Originally posted by Uriel005
was I right on where it was from?
Yep
http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Brave_and_the_Bold_Vol_1_72
Yep
http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Brave_and_the_Bold_Vol_1_72
Originally posted by Uriel005
was I right on where it was from?
Originally posted by leonidas
lol at this thread. as i said many pages ago. cosmics stomp. if you can't see how they do that (ss alone does it with minimal prep, let alone 3 days) you're.....an idiot.
lol at this thread indeed. Ive had abiwhatever his name is on ignore for a prolonged period now due to his rabid sycophancy and deliberately massacred interpretations of on panel occurences ,and after going against my better judgement and taking a peek at the "arguments" in this thread its good to see that my decision was a wise one.
Regarding the feat in question and whether Surfer was amped. The answer is an emphatic: NOT AT ALL. Characterizing it as such is a unsurprising attempt to twist on panel showings to downplay the character.
What actually happened:
Surfers clone (with the exact same powwers) used a time wave explosion to send Surfer back into the past in order for Surfer to learn the truth of his past and rediscover himself.
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfercloneenrgy1.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfercloneenergy2.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfercloneenergy3.jpg
This is all happening at the end of Silver Surfer v3 128.
Then at the beginning of issue 129 is where the scan in question comes from and we see Surfer inside of this mushroom cloud explosion caused by his clone:
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfercloneenergycloud1.jpg
Now note as the mushroom cloud engulfs him it is mentioned that it floods his very cells mind etc and then causes him great pain andknocks him unconscious. Furthermore as he is within the cloud, he is being carried to an unknown destination (which we later discover is through time).
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfercloneenergycloud2.jpg
(then he discovers Alicia has also been caught up within the cloud)
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surferenergycloud3.jpg
(he then briefly escapes the cloud but is caught up in it again....)
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surferenergycloud4.jpg
(...before finally arriving in 1947)
In short, Upon the initial detonation of the mushroom cloud, Surfer is engulfed by it and his cells are flooded with the chronal energy through which he is knocked out, temporarily recovers and escapes it, is re-engulfed by it, and finally transported to 1947.
The clear proposed (as mentioned by his clone) and demonstrated function of the mushroom cloud (as seen in the above scans) therefore was to transport Surfer back to the past in order for him learn the truth about himself Absolutely no mention is made in either this particular issue or any other, of the cloud having any form of lasting effect on his actual abilities let alone amping them up. That is a completely asinine fabrication entirely divergent from on panel reality.
The chronal blast caused him pain, knocked him out, and transported him into the past. Thats it.
Surfer then tries to go back to the present immediately after it, but fails further showing that his abilities were certainly NOT at all amplified by the explosion created by his clone.
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfertriestotravelbackbutfails.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfertriestotravelbackbutfails2.jpg
Infact, this feat
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfermovingsidewaysthroughtime.jpg
which is disingenuously being associated with this non existent "amp" occurred in SSv3 131, a whole two issues after Surfer got blasted by his clone, in between which there was no mention of the initial energy explosion having any effect on Surfers powers whatsoever.
The energy of the mushroom cloud flooding his body and cells, in and of itself does not equate to his abilities being amped.That is non-sequtuir reasoning at its most shameful particularly because in this scenario it is being used deliberately to confound and mislead.
Then the fact that we actually see the result of Surfers engulfment in both text and artistic depiction (pain, unconsciousness, and being teleported to the past) and observe no allusion to amp whatsoever makes it indisputable.
The feat was performed under Surfer own power and the suggestions of an amp in this thread are no more than hate filled delusions.
Originally posted by Naija boy
lol at this thread indeed. Ive had abiwhatever his name is on ignore for a prolonged period now due to his rabid sycophancy and deliberately massacred interpretations of on panel occurences ,and after going against my better judgement and taking a peek at the "arguments" in this thread its good to see that my decision was a wise one.Regarding the feat in question and whether Surfer was amped. The answer is an emphatic: NOT AT ALL. Characterizing it as such is a unsurprising attempt to twist on panel showings to downplay the character.
[b]What actually happened:
Surfers clone (with the exact same powwers) used a time wave explosion to send Surfer back into the past in order for Surfer to learn the truth of his past and rediscover himself.
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfercloneenrgy1.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfercloneenergy2.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfercloneenergy3.jpgThis is all happening at the end of Silver Surfer v3 128.
Then at the beginning of issue 129 is where the scan in question comes from and we see Surfer inside of this mushroom cloud explosion caused by his clone:http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfercloneenergycloud1.jpg
Now note as the mushroom cloud engulfs him it is mentioned that it floods his very cells mind etc and then causes him great pain andknocks him unconscious. Furthermore as he is within the cloud, he is being carried to an unknown destination (which we later discover is through time).
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfercloneenergycloud2.jpg
(then he discovers Alicia has also been caught up within the cloud)http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surferenergycloud3.jpg
(he then briefly escapes the cloud but is caught up in it again....)http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surferenergycloud4.jpg
(...before finally arriving in 1947)In short, Upon the initial detonation of the mushroom cloud, Surfer is engulfed by it and his cells are flooded with the chronal energy through which he is knocked out, temporarily recovers and escapes it, is re-engulfed by it, and finally transported to 1947.
The clear proposed (as mentioned by his clone) and demonstrated function of the mushroom cloud (as seen in the above scans) therefore was to transport Surfer back to the past in order for him learn the truth about himself Absolutely no mention is made in either this particular issue or any other, of the cloud having any form of lasting effect on his actual abilities let alone amping them up. That is a completely asinine fabrication entirely divergent from on panel reality.
The chronal blast caused him pain, knocked him out, and transported him into the past. Thats it.Surfer then tries to go back to the present immediately after it, but fails further showing that his abilities were certainly NOT at all amplified by the explosion created by his clone.
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfertriestotravelbackbutfails.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfertriestotravelbackbutfails2.jpgInfact, this feat
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfermovingsidewaysthroughtime.jpg
which is disingenuously being associated with this non existent "amp" occurred in SSv3 131, a whole two issues after Surfer got blasted by his clone, in between which there was no mention of the initial energy explosion having any effect on Surfers powers whatsoever.
The energy of the mushroom cloud flooding his body and cells, in and of itself does not equate to his abilities being amped.That is non-sequtuir reasoning at its most shameful particularly because in this scenario it is being used deliberately to confound and mislead.
Then the fact that we actually see the result of Surfers engulfment in both text and artistic depiction (pain, unconsciousness, and being teleported to the past) and observe no allusion to amp whatsoever makes it indisputable.The feat was performed under Surfer own power and the suggestions of an amp in this thread are no more than hate filled delusions. [/B]
lol
FAR and away more patiently expained than anything i was willing to get into. 👆
and you and ambient are right of course. he was never amped for the feat. i stopped following though because the stupidity of the claim was too much wrap my head around. of course, now i guess we know flash can run in space and beat the spectre so the thread wasn't a total loss. lol
and, in my defense, i did try and warn ambient....
Originally posted by Naija boy
lol at this thread indeed. Ive had abiwhatever his name is on ignore for a prolonged period now due to his rabid sycophancy and deliberately massacred interpretations of on panel occurences ,and after going against my better judgement and taking a peek at the "arguments" in this thread its good to see that my decision was a wise one.Regarding the feat in question and whether Surfer was amped. The answer is an emphatic: NOT AT ALL. Characterizing it as such is a unsurprising attempt to twist on panel showings to downplay the character.
[b]What actually happened:
Surfers clone (with the exact same powwers) used a time wave explosion to send Surfer back into the past in order for Surfer to learn the truth of his past and rediscover himself.
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfercloneenrgy1.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfercloneenergy2.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfercloneenergy3.jpgThis is all happening at the end of Silver Surfer v3 128.
Then at the beginning of issue 129 is where the scan in question comes from and we see Surfer inside of this mushroom cloud explosion caused by his clone:http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfercloneenergycloud1.jpg
Now note as the mushroom cloud engulfs him it is mentioned that it floods his very cells mind etc and then causes him great pain andknocks him unconscious. Furthermore as he is within the cloud, he is being carried to an unknown destination (which we later discover is through time).
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfercloneenergycloud2.jpg
(then he discovers Alicia has also been caught up within the cloud)http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surferenergycloud3.jpg
(he then briefly escapes the cloud but is caught up in it again....)http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surferenergycloud4.jpg
(...before finally arriving in 1947)In short, Upon the initial detonation of the mushroom cloud, Surfer is engulfed by it and his cells are flooded with the chronal energy through which he is knocked out, temporarily recovers and escapes it, is re-engulfed by it, and finally transported to 1947.
The clear proposed (as mentioned by his clone) and demonstrated function of the mushroom cloud (as seen in the above scans) therefore was to transport Surfer back to the past in order for him learn the truth about himself Absolutely no mention is made in either this particular issue or any other, of the cloud having any form of lasting effect on his actual abilities let alone amping them up. That is a completely asinine fabrication entirely divergent from on panel reality.
The chronal blast caused him pain, knocked him out, and transported him into the past. Thats it.Surfer then tries to go back to the present immediately after it, but fails further showing that his abilities were certainly NOT at all amplified by the explosion created by his clone.
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfertriestotravelbackbutfails.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfertriestotravelbackbutfails2.jpgInfact, this feat
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfermovingsidewaysthroughtime.jpg
which is disingenuously being associated with this non existent "amp" occurred in SSv3 131, a whole two issues after Surfer got blasted by his clone, in between which there was no mention of the initial energy explosion having any effect on Surfers powers whatsoever.
The energy of the mushroom cloud flooding his body and cells, in and of itself does not equate to his abilities being amped.That is non-sequtuir reasoning at its most shameful particularly because in this scenario it is being used deliberately to confound and mislead.
Then the fact that we actually see the result of Surfers engulfment in both text and artistic depiction (pain, unconsciousness, and being teleported to the past) and observe no allusion to amp whatsoever makes it indisputable.The feat was performed under Surfer own power and the suggestions of an amp in this thread are no more than hate filled delusions. [/B]
BOOM!
Originally posted by leonidasJust because he perceives it doesnt mean he can react to it.
😐ss actually sees TIME differently than we do and can exist within a frame of spacetime where ALL time--past and future--intersect. so, yeah, safe to say his perceptual abilities are such that a case could be made for his being able to perceive the flashes. it's not necessarily about just 'speed'. it's how ss perceives spacetime as a whole.
Originally posted by Naija boy
lol at this thread indeed. Ive had abiwhatever his name is on ignore for a prolonged period now due to his rabid sycophancy and deliberately massacred interpretations of on panel occurences ,and after going against my better judgement and taking a peek at the "arguments" in this thread its good to see that my decision was a wise one.Regarding the feat in question and whether Surfer was amped. The answer is an emphatic: NOT AT ALL. Characterizing it as such is a unsurprising attempt to twist on panel showings to downplay the character.
[b]What actually happened:
Surfers clone (with the exact same powwers) used a time wave explosion to send Surfer back into the past in order for Surfer to learn the truth of his past and rediscover himself.
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfercloneenrgy1.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfercloneenergy2.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfercloneenergy3.jpgThis is all happening at the end of Silver Surfer v3 128.
Then at the beginning of issue 129 is where the scan in question comes from and we see Surfer inside of this mushroom cloud explosion caused by his clone:http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfercloneenergycloud1.jpg
Now note as the mushroom cloud engulfs him it is mentioned that it floods his very cells mind etc and then causes him great pain andknocks him unconscious. Furthermore as he is within the cloud, he is being carried to an unknown destination (which we later discover is through time).
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfercloneenergycloud2.jpg
(then he discovers Alicia has also been caught up within the cloud)http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surferenergycloud3.jpg
(he then briefly escapes the cloud but is caught up in it again....)http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surferenergycloud4.jpg
(...before finally arriving in 1947)In short, Upon the initial detonation of the mushroom cloud, Surfer is engulfed by it and his cells are flooded with the chronal energy through which he is knocked out, temporarily recovers and escapes it, is re-engulfed by it, and finally transported to 1947.
The clear proposed (as mentioned by his clone) and demonstrated function of the mushroom cloud (as seen in the above scans) therefore was to transport Surfer back to the past in order for him learn the truth about himself Absolutely no mention is made in either this particular issue or any other, of the cloud having any form of lasting effect on his actual abilities let alone amping them up. That is a completely asinine fabrication entirely divergent from on panel reality.
The chronal blast caused him pain, knocked him out, and transported him into the past. Thats it.Surfer then tries to go back to the present immediately after it, but fails further showing that his abilities were certainly NOT at all amplified by the explosion created by his clone.
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfertriestotravelbackbutfails.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfertriestotravelbackbutfails2.jpgInfact, this feat
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfermovingsidewaysthroughtime.jpg
which is disingenuously being associated with this non existent "amp" occurred in SSv3 131, a whole two issues after Surfer got blasted by his clone, in between which there was no mention of the initial energy explosion having any effect on Surfers powers whatsoever.
The energy of the mushroom cloud flooding his body and cells, in and of itself does not equate to his abilities being amped.That is non-sequtuir reasoning at its most shameful particularly because in this scenario it is being used deliberately to confound and mislead.
Then the fact that we actually see the result of Surfers engulfment in both text and artistic depiction (pain, unconsciousness, and being teleported to the past) and observe no allusion to amp whatsoever makes it indisputable.The feat was performed under Surfer own power and the suggestions of an amp in this thread are no more than hate filled delusions. [/B]
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Just because he perceives it doesnt mean he can react to it.
Care to give some examples of people perceiving things but yet not being able to react to them? Not counting the mentally or physically disabled of course.
And while you're at it can you show me a squared circle?
😂
Naija is as butthurt as usual. He said nothing we already don't know. Surfer stopping because his subconscious didn't allow him to leave somehow means that he didn't absorb chronal energies in his body? I guess superman didn't do it in "Time and time again". 😂 @ it only koed him, it was directly imbued in his cells and there is no mention of it getting driven out. Surfer was amped upon chronal energies and thus any feat of him time related in that arc is invalid. As for sychophancy and rabid fanboyism, IRONY coming from one of the biggest surfer fanboys ultimatethor. LMAO.
Originally posted by dmillsI can see Manny Pacquiao throw a punch... I can't block/dodge it very well if I was in the ring with him
Care to give some examples of people perceiving things but yet not being able to react to them? Not counting the mentally or physically disabled of course.And while you're at it can you show me a squared circle?
Originally posted by dmills
That's a skill discrepancy for the most part.
Also (I just wanted to post this because its awesome).
You can see the red guy seeing what the blue guy is doing, but being all like WTF and unable to react to it:
Originally posted by psycho gundam
wut?
Originally posted by Naija boy
lol at this thread indeed. Ive had abiwhatever his name is on ignore for a prolonged period now due to his rabid sycophancy and deliberately massacred interpretations of on panel occurences ,and after going against my better judgement and taking a peek at the "arguments" in this thread its good to see that my decision was a wise one.Regarding the feat in question and whether Surfer was amped. The answer is an emphatic: NOT AT ALL. Characterizing it as such is a unsurprising attempt to twist on panel showings to downplay the character.
[b]What actually happened:
Surfers clone (with the exact same powwers) used a time wave explosion to send Surfer back into the past in order for Surfer to learn the truth of his past and rediscover himself.
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfercloneenrgy1.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfercloneenergy2.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfercloneenergy3.jpgThis is all happening at the end of Silver Surfer v3 128.
Then at the beginning of issue 129 is where the scan in question comes from and we see Surfer inside of this mushroom cloud explosion caused by his clone:http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfercloneenergycloud1.jpg
Now note as the mushroom cloud engulfs him it is mentioned that it floods his very cells mind etc and then causes him great pain andknocks him unconscious. Furthermore as he is within the cloud, he is being carried to an unknown destination (which we later discover is through time).
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfercloneenergycloud2.jpg
(then he discovers Alicia has also been caught up within the cloud)http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surferenergycloud3.jpg
(he then briefly escapes the cloud but is caught up in it again....)http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surferenergycloud4.jpg
(...before finally arriving in 1947)In short, Upon the initial detonation of the mushroom cloud, Surfer is engulfed by it and his cells are flooded with the chronal energy through which he is knocked out, temporarily recovers and escapes it, is re-engulfed by it, and finally transported to 1947.
The clear proposed (as mentioned by his clone) and demonstrated function of the mushroom cloud (as seen in the above scans) therefore was to transport Surfer back to the past in order for him learn the truth about himself Absolutely no mention is made in either this particular issue or any other, of the cloud having any form of lasting effect on his actual abilities let alone amping them up. That is a completely asinine fabrication entirely divergent from on panel reality.
The chronal blast caused him pain, knocked him out, and transported him into the past. Thats it.Surfer then tries to go back to the present immediately after it, but fails further showing that his abilities were certainly NOT at all amplified by the explosion created by his clone.
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfertriestotravelbackbutfails.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfertriestotravelbackbutfails2.jpgInfact, this feat
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surfermovingsidewaysthroughtime.jpg
which is disingenuously being associated with this non existent "amp" occurred in SSv3 131, a whole two issues after Surfer got blasted by his clone, in between which there was no mention of the initial energy explosion having any effect on Surfers powers whatsoever.
The energy of the mushroom cloud flooding his body and cells, in and of itself does not equate to his abilities being amped.That is non-sequtuir reasoning at its most shameful particularly because in this scenario it is being used deliberately to confound and mislead.
Then the fact that we actually see the result of Surfers engulfment in both text and artistic depiction (pain, unconsciousness, and being teleported to the past) and observe no allusion to amp whatsoever makes it indisputable.The feat was performed under Surfer own power and the suggestions of an amp in this thread are no more than hate filled delusions. [/B]
thumbsup
Just didn't have that much patience describing all that event through my IPhone - too much typing - + knowing its only going to fall on deaf ears, as Abhi for reason not explained thinks that PC or Energy Surfer absorbs is stored in his cells like Superman - even thought the scan itself never even mentioned the word "entered" or "absorb" as often quoted by him on this debate 🙁 .. I thought the only way for him to see that his wrong is by showing him how Surfer's power work, that the energy his absorb is stored not in his cells but in his aura therefore debunking his claim, unfortunately that also fall on deaf ears..
What so funny dough is that he thinks he totally stomp all our arguments, go figure..
Originally posted by leonidas
lolFAR and away more patiently expained than anything i was willing to get into. 👆
and you and ambient are right of course. he was never amped for the feat. i stopped following though because the stupidity of the claim was too much wrap my head around. of course, now i guess we know flash can run in space and beat the spectre so the thread wasn't a total loss. lol
and, in my defense, i did try and warn ambient....
Originally posted by Ambient
thumbsupJust didn't have that much patience describing all that event through my IPhone - too much typing - + knowing its only going to fall on deaf ears, as Abhi for reason not explained thinks that PC or Energy Surfer absorbs is stored in his cells like Superman - even thought the scan itself never even mentioned the word "entered" or "absorb" as often quoted by him on this debate 🙁 .. I thought the only way for him to see that his wrong is by showing him how Surfer's power work, that the energy his absorb is stored not in his cells but in his aura therefore debunking his claim, unfortunately that also fall on deaf ears..
What so funny dough is that he thinks he totally stomp all our arguments, go figure..
Yeah! That u did but I just though that it would be a challenge to get on his nerve which I think was pretty much a success, he did report me 2x I think on this thread.. LoLz
