Flashs vs Cosmic Heros

Originally posted by leonidas
definitely an outlier. I wouldn't suggest that in a vs match he can see the future, obviously. I would say that it, and a couple other showings, do more than enough to suggest that ss sees time very differently from most though. which was the point of my original post (though I freely confess to not understanding why I phrased it the way I did. I do know I wouldn't have been making something up but not sure where I got the phrasing. if I had to guess, it's from the fact that he is able to perceive the implicate order, as he also demonstrated). would his ability to view time differently allow him to perceive flash? maybe. as I said, I don't think it's an unreasonable line of thinking, especially given his own speed feats.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, I don't think Surfer's perception of time is any more different than other top tiers.

Originally posted by leonidas
really? all top tiers can see past and future simultaneously?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Surfer can? Do post scans.

https://imgur.com/4HEi9ej

Yeah, I think the words are Surfer can watch past/present/future, but I don't remember any scans state Surfer can exist past/present/future simultaneously

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Yeah, I think the words are Surfer can watch past/present/future, but I don't remember any scans state Surfer can exist past/present/future simultaneously

And there's the quantum field scan. Perceiving the world from a timeless realm or something like that.

Originally posted by Smurph
yeah I think Leo's post was referring to this http://i.imgur.com/uTVtcJd.jpg

Originally posted by Smurph
https://imgur.com/4HEi9ej

Talk is cheap.

Originally posted by Smurph
yeah I think Leo's post was referring to this http://i.imgur.com/uTVtcJd.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
Should have seen past, present and future to avoid getting his ass kicked by Tempus one issue later.

Talk is cheap.

anyways, you were wrong about this:

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, I don't think Surfer's perception of time is any more different than other top tiers.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He's in a different dimension where all time converges. Just like phantom zone.

Did he access that zone under his own power?

Originally posted by abhilegend
He's in a different dimension where all time converges. Just like phantom zone.

there's also the quantum field view https://imgur.com/B1IIOU7

Viewing the universe from a timeless realm

Originally posted by Smurph
lol but.. imagine if we applied this standard to Flashes?

anyways, you were wrong about this:

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Did he access that zone under his own power?

Originally posted by Smurph
yeah I just said that I thought it was what Leo was referring to

there's also the quantum field view https://imgur.com/B1IIOU7

Viewing the universe from a timeless realm

Surfer is hardly unique in the regard.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He had to physically go there.
Superman can also access quantum field. So can several top tiers like Captain Atom and whatnot.

Surfer is hardly unique in the regard.

Under his own power?

Yes

Originally posted by abhilegend
One throwaway statement from Surfer in one issue doesn't change his 60+ years of canon when he has never shown this ability before or after or even in the same miniseries.

But also Surfer has shown it multiple times. The quantum field is one example. Or the scan where he says something about the universe imposing a chronological view but if you see it like he does you can see the recent past... whatever it was.

You can quibble if you want about how precise his perceptions are but "he perceives time differently" is merely true. I'm not even arguing that he wins this thread, I just think your double standard is dumb.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What speed feats if I may ask.

😂

you may not.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He had to physically go there.
Superman can also access quantum field. So can several top tiers like Captain Atom and whatnot.

Surfer is hardly unique in the regard.

Captain Atom, whose entire powerset is tied to the quantum field.

"Nbd if Captain Atom can do it" lol jfc

Originally posted by Smurph
yeah I think Leo's post was referring to this http://i.imgur.com/uTVtcJd.jpg

YES!! lol thanks man. my image folder has long since died but yep.

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