Originally posted by yungz22
well honestly i think kaguya could just send him to another dimension
She could definitely send him to another dimension.
However, Asura is simply too fast (he's faster than Light at his strongest) and too strong (he can destroy planetoids with simple punches) when compared to Kaguya, so Kaguya won't actually have a chance to send him to another dimension; not unless Asura stands there and waits for Kaguya to make a move, which isn't his style.
Basically, you need to revise your opinion on hax and destructive capacity to include physical stats, and to a lesser extent, character traits.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Would Infinite Tsukuyomi not work on Asura? If not then he'd win solidly. But I don't know where this question comes from or why its being asked.So is everyone in agreement now about this?
Yeah, it'd work on him, unless there's something I'm forgetting. Kaguya getting the chance to use Infinite Tsukuyomi is the real point of discussion, though it's not much of a discussion given the vast disparity in physical stats between the two.
It's being asked to prove a point; hax doesn't always make up for or trump a difference in destructive capacity. Physical stats and character traits play a major part.
Originally posted by Sacred 117
Thank you, DP. This is basically the point I'm trying to make. 👆
Hopefully he gets it. 👆
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixNo, its just if the scenes aren't massively inconsistent, whats the issue? Probably half of the feats we use are just as skewed, difference being lower results.
So it's alright to use inconsistent scalings just so you can put a number on things, even though said numbers can be borderline idiotic? Gotcha. 👆Hagoromo also had the Six Paths Yang stuff (Jesus-healing), Creation of All Things, Six Paths Senjutsu, Tailed Beast abilities, the other half of Kurama's chakra, etc. So not really. Hagoromo is more powerful. Peak Sasuke is more comparable to Peak Juubi Madara.
Which chakra attacks?
His CoAT was an ability, not any power amp, only what combining with the Yang chakra does. So yeah, half of Hags/Kurama's chakra and sage mode. Obviously Hags is more powerful, why does that have to mean Sasuke cant be close? Sasuke near enough on a continental+ Madara's level before he absorbed the tailed beasts. As strong as Moon+ Hags? No. But any amount of power above continental+ is getting closer to Moon level. Given that Sasuke is stronger than that Madara, and his peak power was in some way compared to Hags.. his power must be close to Moon level, even at most.
Chidori went through a major boost, as did Susanoo. (Even without an amp constant town level flames can still be damaging to DB Goku)
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
She could definitely send him to another dimension.However, Asura is simply too fast (he's faster than Light at his strongest) and too strong (he can destroy planetoids with simple punches) when compared to Kaguya, so Kaguya won't actually have a chance to send him to another dimension; not unless Asura stands there and waits for Kaguya to make a move, which isn't his style.
Basically, you need to revise your opinion on hax and destructive capacity to include physical stats, and to a lesser extent, character traits.
when did he go faster than lighti dont remember.
and i dont have to revise anything hax she would beat asura if he wasnt as fast as light
i was specifically talking about two traits hax and dc
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixAsura literally punched his way out of a pocket dimension at one point during his fight against Chakravartin, Naraka it was. Also one could argue his sheer size in Destructor form would render him immune to the imprisonment.
Yeah, it'd work on him, unless there's something I'm forgetting.
Originally posted by Sacred 117m
Any speed grade past MHS pretty much does that.
yea id say the naruto verse is hypersonic+. barring teleportaion and stuff like that. id accept relavistic for asura but light speed? lol i need to see proof
i dont really think any of the sage characters can be blitzed because of the sharingan and rinnegan variants.
Originally posted by yungz22
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but it lets them predict. madara has reacted to teleportation multile times and teleportation bypasses speed. thats why i dont think a blitz can occur [/B]
Cole MacGrath, a character who (likely) doesn't break supersonic, was routinely tagging teleporters, so Madara doing it doeant mean a damn thing. In which case, I'm pretty sure Asura and the like could do the same, so that point makes itself.
Precog? Cool. How'd that work out for the Jedi with Order 66?
Originally posted by Sacred 117
👆Cole MacGrath, a character who (likely) doesn't break supersonic, was routinely tagging teleporters, so Madara doing it doeant mean a damn thing. In which case, I'm pretty sure Asura and the like could do the same, so that point makes itself.
Precog? Cool. How'd that work out for the Jedi with Order 66?
lmao the sharingan doesnt give someone clairvoyance it allows you to predict movements.
im not saying asura wouldnt be able to beat them if he was at ls im saying it wouldnt be a blitz.
also the jedi predicted there would be an event that brings balance to the force they just misinterpretted it thinking the darkside would be eliminated. the prediction was correct because anakin did bring balance to the force just not the way they thought it would be.
Originally posted by yungz22
lmao the sharingan doesnt give someone clairvoyance it allows you to predict movements.im not saying asura wouldnt be able to beat them if he was at ls im saying it wouldnt be a blitz.
also the jedi predicted there would be an event that brings balance to the force they just misinterpretted it thinking the darkside would be eliminated. the prediction was correct because anakin did bring balance to the force just not the way they thought it would be.
"Predicting movements" is something Batman can do with a normal set of eyes.
Anticipating getting f**ked just beforehand doesn't necessarily prevent you from getting f**ked up. Henceforth, it won't cover that heavy of a gap.
Originally posted by Sacred 117
"Predicting movements" is something Batman can do with a normal set of eyes.Anticipating getting f**ked just beforehand doesn't necessarily prevent you from getting f**ked up. Henceforth, it won't cover that heavy of a gap.
are you saying that the sharingan doesnt allow one to predict movement more than the average person?
Originally posted by Sacred 117
What I'm saying is it won't prevent blitzing, and lol @ implying Batman is an "average person".
This is true, Sharingan users have been blitzed even if their eyes can follow the movements. Though considering an agreement to this thread has pretty much been made I don't see why its being mentioned.