America's Shield vs Galactus' Armor

Started by h1a86 pages

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Except comics are consistent about Skyfathers>Cap's shield.

The highest thing Cap's shield has ever tanked H1? Answer please.

Well the argument is still not sound since we have only two skyfathers damaged the shield. That's not enough as to say all skyfathers can do it. IMO KT had greater power penetration output than Odin. He decapitated destroyer. This is something Odin can't do with his own power. Also I don't think Odin could damage Cap's shield at all.

Krona, Thor's hammer blows, Hulk hits, etc.

Originally posted by h1a8
Well the argument is still not sound since we have only two skyfathers damaged the shield. That's not enough as to say all skyfathers can do it. IMO KT had greater power penetration output than Odin. He decapitated destroyer. This is something Odin can't do with his own power. Also I don't think Odin could damage Cap's shield at all.

Krona, Thor's hammer blows, Hulk hits, etc.

When King Thor did it, he was new to the power. And when he did it the other time, he was still shitty, and it was with eyeblasts that he completely blew through it.
He never did it with a hammer throw, and that hammer throw was at the absolute height of his powers. Zelia with Odin's power (and other Dark Gods) almost destroyed the Destroyer armor with an outburst.
Molecule Man also broke the shield when he was a pussy.
Actually, simpler than that, the Serpent broke the shield... there, done.

Krona isn't even canon. Thor's hammer blows or Hulk's hits aren't skyfather.

Also, do you not realize that Odin is the one who enchanted the hammer or something... or he can turn the Destroyer armor off with a wave? Why would he want to destroy something he can so easily control?

h1, please... Just stop.

It's already been proven that Galactus' armor has been consistently portrayed as FAR more durable than Cap's shield. Get over it. Stop arguing just to argue.

So far h1 has made you all look like fools.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I don't even want to get into another "You know nothing, yet you keep arguing" debate with you about Mordru, so please just use Google.

Thor's lightning has knocked him out a couple times...

Isis had the Wizard Shazam's power in her, along with BA's power, along with BA being weakened... so no.
Plus, Adam was smoking afterwards, yet no melting.

You don't even know anything about PG's HV, yet you call it a high showing? See there's a reason you were on ignore, and I really don't like arguing with someone when they're wrong all the time.

Well obviously PG's hv is powerful otherwise you wouldn't bring it up to show that MM melting him is a low showing. What are you trying to do exactly? Make up your mind.


Why would he be able to pinch himself? Why would pinching himself even be brought up in the first place? He's made of solid metal... it takes a special mind to even think about pinching. God this is stupid.
Also, with the moving around shit, we get back to Absorbing Man being able to turn into Cap's shield. Yet he is never any stronger than Hulk, ever. If you want to say he's stronger because he's more durable than just say it. Don't make up a feat for him in the dumbest way possible, and try to act like it's a fact.

Because the Dogs were able to crush adamantium and Hulk was vastly stronger than them to a point where he was able to not only overpower their jaws, but break them as well.

I'm done with this. This is beyond dumb.


Because it makes sense to be able to pinch yourself, you are an organic human like being moving fluidly. Yes I'm special so what? I think of the darnest things and that's what I like about myself. It prevents me from being a follower robot or the same as everyone else. It sets me apart and allows me to know I'm actually alive and not a program.

Can AM pinch himself? If he can then that proves he is stronger than Hulk.

Why were the dogs able to crush adamantium? Because it was stated or shown or both? What type of adamantium, secondary or primary? Also Dogs have teeth which make it easier to penetrate things with. Remember P=F/A
So with the pin point area of their teeth they would need hundreds of times less force to get the same pressure as a fist or hand crushing adamantium. So Hulk overpowered their jaws, not teeth. They were not solid but built with joints and parts. Hulk broke them through their joints. He didn't break the adamantium itself.

It's not dumb. If someone can physically dent or pinch Adamantium then how does that not prove strength?

Originally posted by Galan007
h1, please... Just stop.

It's already been proven that Galactus' armor has been consistently portrayed as FAR more durable than Cap's shield. Get over it. Stop arguing just to argue.

No it hasn't. It's got damaged by things less that anything that damaged Cap's shield. So it averages out. Also in many fights Galactus had the comic never showed G tanking a hit or blast without damage to him.

The only beings shown to damage it was KT and Serpent. If we base things off feats then according to those feats Serpent is physically stronger than all skyfathers and KT has higher penetration power than all skyfathers.

So again, the implication that is X can do Y then Z is weaker than W is faulty since it implies without proof who has more powerful output or whose stronger.

Originally posted by h1a8
No it hasn't. It's got damaged by things less that anything that damaged Cap's shield. So it averages out. Also in many fights Galactus had the comic never showed G tanking a hit or blast without damage to him.

The only beings shown to damage it was KT and Serpent. If we base things off feats then according to those feats Serpent is physically stronger than all skyfathers and KT has higher penetration power than all skyfathers.

So again, the implication that is X can do Y then Z is weaker than W is faulty since it implies without proof who has more powerful output or whose stronger.

I really want to report you for trolling.

Originally posted by Galan007
h1, please... Just stop.

It's already been proven that Galactus' armor has been consistently portrayed as FAR more durable than Cap's shield. Get over it. Stop arguing just to argue.

He's arguing just to be arguing!!!

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I really want to report you for trolling.

Trolling is saying false things knowingly.
We use feats to prove things right?

What feats does any other skyfather have that shows them able to destroy Cap's shield with a blast? What feats of strength does any other skyfather have that proves they can break Cap's shield in pieces? Trolling is actually saying the contrary without proof.

I never seen AM when he absorbed Cap's shield. How do you know Hulk was stronger? Isn't AM stronger than normal when he absorbs his steel ball?

Two pages is all I could handle. Back to ignore.

Originally posted by Mindset
So far h1 has made you all look like fools.

😆 God, I hate you.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Two pages is all I could handle. Back to ignore.

He's not trolling though. He actually believes what he's typing.

Originally posted by zopzop
😆 God, I hate you.

He's not trolling though. He actually believes what he's typing.

Whether he believes it or not, it's still trolling...

There is some amazing logic being displayed in this thread.

Six pages. Six pages of glorious debating.

Three pages were h1... no one knows what happened in those pages

It's where God went to die.

Originally posted by Galan007
Whether he believes it or not, it's still trolling...

trolling is intentional. Look up the definition. I don't say what I say to invoke emotion in people. With every post I make, I believe all would understand my logic and agree with me.

I believe in what I say and I use the truth as I know it to convince.
Not only did I not say anything false but many here say false things and some say things that are neither false nor true (their opinion).

The thing about debating is not criticizing others about their arguments but actually showing the weakness of their argument and debating the right way. Bran was on point until he was getting personal. My logic is sound until proven otherwise. Just prove me wrong. Cut my argument to pieces. I assure you some have succeeded and earned my respect and made me concede nicely.
Don't do personal attacks. Especially knowing I believe 100% in what I'm saying.

In all fairness no one can actually prove whether or not Cap's shield is more durable since neither ever existed and both have high and low contradictory showings. It is subjective of how much from each showing we use in the weighing to determine a decision.

So it is matter of educated opinion, nothing more. There is no trolling here.
Trolling is purposely deceiving, saying things to purposely invoke bad emotion, etc.

Again,

Cap's shield is more durable since it has withstood attacks from beings or levels that was able to damage Galactus armor.

I know Galactus has faced beings that exceed what the shield has taken. But most of those fights didn't involve showing the reader Galactus tanking hits without his armor being damage. Galactus has the ability to instantly repair his armor. We can only speculate on what the writer thought how Galactus fared as being damaged during (not after) the fights he had.

Lastly, blunt force trauma isn't the same as energy projection. Shield is definitely more durable against hits but against blasts then it more plausible for either.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Three pages were h1... no one knows what happened in those pages
It was actually a decent discussion until he popped in... abhil came out looking good, actually.