Sasuke (current) vs. Goku (at any stage)

thats what ive been trying to say dc isnt everything there are things sasuke can do that goku has no defense for

Originally posted by yungz22
thats what ive been trying to say dc isnt everything there are things sasuke can do that goku has no defense for

Yeah, I think people get too hung up on pure power. Goku is superior in terms of physical stats, but I agree with you. He just doesn't have any defense for Sasuke's more esoteric abilities. Goku also has weaknesses as well. I mean look at his poison resistances. They're practically non existent.

Originally posted by yungz22
dc isnt everything

Neither is "hax".

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Neither is "hax".

if you have zero defense for it it basically is thats why its called "hax".... because its an unfair advantage

example is kyoka suigetsu that is a hax ability because of its inability to avoid and dispel

Originally posted by yungz22
if you have zero defense for it it basically is thats why its called "hax".... because its an unfair advantage

example is kyoka suigetsu that is a hax ability because of its inability to avoid and dispel

Yeah. I know what the f**k it is. I'm just pointing out the problem in circulating shit like "DC isn't all" while endlessly cockriding "hax" in the same breath.

You're right, but you're also wrong. Neither of them are universal solutions to everything. An "objective thinker" should know this.

Originally posted by carver9
Wait a minute...are you saying Goku max at the end of DB is island level?

Anyhow, the other points?

Originally posted by BloodRain
Max? Probably not. He rivals Piccolo who has that island+ feat. He's likely higher given Z Piccolo's feat, but there are no fears to say where. Then again you can push it to country to continental and it would still be below continental to moon.

Anyhow, the other points?

Are you serious right now? Where does Sasuke lies power wise/destructive force? When you answer this, can you please explain why.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Yeah. I know what the f**k it is. I'm just pointing out the problem in circulating shit like "DC isn't all" while endlessly cockriding "hax" in the same breath.

You're right, but you're also wrong. Neither of them are universal solutions to everything. An "objective thinker" should know this.

how am i dickriding hax.....what are goku's defenses against it?

and mind some of you if goku blows up the earth hed be killing himself as well he cant survive in space.

Before I go on, is anyone else going to try and argue that Goku can punch out the ****ing moon? 😐

Originally posted by carver9
Are you serious right now? Where does Sasuke lies power wise/destructive force? When you answer this, can you please explain why.

You just brushed over every other point.. make even a sentence about the hax I mentioned and we'll go through the DC.

Originally posted by yungz22
how am i dickriding hax.....what are goku's defenses against it?

and mind some of you if goku blows up the earth hed be killing himself as well he cant survive in space.

Goku doesn't have a damn thing to do with what I said. I'm just telling you how hypocritical it is to hold a specific attribute on a pedestal after ruling out the other side for doing the same.

OK, and? If you're implying BoS Goku can planet bust, that means he can one-shot Sasuke, and he wouldn't have to destroy the planet to do it regardless. You might not want to argue that. Just Saiyan..

Originally posted by carver9
Are you serious right now? Where does Sasuke lies power wise/destructive force? When you answer this, can you please explain why.

It's hard to say, really. When his strongest attack collided with Naruto's, the explosion that transpired covered the sky for something like a 20 mile diameter, and caused separate storms that basically tore apart the earth below. (The explosion itself was miles up into the sky)

Besides that, Sasuke's destructive power is rather hard to gauge tbh. He can dish out casual lightning arrows are roughly three times as strong as a standard Biju Bomb, the blasts of which seem to have a roughly 400-ish meter diameter.

The intensity of said explosions isn't really specified, but I haven't really seen anything that isn't practically disintegrated by them sans the Juubi.

Regardless, Sasuke's strength mainly derives from hax/strategy/skill (in that order) as opposed to raw power.

Originally posted by BloodRain
You just brushed over every other point.. make even a sentence about the hax I mentioned and we'll go through the DC.

I already know about the hax, I'm asking you about his destructive force that you mentioned in your post. Please name his fts.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
It's hard to say, really. When his strongest attack collided with Naruto's, the explosion that transpired covered the sky for something like a 20 mile diameter, and caused separate storms that basically tore apart the earth below. (The explosion itself was miles up into the sky)

Besides that, Sasuke's destructive power is rather hard to gauge tbh. He can dish out casual lightning arrows are roughly three times as strong as a standard Biju Bomb, the blasts of which seem to have a roughly 400-ish meter diameter.

The intensity of said explosions isn't really specified, but I haven't really seen anything that isn't practically disintegrated by them sans the Juubi.

Regardless, Sasuke's strength mainly derives from hax/strategy/skill (in that order) as opposed to raw power.

Thanks. I'm asking Bloodrain this for a reason. I want to show him something. So BloodRain, is this the ft you are talking about and if it's more fts than this, please let me know.

Originally posted by carver9
I already know about the hax, I'm asking you about his destructive force that you mentioned in your post. Please name his fts.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Thats not the feat. Now, any response on the hax in and how it will/wont affect Goku? Or do we have nothing?

Goku would blitz and then blast. The fight would be over with.

Any argument for Goku being relativistic by DB? Otherwise I don't see how he's planning on blitzing Sasuke.

So your answer to whether Sasuke's hax would work is "doesnt matter, wont hit him"?

At least try to make it interesting.

Originally posted by BloodRain
So your answer to whether Sasuke's hax would work is "doesnt matter, wont hit him"?

At least try to make it interesting.

Which hax?

Goku, end of DB(part 1 to be specific), has no real answer to genjustu or Amateratsu & he's not fast enough to blast Sasuke before he teleports. Also Sasuke has energy absorption powers to handle any, if at all, smaller scale ki blasts. Also, while I personally doubt it would help much, Sasuke also has Chibaku Tensei on his side: he can make mini moon/meteors for those that don't know.