Originally posted by psycho gundamIf I drop stupid statements then you should quote them in context. Why be slick and try to hide the fact I was talking about adamantium Colossus? Is it because the quote isn't so stupid in that case?
you have to read them, though, or else you'll miss all that free jewelry he keeps droppin':I already did several posts ago. I showed that Hulk's full strength equals only a small portion of Colossus's strength.
Again, you can pinch your own skin with a very minute amount of force.
It would take Hulk almost all of his strength to pinch Colossus's skin. But Colossus can pinch his own skin very easily. So a tiny portion of his strength matches ALL of Hulk's strength. A full punch from Colossus should splatter Hulk........
Originally posted by h1a8
If I drop stupid statements then you should quote them in context. Why be slick and try to hide the fact I was talking about adamantium Colossus? Is it because the quote isn't so stupid in that case?
Originally posted by h1a8
Although large in size dead galaxies aren't very durable like adamantium or Juggernaut.
Originally posted by h1a8Your post makes no sense at all in context.
If I drop stupid statements then you should quote them in context. Why be slick and try to hide the fact I was talking about adamantium Colossus? Is it because the quote isn't so stupid in that case?
Plus, Colossus is usually more durable to his skin getting damaged than Hulk anyway. He's still no where near Hulk's level.
Absorbing Man can turn into adamantium or Cap's shield or whatever, he's never portrayed as supremely strong in these forms.
The whole pinching argument is beyond stupid as well.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Your post makes no sense at all in context.Plus, Colossus is usually more durable to his skin getting damaged than Hulk anyway. He's still no where near Hulk's level.
Absorbing Man can turn into adamantium or Cap's shield or whatever, he's never portrayed as supremely strong in these forms.The whole pinching argument is beyond stupid as well.
Originally posted by h1a8
Gladiator is more skilled. And I doubt BA is stronger and more durable than Glads at his best. Hell BA has proven to be very weak against HV. Glads has HV in spades.So again how would a flying brick beat someone who is a peer and has more powers?
Originally posted by h1a8
Glads has low showings yes but that has nothing to do with him fighting at his best ability in this forum.Fact one: Glads has displayed faster combat speed than BA
Fact two: Glads can seriously damage BA with HV. MM proved that BA is weak against it. Also Glads HV is hotter than the core of stars and have penetrated Hulk's chest to his heart organ. And if you believe in matching blasts shows being in the vicinity of someone's power (I don't) then Gladiator's HV has matched Tyrants output and PF Cyke's output.
Fact three: Currently Glads is shown to much more powerful than his average self. He went toe to toe with a being that blocked Thor's swings with a pinky.
Fact four: Glads has freeze breath that he can use to slow BA down to not only get more hits in but to be able to defend better against him.LOL at BA being a high herald let alone a trans. He's just a flying brick who is very strong and durable. Anyone with HV or nice energy projection will uck him up.
Here's h1 focusing entirely on BA and Thor's low showings while defending Gladiator...
Instances when CA's shield was damaged or broken:
http://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/14735/how-was-thor-able-to-dent-captain-americas-shield
If they've not been mentioned already.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I sure did.You didn't read mine though by the looks of it Mr Scientist.
He base strength off feats, not whose skin is more durable. The fact that Adamantium Colossus CAN PINCH his own skin with ease proves that he is stronger. This is a strength feat my friend, that's why I said you didn't read my reply correctly. Hulk can easily pinch 616 Colossus skin although Hulk's skin is less durable.
Originally posted by h1a8
I did read yours. I'll clarify.
I never implied stronger skin = stronger being.He base strength off feats, not whose skin is more durable. The fact that Adamantium Colossus CAN PINCH his own skin with ease proves that he is stronger. This is a strength feat my friend, that's why I said you didn't read my reply correctly. Hulk can easily pinch 616 Colossus skin although Hulk's skin is less durable.
Originally posted by h1a8
With a microscopic amount of my strength I can move my flesh. Similarly, If it takes a microscopic amount of Colossus' strength to move his own adamantium flesh BUT all of Hulk's strength to barely move in Colossus's adamantium flesh skin then a tiny portion of Colossus strength is far beyond Hulk's. So if Colossus hit Hulk with any significant portion of his strength Hulk would be splattered.Now this is and if then argument. So the conclusion only follows if the premises does.
Also, you completely made up Colossus pinching his skin... so there's that as well.
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftWell that's a different story but certainly not made up. But before we go any further do you agree that if Adamantium Colossus can pinch his skin with ease then he is stronger than Hulk right?
Also, you completely made up Colossus pinching his skin... so there's that as well.
Originally posted by h1a8Him taking acid rain to no effect, him taking PG's HV with no "melting", a depowered BA by quite a bit taking PG going all out's HV and only having his hair singed and emblem melted, a depowered BA getting hit by Isis' lightning without melting, etc.
BA getting damaged by HV isn't a low showing. If you disagree then clearly state what feats by him contradict his being damaged by HV.
He was getting arrows stuck in him in the same issue... is he now weak to arrows?
But you missed the point. You talk of one low feat, or "vulnerability" of BA while completely ignoring Gladiator's completely shitty history. Might as well have said Gladiator's weakness is Gambit's cards.
Originally posted by h1a8Prove it wasn't made up.
Well that's a different story but certainly not made up. But before we go any further do you agree that if Adamantium Colossus can pinch his skin with ease then he is stronger than Hulk right?
No, that's stupid.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Him taking acid rain to no effect, him taking PG's HV with no "melting", a depowered BA by quite a bit taking PG going all out's HV and only having his hair singed and emblem melted, a depowered BA getting hit by Isis' lightning without melting, etc.
Oh, and the fact that he gets hit by magic lightning all the time without his face melting off.He was getting arrows stuck in him in the same issue... is he now weak to arrows?
But you missed the point. You talk of one low feat, or "vulnerability" of BA while completely ignoring Gladiator's completely shitty history. Might as well have said Gladiator's weakness is Gambit's cards.
Prove it wasn't made up.
No, that's stupid.
The only point you have is PG's hv. But what are her feats with the hv that compares to Superman's Hv?
So if we have a block of adamantium and a character physically pinches it (deforms it) with ease then that doesn't prove strength?
Oh it wasn't made up because I said Colossus can pinch his skin, not that he was seen doing it.