America's Shield vs Galactus' Armor

Started by h1a86 pages

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Galactus' armor seems to fluctuate as he gets weaker... for an in comic explanation

But since it says base levels..

Galactus' armor after him and Mephisto were spitting enough power out at each other to destroy distant constellations:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Mephisto/ssjd617ye.jpg

His armor looks pretty ok after the Galactus Engine fight:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Cancerverse%20War/thanos_06_007-008.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Cancerverse%20War/thanos_06_016.jpg


The problem is that we don't see G take a hit. He could have used shields (G does have shields you know) or simply repaired his armor (like he always does). Without seeing the actual details of the battle (G getting hit) we are forced to speculate.

His armor after the Scrier/Other fight (taking their shots, planets getting thrown at him, etc), and after taking an enhanced Godblast:
http://s238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/Scrier%20and%20Other/?action=view&current=ThorAnnual038.jpg

If the highest thing Cap has taken without getting broken is Korvac, then you can call this right now.

Planets are fluff when compared to the durability of adamantium. It's like a strong piece of iron getting hit with a mountain of fluff.

Also blunt force durability isn't the same as energy projection durability.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
What's the best thing that's tanked H1?

Even if we follow this logic...

IDK so you have a good point. But one thing is for certain. Energy blast =/= blunt force trauma. G has both high and low showings, where Cap's shield doesn't have many low showings and it's high showings may not quite compare. So averaging things out Cap's shield may fare better. But am I the only one that goes by highest non PIS showings? I thought you guys went by averages.

Originally posted by Galan007
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End of discussion.

Pretty much. It's been shown that Caps shield fails at a certain point against skyfather like powers. Galactus at his higher showings stomps on the shield.

Originally posted by h1a8
The problem is that we don't see G take a hit. He could have used shields (G does have shields you know) or simply repaired his armor (like he always does). Without seeing the actual details of the battle (G getting hit) we are forced to speculate.

Planets are fluff when compared to the durability of adamantium. It's like a strong piece of iron getting hit with a mountain of fluff.

Also blunt force durability isn't the same as energy projection durability.

So, these battles actually happened off panel then?

Except when Morlun has snapped adamantium.

Planets are fluff everybody

Originally posted by h1a8
If it is such a low showing then why do you use it when trying to debate BRB's power? Either BRB busting Galactus helmet is PIS or Cap's shield>>>>>Galactus helmet.

Also know that Cap's shield is more durable than primary adamantium. That means it has the feats of primary adamantium.

I can accept the notion that Bill damaging Galactus' armor is PIS. But wouldn't that, in turn, mean that we'd have to call any instance in which a herald-level character has damaged G's armor PIS as well? Such a line of logic certainly doesn't help the shield supporters in this thread, though.
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Listen, almost everyone/thing in comics has high and low showings. The point of this thread is to figure out which of these 'items' has been consistently portrayed as more durable. ie. The shield has consistently been damaged, or outright destroyed, by sub-Odin-level forces-- newb King Thor(weaker than Odin) dented the phuck out of it, Reigning King Thor(close to Odin's level, but still weaker) slagged it casually, The Serpent(weaker than Odin) shattered it like cheap glass. Galactus' armor, on the other hand, has consistently held up to forces far more powerful than those sufficient to damage the shield(bran posted a few of such instances.)

Consistency is key-- and in that respect, Galactus' armor>Cap's shield.

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As far as Bill being able to damage the shield, I do believe the potential is there. The fella has downed B&T Thor(who was powerful enough to two-shot Surfer), downed Kurse, shattered planets, etc. via hammer-strikes alone. A newb King Thor put a huge dent in Cap's shield with a swift uppercut-- a strike that certainly didn't seem to be packing all of his power behind it. Because of that, I personally think an argument could be made for Bill to dent it as well, IF he put every iota of energy at his disposal behind the strike. He might not leave as large of a dent as KT did, but I think he'd damage it to some extent.

...But that's neither here nor there.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Planets are fluff to things far greater in durability everybody

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Originally posted by Galan007
I can accept the notion that Bill damaging Galactus' armor is PIS. But wouldn't that, in turn, mean that we'd have to call any instance in which a herald-level character has damaged G's armor PIS as well? Such a line of logic certainly doesn't help the shield supporters in this thread, though.
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Listen, almost everyone/thing in comics has high and low showings. The point of this thread is to figure out which of these 'items' has been consistently portrayed as more durable. ie. The shield has consistently been damaged, or outright destroyed, by sub-Odin-level forces-- newb King Thor(weaker than Odin) dented the phuck out of it, Reigning King Thor(close to Odin's level, but still weaker) slagged it casually, The Serpent(weaker than Odin) shattered it like cheap glass. Galactus' armor, on the other hand, has consistently held up to forces far more powerful than those sufficient to damage the shield(bran posted a few of such instances.)

Consistency is key-- and in that respect, Galactus' armor>Cap's shield.

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As far as Bill being able to damage the shield, I do believe the potential is there. The fella has downed B&T Thor(who was powerful enough to two-shot Surfer), downed Kurse, shattered planets, etc. via hammer-strikes alone. A newb King Thor put a huge dent in Cap's shield with a swift uppercut-- a strike that certainly didn't seem to be packing all of his power behind it. Because of that, I personally think an argument could be made for Bill to dent it as well, IF he put every iota of energy at his disposal behind the strike. He might not leave as large of a dent as KT did, but I think he'd damage it to some extent.

...But that's neither here nor there.

Cap's has not been consistently damaged. That is an overstatement. Yes it has been damaged several times but not consistently. But each time was a phucking awe moment in comics. It may be true that G's armor has survived things greater than Cap's shield has shown to survive but also G's armor has succumb to lesser things multiple times than anything that Cap's shield succumb to. This must average out my friend.

I disagree with your King Thor Odin analogy. KT dented the shield with an awesome phucking tool. Odin isn't seen having this tool. So King Thor (with a major advantage)>>>>>>>>Odin with his bare fists. Before you go there let me say that Blast energy =/= blunt force trauma and I'm not sure Odin has feats of damaging things more durable than Cap's shield or primary adamantium.

And I agree that BRB traveling ftl speeds into the shield will dent it.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
So, these battles actually happened off panel then?

Except when Morlun has snapped adamantium.

Morlun physically snapped primary adamantium or secondary? Although I must admit I have no clue who Morlun is and what he has done.

I like how h1 tries to throw his logic in there all casual like, like it's an absolute fact. "Remember, this logic I made up means that..."

I gotta really start using ignore like how it's meant to work.

Originally posted by h1a8
Morlun physically snapped primary adamantium or secondary? Although I must admit I have no clue who Morlun is and what he has done.
Yeah, I think we're done here...

Originally posted by h1a8
Cap's has not been consistently damaged. That is an overstatement.
The entire statement I made:
"The shield has consistently been damaged, or outright destroyed, by sub-Odin-level forces-- -- newb King Thor(weaker than Odin) dented the phuck out of it, Reigning King Thor(close to Odin's level, but still weaker) slagged it casually, The Serpent(weaker than Odin) shattered it like cheap glass."

That isn't an overstatement whatsoever. Any time the shield has gone up against a Skyfather-ish being, it has been obliterated. That certainly isn't a low showing, as it is hugely impressive that a man-made alloy requires forces of that magnitude to damage it. However, Galactus' armor has consistently soaked much higher level of attacks throughout his character history. That's why the armor>the shield, in terms of durability.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I like how h1 tries to throw his logic in there all casual like, like it's an absolute fact. "Remember, this logic I made up means that..."

I gotta really start using ignore like how it's meant to work.

LOL Im a math and science teacher. I can't help it.

Originally posted by h1a8
LOL Im a math and science teacher. I can't help it.
😂 😂 😂

Like you could teach anyone anything. We weren't born yesterday.

Originally posted by Galan007
The entire statement I made:
"The shield has consistently been damaged, or outright destroyed, by sub-Odin-level forces-- -- newb King Thor(weaker than Odin) dented the phuck out of it, Reigning King Thor(close to Odin's level, but still weaker) slagged it casually, The Serpent(weaker than Odin) shattered it like cheap glass."

That isn't an overstatement whatsoever. Any time the shield has gone up against a Skyfather-ish being, it has been obliterated. That certainly isn't a low showing, as it is hugely impressive that a man-made alloy requires forces of that magnitude to damage it. However, Galactus' armor has consistently soaked much higher level of attacks throughout his character history. That's why the armor>the shield, in terms of durability.

I see, my mistake. But again KT with Mjolnir>>>>>Odin alone.
I disagree that Odin is physically stronger than the Serpent, I don't care if Odin beat him in the context way that he did.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I like how h1 tries to throw his logic in there all casual like, like it's an absolute fact. "Remember, this logic I made up means that..."

I gotta really start using ignore like how it's meant to work.

you have to read them, though, or else you'll miss all that free jewelry he keeps droppin':

Originally posted by h1a8
I already did several posts ago. I showed that Hulk's full strength equals only a small portion of Colossus's strength.

Again, you can pinch your own skin with a very minute amount of force.
It would take Hulk almost all of his strength to pinch Colossus's skin. But Colossus can pinch his own skin very easily. So a tiny portion of his strength matches ALL of Hulk's strength. A full punch from Colossus should splatter Hulk.

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Retards need to learn too.

Was that Math or Meth?

I'm guessing the latter... seriously.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
you have to read them, though, or else you'll miss all that free jewelry he keeps droppin':

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I was talking about adamantium Colossus, not standard 616 Colossus. My point still stands.

Originally posted by h1a8
LOL Im a math and science teacher. I can't help it.