_Tempest6 pages

dadudemon
Okay. May bad. Let me explain more plainly.

Some, that have posted in this thread, make it seem like Darth Vader + Marek may not win.

That, to me, means they think Sidious is absurdly more powerful than all other characters.

Go back and read all of the posts. Some of them make it seem he's absurdly more powerful.[/b]

The distance between Sidious and Vader may appear to be somewhat close in terms of the percentages Lucas assigned, but it's still sufficient enough that with Vader's oft'-overstated but present vulnerability to electrical damage that Sidious was able to mortally injure him rather quickly. (Cf. this with the amount of electrical energy Vader withstood from Starkiller in The Force Unleashed II's final battle, suggesting there exists a comparative disparity between the damage Starkiller can unleash vis a vis Sidious.)

More importantly, Vader visibly deliberates between Marek and Sidious in the first game when Sidious "learns" of Marek's existence. Starkiller assures Vader "we can destroy him together!" and Vader clearly considers this option, but ultimately decides against it. While not necessarily the case, Vader clearly had reason to believe that Sidious could triumph over his and Marek's combined might.

No one is suggesting that Sidious is "absurdly more powerful" than any other character (though he actually is compared to most): he has at least four confirmed superiors and a few more who rival him. That said, we've seen examples recently in TCW where a solo fighter can take on two or more opponents whose individual powers rival his and, depending on tactics employed and environment exploited, can perform well. Sidious, who is more powerful than either Vader or Marek, could very well win.

In most situations, assuming these two play it smart, I'd say they have a clear advantage.

Originally posted by ares834
Have a link for this source...

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It can be found in The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia, under Starkiller's entry.

^ I think it's on his StarWars.com profile as well.

Originally posted by The_Tempest

he has at least four confirmed superiors

4? Luke, Yoda... Perhaps Mace... Who else?

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
^ I think it's on his StarWars.com profile as well.

It was, but not now I think.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
4? Luke, Yoda... Perhaps Mace... Who else?

None of those, actually. Abeloth & the Anchorites/Ones/Force-Wielders.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
None of those, actually. Abeloth & the Anchorites/Ones/Force-Wielders.

Just for the sake of it, I'm gonna point out that Luke might very well be superior to DE Sids.... 😎

Originally posted by axel_jovan
Just for the sake of it, I'm gonna point out that Luke might very well be superior to DE Sids.... 😎

Lol DE Sids will probably be eradicated from continuity in the next few years. Yay!

Originally posted by axel_jovan
Just for the sake of it, I'm gonna point out that Luke might very well be superior to DE Sids.... 😎

Abeloth is known to possess twelve times Luke's strength in the Force, which alone is greater than Sidious's. The Son's powers are noted by the databank to be "beyond the domain" of the Sith, which includes Sidious. We can infer then that the Daughter, who was the Son's equal, is similarly beyond Sidious. Likewise, so must the Father be, since his powers were greater than either of his children until the balance began to shift.

But yeah, Luke at this point is almost certainly beyond Sidious in a fight. But there's no real confirmation of that.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Abeloth is known to possess twelve times Luke's strength in the Force, which alone is greater than Sidious's. The Son's powers are noted by the databank to be "beyond the domain" of the Sith, which includes Sidious. We can infer then that the Daughter, who was the Son's equal, is similarly beyond Sidious. Likewise, so must the Father be, since his powers were greater than either of his children until the balance began to shift.

But yeah, Luke at this point is almost certainly beyond Sidious in a fight. But there's no real confirmation of that.


yep

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Lol DE Sids will probably be eradicated from continuity in the next few years. Yay!

Damn, you're right...but let us have our fun as long as we can lol