America's Shield vs Galactus' Armor

Originally posted by h1a8
What are the feats of Isis lightning and what are the feats of that particular kind of acid rain? But in composition HV=/=lightning nor acid rain.

The only point you have is PG's hv. But what are her feats with the hv that compares to Superman's Hv?

So if we have a block of adamantium and a character physically pinches it (deforms it) with ease then that doesn't prove strength?

Oh it wasn't made up because I said Colossus can pinch his skin, not that he was seen doing it.

But considering Isis had Shazam's power at the time... lol

It's never happened, irrelevant. Nor would it put one above Hulk's level even if happened. Adamantium Dog scan seems perfect here.

Has Adamantium Colossus ever pinched his adamantium skin?
Or did you make that up and act like it's a fact?

I can't wait to hear about this. 🙂

lol at you arguing about everything you said here though.

Originally posted by h1a8
I see, my mistake. But again KT with Mjolnir>>>>>Odin alone.

This is actually one of the most incorrect statements I've seen you make.

Originally posted by h1a8
I disagree that Odin is physically stronger than the Serpent, I don't care if Odin beat him in the context way that he did.

Originally posted by Galan007
Disagree all you want. The Serpent himself stated he was not as powerful as Odin.

I believe:

Skyfathers > Cap Shield and Adamantium - without much problems

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
What are the feats of MM's HV, [b]H1?

But considering Isis had Shazam's power at the time... lol

It's never happened, irrelevant. Nor would it put one above Hulk's level even if happened. Adamantium Dog scan seems perfect here.

Has Adamantium Colossus ever pinched his adamantium skin?
Or did you make that up and act like it's a fact?

I can't wait to hear about this. 🙂

lol at you arguing about everything you said here though. [/B]

You got me about MM's feats with HV. But I didn't know BA resisted PG's HV. A lowball attack is when someone knows feats that are contrary yet they still argue as if it is a fact.

But I know that Superman's HV can penetrate or melt BA by feats though. I can definitely give you feats that prove it.

In composition, lightning (especially the kind that BA controls) doesn't equal hv so I can't go with that one or the acid rain.

I never said Colossus pinched his skin before. I said he can. Big difference.
Thor can lift a trailer home. That doesn't mean he has though.

I don't understand the Adamantium Dog point. I know it was stated that those dogs can crush adamantium (I'm assuming primary and not secondary since both are called adamantium in comics). But it was never shown.
So either they can't crush adamantium or it was PIS that they didn't crush Hulk or maybe they didn't get the chance to fully try to crush Hulk.

Originally posted by Galan007
No.

This is actually one of the most incorrect statements I've seen you make.

Disagree all you want. The Serpent himself stated he was not as powerful as Odin.

Odin on his best day can't decapitate Destroyer with ease. Odin hasn't shown the power to damage something durable like Cap's shield.

Where was it stated? I take statements with a grain of salt. Statements and actual feats are two different things. Odin never once showed he was physically stronger than the Serpent. Being more powerful has nothing to do with strength. Also I don't see Odin damaging Cap's shield in a forum fight. IMO, Cap's shield was nerfed in recent times, as Thor is being nerfed.

And did you see how Odin beat Serpent. Durability and output power are two different things.

Originally posted by h1a8
You got me about MM's feats with HV. But I didn't know BA resisted PG's HV. A lowball attack is when someone knows feats that are contrary yet they still argue as if it is a fact.

But I know that Superman's HV can penetrate or melt BA by feats though. I can definitely give you feats that prove it.

In composition, lightning (especially the kind that BA controls) doesn't equal hv so I can't go with that one or the acid rain.

I never said Colossus pinched his skin before. I said he can. Big difference.
Thor can lift a trailer home. That doesn't mean he has though.

I don't understand the Adamantium Dog point. I know it was stated that those dogs can crush adamantium (I'm assuming primary and not secondary since both are called adamantium in comics). But it was never shown.
So either they can't crush adamantium or it was PIS that they didn't crush Hulk or maybe they didn't get the chance to fully try to crush Hulk.

Irrelevant.

BA uses his lightning to fry people. Shazam used his lightning to blow Mordru apart (mind you he came back). Captain Marvel was hurting Eclipso Superman with lightning. You don't think this is more than MM's HV?
And Isis using Shazam's power was using lightning against Adam while Adam was sharing power with Billy, Mary, and Isis herself. So ya, MM's HV doing anything is PIS.

Except not only does this adamantium Colossus not exist, but he's also not shown the power to pinch his skin either. Which you're using as a fact. Which is a joke.
And this made up character can't pinch adamantium either, so there's that.

You realize you just questioned the dogs crushing adamantium while having a discussion about a made up character who you're making up feats for... don't you?

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
I believe:

Skyfathers > Cap Shield and Adamantium - without much problems

Comics are inconsistent.
IMO
Galactus level beings>>>>Cap's shield>>>Skyfathers

Originally posted by h1a8
Comics are inconsistent.
IMO
Galactus level beings>>>>Cap's shield>>>Skyfathers

The highest thing Cap's shield has ever tanked H1? Answer please.

Originally posted by h1a8
Odin on his best day can't decapitate Destroyer with ease. Odin hasn't shown the power to damage something durable like Cap's shield.

Where was it stated? I take statements with a grain of salt. Statements and actual feats are two different things. Odin never once showed he was physically stronger than the Serpent. Being more powerful has nothing to do with strength. Also I don't see Odin damaging Cap's shield in a forum fight. IMO, Cap's shield was nerfed in recent times, as Thor is being nerfed.

And did you see how Odin beat Serpent. Durability and output power are two different things.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Except comics are consistent about Skyfathers>Cap's shield.

The highest thing Cap's shield has ever tanked H1? Answer please.

Originally posted by Galan007
facepalm

He'll dodge that question. Every shield supporter does.

He'll come up with something... unsuspected (to say the least)...

Maybe not as surpising as Superman vs two planets vs Galactus vs two planets as proof of... I'm not sure... but it will be surprising to say the least.

It was stated by the serpent that he wasnt powerful and strong enough to defeat Odin, and this is the same Odin before he gets the Odin-force. If King Thor can destroyed Cap shield with a eye blast and Serpent can break the cap shield with his physical strength so can Odin. H1 you nick pic to damn much, but hey it's you!!!

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Woah, woah, woah. Let's not put h1 in a group.

He'll come up with something... unsuspected (to say the least)...

Maybe not as surpising as Superman vs two planets vs Galactus vs two planets as proof of... I'm not sure... but it will be surprising to say the least.

Yeah, that sure was something...

You never know where Superman scans are needed, and a Galactus armor vs Cap's shield seemed like a perfect placement to me.

Hopefully we see him make more completely out of nowhere appearances.

It reminded me of the Johnny Cochran Wookie argument from South Park.

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Originally posted by h1a8
I see, my mistake. But again KT with Mjolnir>>>>>Odin alone.

Oh 🤨, this statement ^ says it all, Math and Science teacher in what reality, the Twilight Zone!?

You really dont think before you speak do you, damn why Im even asking 😬

off hand, it "tanked" gladiator's barrage:

Originally posted by Galan007
It reminded me of the Johnny Cochran Wookie argument from South Park.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Lowball is looking at the lowest Black Adam feat you can find in an attempt to up Glad's stock... and Black Adam one punched MM immediately afterwards anyway.

Irrelevant.

BA uses his lightning to fry people. Shazam used his lightning to blow Mordru apart (mind you he came back). Captain Marvel was hurting Eclipso Superman with lightning. You don't think this is more than MM's HV?
And Isis using Shazam's power was using lightning against Adam while Adam was sharing power with Billy, Mary, and Isis herself. So ya, MM's HV doing anything is PIS.

Except not only does this adamantium Colossus not exist, but he's also not shown the power to pinch his skin either. Which you're using as a fact. Which is a joke.
And this made up character can't pinch adamantium either, so there's that.

You realize you just questioned the dogs crushing adamantium while having a discussion about a made up character who you're making up feats for... don't you?

I still don't think it's a low showing from BA since him resisting PG is a high showing. Superman could never fully resist HV being used on him. I would say it's somewhere in the middle (or average). But I didn't know of the PG feat before I said what I said. Intentions are everything.

So you are saying that we shouldn't believe Colossus can pinch his own organic skin? While he can effortlessly move and maneuver around better than a human being could? It may not be a fact as you said but it's more logical to believe in it than the contrary. There are plenty of things that can't be proven as facts in comics (especially with contradictory things) but that doesn't mean we can't use good logic and infer.

I don't fully understand the Adamantium dog point you were trying to make. So don't judge what I said until I fully know what you are trying to get at. How is that scenario relevant to the Colossus argument?

Originally posted by h1a8
Who is Modru? What has he done durability wise? Can Thor's lightning hurt Thor the way it hurts other beings with similar durability? NO! Isis lightning shouldn't be able to hurt BA as much as someone with equal durability.

I still don't think it's a low showing from BA since him resisting PG is a high showing. Superman could never fully resist HV being used on him. I would say it's somewhere in the middle (or average). But I didn't know of the PG feat before I said what I said. Intentions are everything.

So you are saying that we shouldn't believe Colossus can pinch his own organic skin? While he can effortlessly move and maneuver around better than a human being could? It may not be a fact as you said but it's more logical to believe in it than the contrary. There are plenty of things that can't be proven as facts in comics (especially with contradictory things) but that doesn't mean we can't use good logic and infer.

I don't fully understand the Adamantium dog point you were trying to make. So don't judge what I said until I fully know what you are trying to get at. How is that scenario relevant to the Colossus argument?

Thor's lightning has knocked him out a couple times...

Isis had the Wizard Shazam's power in her, along with BA's power, along with BA being weakened... so no.
Plus, Adam was smoking afterwards, yet no melting.

You don't even know anything about PG's HV, yet you call it a high showing? See there's a reason you were on ignore, and I really don't like arguing with someone when they're wrong all the time.

Why would he be able to pinch himself? Why would pinching himself even be brought up in the first place? He's made of solid metal... it takes a special mind to even think about pinching. God this is stupid.
Also, with the moving around shit, we get back to Absorbing Man being able to turn into Cap's shield. Yet he is never any stronger than Hulk, ever. If you want to say he's stronger because he's more durable than just say it. Don't make up a feat for him in the dumbest way possible, and try to act like it's a fact.

Because the Dogs were able to crush adamantium and Hulk was vastly stronger than them to a point where he was able to not only overpower their jaws, but break them as well.

I'm done with this. This is beyond dumb.